Everyone just hates fat people

[mamabeeboo]

Yes I'm fat and yes I'm taking the WLI.

I've had it out with a friend of a friend during a catch up dinner yesterday and I'm fuming.

I've lost some weight and still have a good 5 or so stone more to go before I'm anywhere near the 'normal' BMI category. So no, I'm not wasting away or disappearing, or losing weight too fast.

The mistake I made was being honest about the jabs. But I stand by it, I think it's important to get healthy, regardless of how you do it, just get there.

ANYWAY, this person has suddenly decided to feel concerned for my health, now that the loss has become noticeable. With some silent nods from others about how you should 'just eat less and move more'. No shit is that what was supposed to do?!

A big discussion about:
just have willpower
just have smaller portions
do it the normal way, you don't know what you're putting into your body
it's not healthy
just put down the fork
it's about dicipline
it's not really losing weight though, is it (huhh??)
it's more rewarding to do it the normal way so you can feel achievement

It's gotten me thinking of how so many people just hate fat people. You want us to pay for being fat, to suffer at the gym doing workouts we don't like or can't do with joint pain and back pain etc. You want us to 'just have willpower' like it's that easy. You want us to try all the diets and fail so you can feel superior with your 'discipline' and that you 'look after your body'.

You hate the fact that these WLI have levelled the playing field.

I said all this yesterday and it became very frosty. These aren't my friends, I was there for the birthday girl, but I won't sit there and take it.

I'm posting because I'd love to hear what you might have heard when talking about WLI. (Or if anyone agrees with the above 🤔)

People still need to exercise if they take weight loss drugs, otherwise they will just make their situation worse over time. If they want to improve their body composition, they need to put the work in at the gym the same as they would if they were losing weight the traditional way.

It's gotten me thinking of how so many people just hate fat people.

No, no, no, no, no.

They hate other thin people. They preferred you fatter.

Is it just jealousy that you don't have access to them?

Presumably if no access it’s because not needed?

Yes, I agree with all of this.

You do realise that people have differing amounts of willpower and that it is badly impacted by stress, tiredness etc? Which of course also varies massively from person to person. Just like people have differing amounts of intelligence. Because people are different. If a child does badly at Maths, they might have been lazy and not listened to any of the lessons - or more likely they might struggle with the subject. Don’t you understand that humans are all different?

Lots of overweight people have a lifestyle that’s far from lazy. They work bloody hard and then grab something unhealthy and probably large when they are exhausted.

Premature menopause did it to me. I didn’t even know it was happening and I was focused on looking after my SEN child who was really struggling. Fat lazy bitch I am yes? I’m not on WLI anyway because I’m afraid of them. Not judging those who are. I know two people who are on them actually - one who is looking after a child with a serious amount of medical problems and one who has severe work stress taking over their life. Lazy lifestyle is a very ignorant generalisation to make. Did you get straight As in all your GCSEs and A Levels and do you have a first class degree? Because if not, someone may think you were lazy with your studying/work ethic just the way that you think fat people are lazy.

ridiculous.

I do agree. I used to be obese in school and was terribly bullied. As soon as I lost the weight and became slim, everyone wanted to be my friend.

Not just the bullies and kids but even strangers would treat my nicer when I was slim. That’s probably what’s kept the weight off. The fear of being treated differently again.

What really fucks me off with this is it’s assuming EVERYBODY has the same experience. Even if our pain thresholds were exactly the same it doesn’t account for all kind sod things like the hormones in your body due to a cute stress and anxiety which negate ‘happy’ hormones and are medically known to make the experience a LOT more painful. This is without taking into consideration past traumas etc. They should just go fuck themselves IMO.

Similar to women who have faster metabolisms and no medical conditions which impact weight not acknowledging this when they find it easier to lose weight than others. Utter twats.

I would agree with you there- but in the way that millions of people who think they need to go on the jab to lose weight actually don’t- if they were educated correctly and supported very well and daily / weekly.

Depends what you mean by food noise. If you mean constantly tempted by unhealthy and high calorie food like chocolate and ice cream then I'd say, yes, most are. Constantly wanting to binge on huge amounts of food? Then no.
And of course there are people who are effortlessly slim and mainly like healthy food, but I wouldn't think they are the majority.

Wow. What a batshit comment.

Some people are naturally slim, or tall, or pretty, or smart. What have they done to “earn” that?

Being slim isn’t a moral virtue. It’s luck of the draw, genetics plus environment plus impact of medical issues/ side effects of other drugs in some cases.

Do you view it as some kind of competition to be slim?!

Really messed up. This is about people’s health (and also reducing the largest cost to the NHS outside elderly care i.e. a huge chunk of our taxes). Why would you want people to suffer preventable health problems if there is a medicine that can help them and save money?

I say this as someone who’s never been over a size 8 except in pregnancy/ the few months post-partum.

Cheating?

When I read things saying people are nasty to overweight people and treat them differently to other people I used to think it must be imagined because of insecurity about it or exaggerated because surely no adult would actually behave that way but clearly such people do exist, yet you and a few others on this thread have proved I was wrong: clearly there are actual adults who behave like the nasty teenage girls who bullied me for being “skinny”.

Your comment is nuts, and bizarre and extremely spiteful.

This made me laugh but is absolutely spot on.

Ideally, yes. But we’re not all physically able to hit the gym (and before anyone starts, I’m not talking about weight-related unfitness, I’m talking about physical disabilities.)

You have unresolved issues.

In fact doctors have been tentatively saying they may help with other health conditions too. I had six stone to lose and managed it at the beginning with ozempic. It was a great help, but I only used it for a while as it was so expensive. I still watch what I eat and write down all food consumed. I also swim five times a week. However recently I stopped being so careful and have put on half a stone, which I am determined to lose, mostly because I am having reasonably major surgery soon. It is so easy to put the weight on and takes so long to lose. If the Wii help then go for it!

It’s jealousy that other things people dislike about their bodies and would like to change can’t be fixed by buying injections on the internet.

Nothing to do with hating fat people.

You see the jabs as cheating? Cheating who or what exactly?

If you have an easier way of doing something, wouldn't you want to do it? I'm assuming in that case you don't have a washing machine, or car or alarm clock or glasses or anything else that makes life eaiser for you?

I have 20/20 vision, so it's cheating when people wear glasses (or worse contacts because it's not obvious that you're visually impaired) because it's just so unnatural.

🙄

This is very reminiscent of the threads where some numpty who scraped Cs in GCSE science starts spouting off about autism or ADHD thinking they know more than consultant neurologists who’ve spent their careers as doctors researching and treating these neurological conditions.

There seems to be a proportion of the population that is far too concerned about other people’s medical treatment when a far more productive use of their time would be to examine why their IQ is significantly below average and whether they can mitigate the impact of this to some extent by becoming slightly less embarrassingly ignorant.

I don’t agree with “everyone hates fat people”… if that was the case they’d be glad you’re on the injections to loose weight so you’re no longer fat

People who judge people for being fat, yet then criticise them for taking WLIs, are very shit humans.

Some people are fucking weird. They want to keep you fat so they can keep feeling superior.

If you're that jealous, you can gain weight and then get the jabs.

Sadly I think WLI will be another thing that creates division amongst women.

I'll be honest when asked directly by close friends and family but the gossipy school mum posse won't be getting any info. I've already heard them making judgy comments about people they think are taking WLI, as well as the comments about the poor women who have been honest. There is a lot of "users" about in my neck of the woods!

I'm nowhere near having a noticeable weightloss yet (only 3 weeks into MJ) but I won't be divulging my medical treatments so people I know to be rude and judgemental.