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Week 3 Little Black Dress Low Carb Bootcamp - or Bootcamp Light!

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BigBroomstickBIWI · 15/10/2012 08:59

Morning all!

Hopefully everyone has had a good couple of strict weeks, and the scales have rewarded you.

[[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmNIskihgXotdFVPcF9zWUhIal9BbTl5SnlTM3BlWVE#gid=0 Here is the link to the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness. Enter your weight for today if you haven't already.

We're now ready to move on to Bootcamp Light - if you wish. If you're happy to stay on Bootcamp, then that's fine. Or, perhaps you want to do the hybrid of Bootcamp during the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend?

Whatever, here are the rules of Bootcamp Light:

1. Eat when you?re hungry - if you?re not hungry, don?t eat
In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you?re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don?t force yourself to eat. But don?t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs.
You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don?t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it ? this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more ? compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy
You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn?t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you?ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this ? but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
Even if you?re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product ? so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you?re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol
But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you?re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit
"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please ? only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information ? these are the carb counts:

Rhubarb ? 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don?t forget you will need to sweeten this ? and not with sugar!)
Blackberries ? 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries ? 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries ? 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds
"Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs. Sainsbury?s sell little bags of roasted, salted Macadamias that work out at around 4g per bag.

Here are some carb counts ? BUT ? check the back of your packets as I don?t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners
The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us ? and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable ? occasionally ? to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

Good luck for the forthcoming week!

OP posts:
Poppy1234 · 15/10/2012 14:55

Congratulations to everyone on all the fabulous losses. I can't update the spreadsheet from my iPad so will grab my laptop later.

B: 2 boiled eggs mashed with butter
L: leftover roast chicken and mayo with salad
D: Slow braised beef stroganoff with green beans

My new recommendation for this week is flavoured salt, I've been using smoked salt for a while but tried chilli salt today and it really helped with the flavour of my chicken salad.

Boobz · 15/10/2012 15:33

Well done everyone.

PrincessSparkle86 · 15/10/2012 16:05

Afternoon all...

Bootcamp light for me now :D , will be interested to see how much of things my body allows before it starts to gain weight, this'll be the tricky part!

well done to all the losers!

noddyholder · 15/10/2012 16:34

I have done well today!
2 fried eggs for breakfast
Tuna salad for lunch
Chicken fillet and veg for dinner
Have had a decaf coffee (sorry)

noddyholder · 15/10/2012 16:34

poppy where do you buy the salts? Sounds great

halfthesize · 15/10/2012 16:59

Well done everyone with your weigh ins.

vnmum that dress is gorgeous and very sexyWink

I have been to the gym today, had mushroom omelette for lunch and just trying to decide on dinnerConfused

Drank before I realised what Id done this morning so will weigh in tomorrowSmile

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney · 15/10/2012 17:03

biwi and notagainandagain thanks Thanks I just need perspective!

I do feel better on this woe, I def have more energy to run around with Ds which is lovely. I think I may even see the hint of a waist appearing again.....

FatOnTheInside · 15/10/2012 17:08

Well done everyone, great losses!
Just wanted to ask what is DTWLFM?

NewStartSameStory · 15/10/2012 17:15

Decaff tea with lactose free milk (DTWLFM)

TheHumancatapult · 15/10/2012 17:16

Vnmum

I love those dresses I may found my inspiration dress tyvm . Not for Xmas but for next year sometime but I like the green as in a redhead

Will just need to find somewhere to wear it oh and to shift the rest of this weight

NewStartSameStory · 15/10/2012 17:20

I think i am on my 6th or 7th cup of coffee today Blush Hmm I can guarentee as a result sleep is going to be an issue. However, been thinking and whilst BIWI told me off for claiming a yoghurt for lunch I think i need to tweak my thinking down about what is classed as a meal for me. It was what pushed me over the edge into i am failing what is the point kinda mode. So I am planning on eating at meal times, snacking as needed and meals to be of what ever size they happen to be for a few weeks to get over the I don't eat meals like a normal person thing. It was a jump too far.

B:2 eggs scrambled with some alpro cream and fried with butter
L: Lettice, raddishes, celery and egg mayo.
T: is going to be more eggs and salad but today is an odd day meals wise.

Need to plan ahead for tomo but will do that later when ds is in bed. He is having a rough start to the week and it is a tad lively Hmm around here atm. Roll on bedtime.

toomuchmonthatendofthemoney · 15/10/2012 18:04

I have celeriac and baby cabbage!!!

DH found them in a shop near his work (my village shop hasnt moved past the idea of a veg section being onions, potatoes and carrots. I think they would deem peppers as furrign dangerous muck).

I will look on the recipe thread later but any quick ideas would be great, thanks! I assume celeriac you can mash like tatties or swede?
I have heard talk of braised cabbage, how?

AuntieMaggie · 15/10/2012 18:06

bfast: a couple of mouthfuls of yogurt
lunch: feta, black olives, cucumber and tomatoes
dinner: pork stroganoff with brocolli and cauliflower (I wanted to try cauliflower rice but DP cooked it all yesterday so I've got leftover veg!)

Best bit is I have leftover stroganoff for lunch tomorrow - yay :)

WineGless · 15/10/2012 18:22

Xmas donation thread

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Right hijack over!

B: Greek yoghurt
L: dreamy creamy spinach soup (yum)
D: salmon broccoli and cauliflower with cheesy sauce.

Bit dairy heavy today.

I couldn't weigh in as left mega early for work

NewStartSameStory · 15/10/2012 18:30

Hmm minor memory outage on that food thingy:
Breakfast should have included a yoghurt
Snacks were chunk of cheese and another yoghurt.

Water about 2 ltrs drunk and working on the last ltr

BigBroomstickBIWI · 15/10/2012 18:39

Oh Sad the Mumsnet Academy day with Dr Briffa isn't going ahead as not enough people have signed up. What a shame. They are trying to organise another date, but if this one wasn't going to fill up I wonder if another one would as well?

Today:

B - yoghurt + vanilla
L (out with friends) cream of celeriac soup with ceps and chives (it was absolutely lovely, but I suspect from the texture that it had potato in it as well), roast pork belly with black pudding (only ate a little bit of this), pancetta and potato gratin (only ate two mouthfuls of this, although it was lush!), spinach and butternut squash puree
D - will be spicy beef stew (beef, shallots, garlic, chilli, fennel, peppers and tinned tomatoes) with mashed celeriac

OP posts:
MrsHerculePoirot · 15/10/2012 18:51

Woohoo 3 lbs down!

EwanHoozami · 15/10/2012 18:52

Oh BIWI what a shame! I would have gone to that had I been in the vague vicinity.

B: boiled eggs with asparagus to dip
L: Turkey salad with mayo
D: spinach, courgette and bacon crustless quiche

Thanks folks who shared their wonky cycle stories. It's stopped me panicking too much. We do not need this to turn into a POAS thread Confused

EwanHoozami · 15/10/2012 18:54

PS - someone asked for the cream cheese pancake recipe

Doshusallie · 15/10/2012 19:09

Braised cabbage. divine.

Doshusallie · 15/10/2012 19:12

Dh is making curried veg to go with our chicken thighs. He offered to cook. He asked me if I wanted to keep the sandwich bag. He volunteered to take DS1 to cubs, and pick him up. I suspect this is him making up for doing absolutely FUCK ALL yesterday. Ahem.

Had to have a snack when I got in, so it was two slices of ham and a chunk of cheddar. Which is annoying as I am trying to lay off dairy, but we literally have no food in the house. Big shop at lidl planned for tomorrow. Will have to have yoghurt for brekkie too.

Well done Mrs HP!

Doshusallie · 15/10/2012 19:14

BIWI don't be so sure the soup had potato in it, soups can be unbelievably creamy on their own can't they...like cauliflower for eg.

WillieWaggledagger · 15/10/2012 19:19

Roasted salmon with salad and mayo for supper

Must clean house now...

noddyholder · 15/10/2012 19:30

Without mayo this would be impossible!

tempertemper · 15/10/2012 19:55

Evening. Congratulations all on the losses! Excellent work.

I have been a bit snacky today. All went a bit wrong with a late lunch but given ny carb cravings, I am mainly happy I didn't eat the toast and sweets I was craving!

B: total and a few berries, flaxseed
L: mushroom soup.
Snack session: slice cheese. Leftover chicken slice. Leftover veg gratin - tablespoon full. Mini bar dark choc 85 percent.
D: leftover Thai prawn curry with cauliu rice. 3 frozen cherries with double cream.

The snack happened because the mushroom soup didn't even slightly fill me up so came home from work ravenous, and only ten minutes to eat before going to school. Hence mad plundering of the fridge!

Ah well....tomorrow is another day. Feel all bloaty now.

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