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Bootcamp Week 8 - BIWI's AWOL but we're still going down

182 replies

FiddleDeFat · 04/06/2012 07:50

New chat thread for the week.
Old thread here.

Weigh-in thread here.

OP posts:
BIWItheBold · 07/06/2012 13:10

My trainer is exactly the opposite and advocates eating before the gym!

But he's also a low carb advocate, and I guess this just reflects how much things have changed in the last 5 years.

vnmum · 07/06/2012 13:11

I always exercise fasted and I generally won't eat a meal until the evening after a morning workout. I will sometimes have a protein shake after the gym depending on what type of workout I've done. I feel fine doing this and it has helped my body composition and look alot in a short space of time. I do agree with the caffeine beforehand, it gives you a boost and I find I can push harder aswell.

BIWI I had the same goal as you, 9st, but I too am going to see what I feel at 9st 7 (whenever I get there Smile) because of the gym work. My body looks totally different now to how I was at a similar weight without working out. My trainer at the gym also said I'd be lucky to lose another stone and that I looked fine as I was. I told her I wanted to see the muscle definition I was slogging it out at the gym for and she said not to get hung up on the toned images we see on screen and mags as they are not necessarily healthy. A woman is meant to have some body fat and those with really low body fat will have problems with periods etc and risk infertility and osteoporosis.
I get her point but I know I could lose some more fat, my scales have me at just over 28% iirc, and I would like to get it down to 25%.

WillieWaggledagger · 07/06/2012 13:22

that's really interesting re caffeine, might consider trying that, though i'm wary of reintroducing caffeine after giving it up four months ago

nigella - i don't go that far any more except from time to time. actually, shred is much harder i reckon (for me, anyway) - running is relaxing in comparison!

PostBellumBugsy · 07/06/2012 14:01

Just a thought here, stimulted by my low-carb god, Gary Taubes. He says that eating low carb is like correcting past wrongs. According to him, low carb is what the human body is designed for. He says that eating low carb our bodies will release fat that we have been storing incorrectly (through eating carbs) but that we may never be as slim as we want to be. He writes about bodies having a balance point, possibly an ideal weight & it may not be the weight that we want!!! If you think about wild animals, even with unlimited natural food resources, you don't see them either fat or skinny - they have a balance weight - which will be slightly different for each animal.

I just make this point, because sometimes I wonder if our striving for a particular goal - like 9 stone or 10st 7lb or whatever is unrealistic. Why that particular weight? Why not 9st2.5lb? or 10st13lb? We tend to aim for a round number and that simply may not be where our body was designed to be & therefore it will always be an impossible goal to stay there.

My weight loss has slowed right down to a half pound off every couple of weeks. But, and this always surprises me with low-carb, my clothes continue to get looser. So something is continuing to change with my body composition. Nobody knows what I weigh - but everyone can see what I look like. To me that is more important. I have a vague weight goal, which I'm still about 5lbs off reaching - but actually I care far more what I look like than the lbs on the scale.

Long ramble - not sure how much sense it makes!

MmeLindor. · 07/06/2012 14:06

When I was a regular gym goer, I used to eat a light breakfast and have an espresso before gym. It is supposed to help burn calories, or something. Cannot remember the science of it.

Signed up for the gym weeks ago and haven't had time to go yet. Not getting up at 6am to do that. Sorry BIWI.

Down to my pre-London weight and keen to lose a bit more in the next week. I get back from Kenya then am off to Germany for the summer. The woman who lives downstairs has some kind of exercise thing, where you attack electric pads to your body while you work out. She is v toned, and said it doubles the effectiveness of your workout. Am going to try it out.

GreenEyesAndHam · 07/06/2012 14:14

Hmmm food for thought PBB...

Re caffeine, I also gave it up at the start of bootcamp/ phase 1 and don't particularly want to reintroduce it. I'll see how I go

jan2011 · 07/06/2012 15:55

get what you mean about the set weight point. thats what ive heard. if you go below that point, your body will crave food until it reaches where it wants to be, so you will struggle with overeating. if you go over that point, you will find it easier to lose weight as your body will not hold on to the calories. but i think to those of us (me) who have mucked up our metabolism through dieting, it takes awhile of eating normally, without strict dieting (the 500 cal a day diets!) and without overeating at times, for the body to become stable (ie know there is not going to be a famine or vice versa) and then take some time to adjust to the set point. then it becomes easy to maintain the set point - provided its a realistic one! i think it depends what weight you were in your teens, your natural bone structure etc. i think mine is around 135-140lb.

jan2011 · 07/06/2012 15:56

sorry didn't mean teens meant early twenties after everythings fully developed!!

MNP · 07/06/2012 16:41

Catching up.....been on a 4 day fishing jaunt to Alderney.

Was mostly good and will weigh in on Monday.

Well done.

Thegoddessblossom · 07/06/2012 17:11

I agree with the natural weight theory. I can be lighter - if I choose to an extremely strict diet. But I refuse to deny myself foods/living. Low carbing I find it much easier to stay at a typical weight for me that allows me to look how I want and wear what I want, and that is 9.3. And that's not skinny, I am only 5 foot 3 and a half.

Having said that I haven't dare weigh myself since the debauchery of the weekend. Might dare tomorrow, gulp.

Thegoddessblossom · 07/06/2012 17:53

Ok help please.

I have to take tea with me for 5 adults and 2 children, to an event at my Dad's house where he offered to house it if I cook.

Puds ok as I don't eat them and they don't have to be low carb but what on earth can I make for the main, that is transportable and that all can eat? I thought the celeriac shepherds pie, but can't garantee they will all like celeriac...

Any ideas? Needs to be a make in advance dish for 7 that I can easily carry over in the car.....

heartstart · 07/06/2012 22:03

Moussaka with cheese,s cream, Greek yog topping

Creamtea1 · 07/06/2012 22:14

Checking in as back from a weeks hol. And 2lb down!! Now 9st 10 lb. was in shock, had to weigh at least 20 times.
Read the taubes book (why we get fat etc) cover to cover at least twice while on hol - maybe it motivated me lol! Ate low carb but still had hol treats like ice cream x1, odd few tortilla chips, Magdalena cakes, errm yes..did have period while away so maybe that helped.

puffylovett · 07/06/2012 22:47

Evening ladies :) Wow you're all going great guns with exercise. I'm only just getting back in to mine following a torn calf muscle 10 weeks ago :( back to ballet and yoga after hols, can't wait.

I read somewhere (marks daily apple?) that IF and exercising on an empty stomach can help desensitise cell receptors if you're insulin resistant. It worries me though as AFAIK exercising on an empty stomach is basically relying on your adrenals to kick in and release cortisol to get your blood sugar up to give you energy to work out. I'm already working with mild adrenal fatigue so I'm not sure if that would be sensible for me. But, is there the same blood glucose release on low carb, if you're relying on fat as an energy source? Am I making sense? Anybody got any thoughts?

puffylovett · 07/06/2012 22:49

Thegoddessblossom - curry or chilli? Normal rice for them and cauli rice for you?

heartstart · 07/06/2012 22:49

Good for you cream tea.

Today

B trout and pepper with sour cream and chive
L smoked mackerel, egg mayo and salad
D pulled pork coleslaw lettuvce and mushrooms

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SharonGless · 08/06/2012 08:53

Wel done cream tea- 2lbs off on holiday? Amazing!

BIWItheBold · 08/06/2012 08:58

Brilliant, creamtea! Most women apparently gain an average of 7lbs on holiday, so to come back weighing less is a real achievement!

SharonGless · 08/06/2012 09:08

Just had a disaster am going to a wedding tomorrow and had treated myself to a gorgeous Mary Portas dress which was in the sale. Bloody courier have lost it and I had paid for next day delivery- grr

BIWItheBold · 08/06/2012 09:13

Oh no! What are they going to do about it? They must have a tracking number/be able to track it down, surely?

SharonGless · 08/06/2012 09:33

Well it left Milton Keynes but hasn't arrived in Manchester therefore it won't bel delivered until Monday! Just been on to the lovely Customer Service dept at House of Fraser who have ordered another dress which I can collect from my nearest store in the morning! Postage refunded but just a pain h e proverbial. link

BIWItheBold · 08/06/2012 09:37

Oooh - I like that! Lovely colour too.

Hooray for HoF.

SharonGless · 08/06/2012 09:40

Just sent an email to their customer service dept singing their praises! UK mail however Angry

smokinaces · 08/06/2012 09:57

Sharon that dress is gorgeous.

I have finally started feeling a bit smaller. I am hoping to be a stone down Monday, and my skinny jeans all fit well, my waist is more defined, I am now edging towards a smaller size 12. I caught a glimpse of myself in a thick waisted belt the other day and I looked slimmish. Without clothes I still dislike my midrift so am going to keep going. I'm doing average of 1lb a week but hopefully this means I can hit the 10st mark by my birthday in august.

smokinaces · 08/06/2012 09:58

Oh and my mum who has hated these kinds of diets has seen how much I eat and the change in me and begrudgingly agreed it obviously suits me.