2011 Paul McKenna part two - our final diet

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Welcome etc. blah blah. :)

Nice threadage wmmc :)

Thanks etc blah

Leverkausen I think it's important to read the book as well as listen to the CD otherwise some people tend to view the CD as an aid to their dieting, and think listening to it will help them be 'good' and 'stick to their diet' but if you read the book you realise that it's actually a totally the opposite philosophy to this.

Hope that's helpful.

Sorry all, I've feel like Ive barged into your ongoing thread tonight and dished out lots of unwanted advise.

I'm just over excited and enthusiastic about saturady I think. .

Haha I think we needed the enthusiasm Mordechai :)

Thanks mordechai!
Yes will stick to the book too, I'm waiting for it to be delivered although have read the four golden rules online on PM's website. Book should come tomorrow... I hope!

Am trying not to view the whole thing as a diet, I want to change my relationship with food. But I saw my big fat self today and thought... I could just nip on WW and lose this! But that won't help the way I view food.

Is he still selling that "snake oil" the twunt

How bizarre.

Leverkusen - WW is such a faff though, it's all about counting. I don't know about you but I have no intention living my entire life counting up how many things I have eaten. I am a gold lifetime member with weightwatchers, got to my goal weight, stayed there just long enough to get the gold card and then it all came back because I was very resistant to being told I was clearly unable to control myself and should stick to a certain number of points worth of food like hunger is a form of maths.

And did you do the thing where you ate a whole pan of vegetables because they were free

Hideousness.

This is much better. :)

Haha!

Ooh I think you're right wmmc, the big 'diet companies' say pay us £5 a week and we will keep control for you. I need to not even have a control issue, not even to think twice about food. I have been thinking I am on another diet I reckon, and double thinking 'ooh, let's cheat!'

Am excited to hear what happens on saturday.

Or worse, they label foods sins. It's not a sin FFS, it's a fairy cake. If you want to eat it, eat it. No-one cares, there is very little nutritional different between one food and another. Just eat the fricking cake if that's what you want. Your only decisions should be: 'am I hungry' and 'what do I want to eat'. Makes me quite cross actually the way foods are labelled as having virtues. No food is bad in moderation anyway.

But we are conned again and again. Eat this low fat crappy tasting thing so you can have more of it

Eat this and it'll make you popular, or pretty or even have a healthy gut - it's all bollocks, all of it.

Suffice to say I am still premenstrual and slightly tetchy

I am a natural rebel too. That really is the beauty of Paul m's weight loss plan. There isn't much to rebel from.

So true wwmc, when I did WW I would eat like, a whole fucking swede and a courgette and all sorts of really stodgy veg, just get them all down me and eat masses and masses of sugar free jelly. Or then I would eat a horrible ready meal packed full of additives because it only had 5 points or whatever.
But that isn't right is it, why would I eat so much? WHy wouldn't I just eat when I was hungry?

The syn thing on SW has been SO bad for my psychological relationship with food, along with the 'free food' concept.

WW is really a 'shit yourself thin' thing isn't it?

checking in.

Welcome nevergoogle :)

I have a sick little boy propped up on the sofa with a vapouriser blowing steam into his face to help him breathe and he's given me pinkeye by poking me with his diseased little fingers

Think I might have to relocate him in a bit, my leg has gone to sleep where he's leaning on me.

oh dear.
hope you get some sleep tonight.
don't envy you at all, we've just got over a bad run of bugs. not fun.

Hello all
Just back from (my talented - sorry boasting) DD's gig night at school and catching up.

First of all - I am the old lady of the group - 45 this year which is hitting me a lot harder than 40. Shit, that's over half way for most people unless you are my lovely nan who's still going at 104 (secret = wartime diet, genuinely doesn't like chocolate, not that keen on alcohol, never smoked, eats like a horse and REALLY ENJOYS HER FOOD but never seen her pig out and loads of positive attitude).

Off to catch up with the rest of the thread - will be back.

"And did you do the thing where you ate a whole pan of vegetables because they were free"

Yes, that fucking WW butternut squash soup where you pan roast them with virtually no oil. It almost tastes right but ultimately it's shit really. My epiphany was the choice between a gorgeous avocado costing mega WW points and a crappy WW meal full of additive carp. No contest

Sorry crap not carp

Re: bathroom scales. Still struggling with them. Need to ask DH to take them away. As I'm doing OK at the moment, it's gratifying to see my weight coming down at the moment. However, it's also equally satisfying to wake up in the morning and thing: "Hang on, that wobbly bit feels less wobbly today" or "I think my calves are getting thinner"

I'm talking to myself aren't I?!

Re: counting backwards - I tend to do this although my mind does drift. I've found it helps to think of a keypad otherwise I get lost and forget where I am in the countdown. I aim to get to about 200-210 when he says "imagine yourself....." at which point I sometimes just drift off until "wake up now" and sometimes am half awake trying to do the visualisations.