A calm and supportive thread to discuss the Price Increases: Mounjaro

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For anyone who would like a calmer place to share support and information about the price increases.

I was very concerned, not perfect but maybe I can manage.

Oooh many thanks

Trust my luck, I was just looking around for a new supplier when all this shitshow happened so just have 2 week’s worth left.

Lots of places not taking on new customers, nearly ordered from somewhere someone mentioned on the shouty thread but then fortunately someone else mentioned their terrible reviews.

I’m just ready to move up a dose too after 2 weeks at STS.

Monj sister site for Wegovy if anyone thinking of changing www.igovy.co.uk

I started by watching Dr Kevin Joseph’s YouTube videos. His approach is to find the lowest effective dose, rather than follow the manufacturer’s instructions to start at 2.5mg and jump up by the standard increases. We’re lucky with the Kwikpens as we can count clicks to achieve a partial dose. Interestingly a professor of metabolic medicine was talking about microdosing on BBC Women’s Hour recently, and how there is room for more flexibility with smaller doses, and research is now happening. I’ll try to find the link.

Thankyou

@JabbyJabber it was honestly coincidence. I had a moment where I thought I’m going to see how expensive Ozempic is and what it’s all about. My Dad had just had a heart attack and it scared me. I was just over 14 stone.

Mounjaro was just rolling out to very little fanfare. I did some reading and thought ok. I bet this won’t work.

Most of us did back then if I’m honest. There wasn’t even a weight loss board. Obsidian and a few others had a thread and I joined there. I still love reading it back as we were all in awe at this liquid willpower as we called it at the time. Hard to believe that was a year and half back.

I am eight and a half stone to eight ten now and have been for months.

Do you know how you would work out what your maintenence dose is?

I already posted this comment on the other thread, but it got lost in the noise. I think what people are forgetting, is that the price increases set by EL are the list price / cost to the supplier. The pharmacies themselves are at liberty to set a price to the customer that suits their business model. This is why some pharmacies have already raised their prices and some haven't and why the market was so differentiated on price in the first place. A lot of on line pharmacies have sprung up off the back of Mounjaro demand and are run by business owners who may not be the most commercially savvy or built on solid foundations, so are panicking about seeing the golden goose potentially being killed off. Eventually the dust will settle, with the larger pharmacies able to make their business model work on lower margin sales, by offering more competitive prices and attracting more customers. The smaller companies may well not be able to adapt in the same way. TLDR: Don't panic yet!

I’m hoping it will all calm down in a few weeks and we’ll know where we all stand.

@JabbyJabber this is the thread that started it all. 17th Feb 2024 I posted to say mine was arriving today and hey, can I come chat.. I may have a nostalgic reread.

can’t post it. Anyway. Go to the first thread on the weight loss sub. On page 97. Starting Mounjaro soon. For months we just had a taking MJ thread not month threads.

@OldMcDonaldHadABigMac trial and error. I took a lower dose and have gone up a bit. It’s finding a good level that keeps the noise down, but allows you to eat properly. Maintenance was actually a lot harder as losing was easy. Adding in exercise and muscle etc. I do get noise and properly hungry now, but I won’t increase MJ as I have to eat to fuel my body and I can’t do that on a higher dose.

Thanks for this thread, the other one was raising my heart rate every time I’d read it.

I hope price rises won’t be as much as expected,
although understandably it’s still going to price many out of using it. But in 12-18 months time when retatrutide comes out MJ will probably reduce in price (fingers crossed!)

I’m interested in micro dosing for maintenance as well. I’m 10lb from target so it’s coming fast now. I know in the US they have specific companies that sell micro dosed compounds as they’re cheaper. Something like that would be good as well.

I've been paying between £200-230 on juniper. So am dreading to see what they'll hike the price to

Does anyone know if its relatively easy to transfer to another place that is doing mj cheaper? Thanks

@OldMcDonaldHadABigMac yes, as @FlappyFish says it’s trial and error until you find a level where you are maintaining and not losing too much weight, or finding it hard to manage to stick to new habits.

They have got a page up, but you have to be signed in and click around to find it….
shame, thought we might have had an email like some other providers seem to have done. Guess this is all very sudden for them too.

It was Professor Naveed Sattar on BBC Radio Your and Yours, @India4.

He was talking about using very small doses and very small increments in the context of people who are super sensitive to the meds. But I think it’s relevant here as some people will be wanting to try to manage on the smallest possible dose now.

He addresses this particularly at 8 minutes in and again at 48 minutes:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002gfww?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

”It’s all about different doses for different people, start low, go slow, and we have to individualise for different people.”

@wizzywig it is easy to change suppliers, although clearly at the moment many are limiting existing stock to current customers. You just fill out their online form and give the asked for evidence of your current prescription, along with photos/video call depending on the pharmacy’s

Thank you @FlappyFish that’s really interesting. You were the pioneers 😂

I’ll have a look at the old threads. I’m interested as attitudes to WLI are fascinating, from people who hate or fear them and seem to despise anyone who uses them to people who say every few days “mj is fantastic isn’t it?” (me and DH). I consider myself quite a late adopter in most areas and very risk averse, but as soon as I started reading about mj on MN I was interested and once the cardiovascular benefits started to be reported it seemed a no brainer.

Congratulations on the weight loss, fabulous!

@wizzywig I haven’t ordered 2 pens from the same supplier and I’ve been on MJ since Feb. It’s super easy and you get them cheaper with the discount codes.

This might come to bite me in the bum now as I ordered a pen on Thursday with a new supplier and it hasn’t been approved yet. Although they’ve got my money!

I'd just had a pen delivery before news broke so have about 6 weeks worth and am avoiding stockpiling as its going to cause issues for people who are close to running out if stock is delayed or runs out - even though I get tempted I go away in a week so no chance it would arrive and it would be sat outside in the heat.

I'm hoping that the prices won't be too high but if they are I think I will likely have to stop.
Will there be issues me going from 5 to nothing?
I was hoping to get 1 more pen and then move down a dose for a final pen as people seemed to suggest slowly lowering it to get used to being off it.

I'm still almost 2 stone off my end goal but I only wanted to take it for 5-6 months max and the lack of food noise has helped me to focus more on portion size and exercise. It's a shame I hadn't started it earlier but mentally I wasn't in the right head space.

really appreciate your assistance.

May I ask a question as a supporter not user?
Friend asked me to sign apetition to urge company to reduce price.
It's a private company and demand is high. How is a petition going to make the company tell shareholders to reduce profit? I haven't signed. should I sign?

I heard Trump has made Monjaro increase price, some weird logic that American price will reduce, when actualy it's just supply & demand driving price...

Thus Trump won't achieve anything & I imagine the petition won't achieve anything. Am I wrong?

I’m on 12.5 and about to go up to 15 (so I can stay at 12.5 but get more out of the pen) and Numan have confirmed the higher dose will remain at the current cost for now. 12.5 will be £249 and 15 will be £299 but I have had a friend referral every single month so far and have a few stacked up so have been getting the £100 discount which will continue. So 15 will cost me £199. And will cost anyone using a referral code £199.

i have to say I feel less panicked now. I have 1.5 stone to lose so plan to go at it hard, lose the weight then titrate down before Numan put their prices up in the higher dose which I guess they will eventually.

@Iamthemoom is Numan a subscription and is it easy to cancel?
My friend gave me a referral code which might help when I order my next pen likely at the inflated prices, but i don't intend to be on it much longer so wouldn't want to end up stuck with a monthly charge.