Mounjaro starters Nov ‘24 Thread 15 - the one where we wear ALL of the party dresses and are happily in ALL of the festive photos 🎄🥳

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Welcome to thread 15!
Link to our last thread here:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight-loss-injections/5415910-mounjaro-starters-nov-24-thread-14-the-one-where-for-the-first-time-all-of-our-winter-coats-do-up?page=40

Feel free to lurk or post, absolutely no judgement here, just support and encouragement as we hurtle towards Christmas proudly wearing Crimbo jumpers without fear of looking enormous, look for slinky party dresses on vinted and for the first time, willingly take part in ALL of the festive photos🥰

Join us here to celebrate NSV’s, weight loss milestones, maintenance and new stone brackets!
I’m on W55 D2 and on w6 (and final dose) of 3.75mg before moving onto 2.5mg.
F in my early 50’s
H 5’ 5.5”
SW 13st 11lb
CW 9st 6.8lbs
GW 9st 0lb
Total loss so far 61.0 lbs (at 9st 6.0)
We recommend the Shotsy app to monitor the amount of MJ in the system and pleasing graphs to look at…plus the MeThreeSixty body scan app to monitor inch loss for the weeks where weight loss is slow but you might have lost body fat etc. Both are free.
Feel free to swap recipes that might inspire anyone in a food rut, tips for managing side effects, exercise tips, tips for maintenance, titrating up or down and we love a wellness/supplements/beauty/ style chat too 🤗

@Goldleafcat I get that completely! I’m 36kg down and it was like an Olympic weightlifting event to get a 23kg suitcase downstairs recently 🏋️‍♀️…..let alone a 10kg carry on as well. I often wonder how my 62 year old body didn’t give up completely under the strain.

I need to be titrating down from 15mg but I’m really struggling to trust that I can maintain on a lower dose. It’s really helpful to read everyone’s experiences and although I don’t post much I’m grateful to learn how you’re all doing 😊

Wondering if there are many others here on 15mg? I've been reluctant to move up from 10/12.5mg as it feels like then there's nowhere to go (and it's so expensive).

Given my 3 month plateau a pharmacist would probably recommend it, although I did lose my first lb in 3 months this morning, so that's something!

I was up to 15mg on May 31st. I was 11st 13lb that day. I came down to 12.5 to start titrating down Saturday just gone, but in the 7 months I was at 15 I lost exactly 2.5st. I chose not to maintain an exact TDEE -500 deficit because I didn't want to drop below 1100 calories a day; it didn't feel safe. According to the Shotsy app, I lost the greatest proportion of weight on 2.5 and 5, but there was a lot more of me to lose proportionally back then so that makes sense.

I bought the same one last year. Filled it up on my lap whilst watching telly, struggled to get up with the weight and DH had to remove it from me 😂 take a tip, fill it up away from your person 🤣

Totally agree with the weight - a real eye opener for me too.

I think we’ve all struggled when titrating down, it is hard, but I’ve accepted that I can’t out train a bad diet so I focus on that first and foremost. You can do it, focus on protein for satiety and keep hydrated. Low carb works best for me. 💪

Have you got much more to lose? A lb off on any week is fantastic and it has just been Christmas…

Ah yes, same, no worrying about which colour goes with which. And likewise, I don’t think it ever flattered my facial features as much. Though I still like black bottom halves and shoes for their versatility. It’s hard to wear white trousers without getting them stained or them being see-through. Also tried a beautiful eye wateringly expensive designer skirt in white the other day and while conceptually it looked nice, it shows things like panty lines or tights so much more.

Any tips from anyone on how to nail white/ cream/ ballet pink skirts and trousers?

My colour analyst says that your range of colours becomes much wider once you get a tan, so perhaps cream/ecru in the summer for you?

Have just packed for a weekend away and 4/6 outfits are predominantly white/cream!

For me it was when I realised I'd lost more than my 8 year old niece - who I can barely lift for cuddles now - weighs. Fuck know why fat people get called lazy when we are putting such a shift in just moving our own bodies around.

Another day, another published study on WLIs which gives no actual advice as to the safety of actually staying on them (as far as the published excerpts state). Very frustrating for a lot of us really. Obviously there will be plenty in the study of 10,000 who choose to scarf down a Maccy D’s and still lose weight just as there are plenty like us on this thread who have overhauled everything in their diet and exercise regime - so no shit Sherlock that the weight went straight back on for some. There will also be some who jump on the bandwagon taking WLIs with zero research and some aligned with us who took a while to decide if it was right for us. What we actually need is a meaningful study of a similar size from an independent (non pharmacological business) source featuring participants who do not have a diabetic condition to start with. Then the BMJ can actually say with certainty that it is safe to stay on WLI in perpetuity… sadly it’s doubtful we’ll see that sort of survey as in whose interest is it to fund one?

Rant over… it’s also possible I’m just fucked off this morning because my heating is on the blink again and DH has had two nights in a lovely hotel with work 😩😩😩😩

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/article/weight-loss-jabs-drugs-review-rd236d2m0

I have got rid of so much black stuff since starting MJ. I love being able to wear more colour without looking like a giant Neapolitan ice cream or similar. I thought black was slimming with my size 20 frame and would never have dreamt of wearing light colour. I just love having colour options now and not wearing tents

For me it was when I got a big bag of sunflower hearts for bird feeder 20kg which is about 3 stone and about my weight loss at the time. I struggled to get it down to the garden shed. I really had no idea what a stone felt like in terms of carrying so it was a real eye opener.. I will soon be almost double that (fingers crossed crossed).

I’m on 15mg! I moved up because I found I was doing a lot of the heavy lifting rather than MJ. Sometimes I’ve felt the suppression may be a tad too much but not had that for quite a while now so I’ve adjusted to it well. However my next few pens I’ve ordered are 12.5mg with a view to titration down over time (as I get closer to my stretch stretch goal!). Hope it’s not a mistake… I guess I can move back up though.

Unexpected NSV. Our road is literally a sheet of invisible black ice. Myself, DS, a neighbour and their DC all left the house at the same time and we all fell over! Nightmare.

All ok thank goodness.
However, my tumble was so much more gentle than similar falls have been in the past. Probably because there was 6 stone less of me!

I read that too. All the study does is to give ammo to the wli haters. This is the sort of shit why only my DH and DD know. The study hasn’t really given us anything new.

They need to do one on a group who have made a determined effort to change their lifestyle. I don’t know, maybe a group of mnetters from across 2024 might be a good start.

At some point I will start coming down slowly and may well need a low dose to keep me on top of everything.

I fractured my a small bone in the wrist a few years ago when I fell which all my weight going onto that wrist to protect me. I was carrying too much stuff down the stairs - silly I know.

My second recent fall was when I was out running with the club recently in the dark and I tripped over a root. The only thing that hurt was my pride but I was back up like a gymnast and continued running, there’s no way I could have done that in Nov 24 let alone run

This is a great NSV!

Thanks for the 15mg testimonials, that's helpful. I've lost 3st and am just hovering on the top of the BMI healthy band, so would like to lose more, but less urgently.

I've always worn colour but have little that's white or pale and plain, simply because I always seem to stain it immediately.

My main wardrobe shift is from dresses to trousers. I've never worn trousers aside from jeans as I'm short and they just didn't suit me, so this is all new. I have just ordered a couple of the Joanie x Christina Hendricks dresses in the sale as my figure is very much like hers (but shorter!), so I'll see how I feel about floral dresses once they arrive. I'm usually a geometric/abstract print person rather than a floral person, but they are very pretty. I've optimistically ordered size 10s thinking about spring/summer, even though I've never been a 10 in my life.

I’m hoping someone can help me out…..

At the very beginning, November 24, I told someone I was on MJ. Let’s call her Fiona.
Fiona is very clever, has a senior position with a lot of responsibility. I have known her for approx 25 years.

6 months later, April 25, Fiona messaged me to ask me where I got my MJ from. She ordered and we have been weekly check in buddies ever since.
I have know idea what her staring weight was, but she certainly didn’t look as heavy as me. Moving on, she has lost 6 stone.

Fiona has managed to gather a stash of pens so hasn’t actually ordered from a company since the price hike, so the company she has used are unaware of her current weight.

However, I think we have a wee problem and I don’t know how to support her.

Fiona’s husband, family and colleagues are asking her to stop losing weight. I saw her before Christmas and I personally don’t think she looks like she needs to lose any more but I haven’t commented.

When I saw her before Christmas, she got upset and was able to acknowledged that when she looks in the mirror she still sees her former fat self and she wishes everyone telling her to stop/slow the weight loss would STFU.

We agreed we would not check in until today, giving us the opportunity to enjoy Christmas & NY and then get back on it.
This morning she has messaged with an update. She is not in a good place mentally, but I don’t believe she has an awareness of how she is presenting herself. I actually think she now has the mindset comparable to someone with an eating disorder. Thinking she is fat when she is anything but.

I made some suggestions to her, but I know from her reply she is not on board.

She is very much a reader, does anyone know of any therapeutic books/articles they can recommended that she reads which may help with her mindset.

Thanks for reading if you got this far, my weekly update is 1lb off.

What a nightmare, @lovealongbath
. EDs are really difficult territory. I am not sure how you would approach an adult with one. My cousin struggled with anorexia for many years from her mid-teens onwards and has been in recovery for over a decade, but even now when she gets stressed she gets thinner, and needs to keep on top of it.

Do you know if Fiona has a past history with EDs (so someone in the family may already have experience/insight on intervening with her), or is this a new development? If the latter, there may be a stress point elsewhere that’s making her feel like controlling her body will help control a scarier situation. Would it be worth seeing if that could be identified, so she could get support with that and stop trying to manage her body as a proxy?

I’m sorry I don’t have any articles to hand. IME the anorexic mindset isn’t very rational and open to direct logical arguments. Finding the thing that’s causing the control focus can help, and if your friend is a high achiever even admitting she’s unhappy - especially with something she’s possibly fought for - can be really hard.

@RayonSunrise

I don’t believe there is any historical ED.

I do think there is a very small realisation that there could be a mental health issue and this frightened her and caused her to get upset.

I suggested to her this morning that she should maybe think about maintaining, but no, she is adamant she has more weight to lose and she has set a target to lose it of 6 weeks. All along, she has set targets and met them. She puts herself under a fair bit of pressure in order to meet these targets.

Oh gosh that's tough. It sounds like there could be a sort of orthorexia there as much as anorexia, creating rules and timelines. At uni I lived with very anorexic housemate and an orthorexic one and both were tough in different ways.
It does sound like she's aware it's tipping into a bad place for her though, which is good. Do to think she'd be open to any reading suggestions or to discussing her MH with you?
I do think there's a lot of potential for WLI to trigger eating disorders, sadly. It's one of the reasons it's frustrating when people do the whole oh you shouldn't lose any more/ you're wasting away when people are still at an overweight weight, because it means genuine concern when someone drops to an unhealthily low weight can get lost.

😂….I thought the same over Christmas trying to lift 6 year old DGD for a group photo (in previous years I would have been behind the camera 😊).

We’re off on a long holiday next week and I’ve actually bought some travel scales to stay on track-ish. I know I can now be more mindful about what I’m choosing but I want to remain accountable. This would have been unheard of pre-MJ. I’m a little bit chuffed with myself!!

What a difficult situation to navigate as a pal. However you help and support her, I’m sure she will appreciate it. And sometimes you can only help someone as much as they want you to. It’s obvious how worried you are but look after yourself too.

@lovealongbath that sounds like a tricky situation to navigate. I honestly don’t know what I’d have done without this thread. The discussions we’ve had about BMIs, muscle mass, protein etc have been so valuable for me to be able to see things a bit more clearly.

I think for me I’d have been more likely to have stopped at a higher weight and listened more easily to those people saying I’m ‘too thin’ when I’m not. I’m a healthy BMI of 23 who could probably lose a bit more weight but I’m pretty happy with where I am currently.

I can totally see how easy it is to be addicted to the dopamine hit of seeing the scales move downwards and clothes sizes getting smaller. It’s good she’s talking to you about it and seems to be realising she might not be thinking healthily.

So I’m watching the Tim Spector series (love Tim, he changed my life!)

Something I’m finding interesting, and reading on here as well, is that people find healthy eating challenging because of the cooking time involved. Indeed, in the show, the recipes are quite elaborate and time consuming.

Personally I’m not sure why people trying to eat healthy are pushed so strongly towards cooking really complex (IMO) recipes.

My key to changing my lifestyle has been keeping meals really simple. Anything longer than 10 mins cooking is a long time for me on my current diet!

One of my fave meals is tuna steak. I make a quick side salad while it fries. Or steak, chicken, whatever, it’s usually a protein with some kind of salad or quick-cook veg like broccoli. Feta or mozzarella for extra protein.

Snacks are almost exclusively fruit. Or fruit in Greek yoghurt, fruit and chia in kefir etc. This can be breakfast too.

Talking of breakfast, that’s often an omelette, or eggs on sourdough.

I love how food tastes in its rawest form, I don’t necessarily love cooking or eating things like fish pie, chili con carne, risotto, quiche etc. It’s nice sometimes but I prefer the actual taste of ingredients on their own.

Does anyone else like to eat simply like that, and quick fresh meals only? Or am I the only weirdo? 🤣

I feel eating in the way I do hugely removes the ‘too complicated’ or ‘too time consuming’ excuse to avoid eating healthy.

I agree things such as chicken breast and salmon are quick and easy to do in the air fryer. My shopping baskets these days have lots of basic ingredients.

I have fallen back in love with other kitchen gadgets such as my Lakeland soup maker and the slow cooker has been busy this winter. Yesterday was the turn for a simple sticky date beef stew - delicious 😋 chop chop, chuck in and switch on - five hours later cook the rice - et voila 🍴