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Everyone just hates fat people

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mamabeeboo · 12/05/2025 15:11

Yes I'm fat and yes I'm taking the WLI.

I've had it out with a friend of a friend during a catch up dinner yesterday and I'm fuming.

I've lost some weight and still have a good 5 or so stone more to go before I'm anywhere near the 'normal' BMI category. So no, I'm not wasting away or disappearing, or losing weight too fast.

The mistake I made was being honest about the jabs. But I stand by it, I think it's important to get healthy, regardless of how you do it, just get there.

ANYWAY, this person has suddenly decided to feel concerned for my health, now that the loss has become noticeable. With some silent nods from others about how you should 'just eat less and move more'. No shit is that what was supposed to do?!

A big discussion about:
just have willpower
just have smaller portions
do it the normal way, you don't know what you're putting into your body
it's not healthy
just put down the fork
it's about dicipline
it's not really losing weight though, is it (huhh??)
it's more rewarding to do it the normal way so you can feel achievement

It's gotten me thinking of how so many people just hate fat people. You want us to pay for being fat, to suffer at the gym doing workouts we don't like or can't do with joint pain and back pain etc. You want us to 'just have willpower' like it's that easy. You want us to try all the diets and fail so you can feel superior with your 'discipline' and that you 'look after your body'.

You hate the fact that these WLI have levelled the playing field.

I said all this yesterday and it became very frosty. These aren't my friends, I was there for the birthday girl, but I won't sit there and take it.

I'm posting because I'd love to hear what you might have heard when talking about WLI. (Or if anyone agrees with the above 🤔)

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AyeKarumba · 02/01/2026 16:57

ChinFluff · 02/01/2026 16:50

I think it makes total sense if you are clinically obese to take them. You'd want to get out of the obese category as the health risks are there.

I do think there's a lack of follow up support and I'm not sure people realise how easy it is once you get to just overweight - if you switch to a small calorie deficit then and lift weights, you will continue to lose, while recouping remaining fat into muscle.

I cringe when people have carried on, because at that point your body is going to start burning muscle tissue for energy which is catastrophic for metabolism (see Sharon Osborne).

I think there's probably something in reaching a certain amount of weight loss then stopping and maintaining for a bit, so you can check your own mindset is healthy, get used to a new set point, avoid nutritional deficiency.

I think the issue would also be if you thought its going to be straightforward to maintain the weight loss at the end - that's where it can come unstuck, so that's where you transition gradually and form good habits along the way.

I think they can be open to abuse- I'm really unsure about people staying on them for life as being a good BMI isn't the only health indicator.

Also I'm unsure about people going back on them because of weight gain - that seems like a cycle of ever decreasing muscle mass (as each time you'd gain mainly fat back and then lose some muscle mass again during dieting).

Weight isn't just weight, it's made up of fat and muscle and the body doesn't distinguish - muscle uses more calories at rest so the body will just burn it for energy if you aren't actively strength training and don't appear to be using it, which is catastrophic for hormone synthesis, fragility in older age etc.

Like everything there are risks and benefits to weigh up.

There's also an internalised misogyny where people think women's bodies and weight are an open topic of discussion.

I’d agree with all of this.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 02/01/2026 17:17

ChinFluff · 02/01/2026 16:50

I think it makes total sense if you are clinically obese to take them. You'd want to get out of the obese category as the health risks are there.

I do think there's a lack of follow up support and I'm not sure people realise how easy it is once you get to just overweight - if you switch to a small calorie deficit then and lift weights, you will continue to lose, while recouping remaining fat into muscle.

I cringe when people have carried on, because at that point your body is going to start burning muscle tissue for energy which is catastrophic for metabolism (see Sharon Osborne).

I think there's probably something in reaching a certain amount of weight loss then stopping and maintaining for a bit, so you can check your own mindset is healthy, get used to a new set point, avoid nutritional deficiency.

I think the issue would also be if you thought its going to be straightforward to maintain the weight loss at the end - that's where it can come unstuck, so that's where you transition gradually and form good habits along the way.

I think they can be open to abuse- I'm really unsure about people staying on them for life as being a good BMI isn't the only health indicator.

Also I'm unsure about people going back on them because of weight gain - that seems like a cycle of ever decreasing muscle mass (as each time you'd gain mainly fat back and then lose some muscle mass again during dieting).

Weight isn't just weight, it's made up of fat and muscle and the body doesn't distinguish - muscle uses more calories at rest so the body will just burn it for energy if you aren't actively strength training and don't appear to be using it, which is catastrophic for hormone synthesis, fragility in older age etc.

Like everything there are risks and benefits to weigh up.

There's also an internalised misogyny where people think women's bodies and weight are an open topic of discussion.

I think this is absolutely right. I’ve lost 3 stone on the jabs and prob need to lose another two. But I’ve come off them now, I can exercise easier - now adjusting my life style to continue losing weight and getting fitter/healthier - hoping that will drop the reliance on the jabs and give me time and impetus to alter my life style!

northernlight20 · 02/01/2026 18:00

what i find annoying, is all the advise us wli users get from especially non users. How about, non users just simply stay out of grown folks business and allow adults to do whatever they see fit for themselves.

chaosmaker · 02/01/2026 18:05

Snippit · 02/01/2026 11:10

Why do so many people need to shut off the need to over eat? Why is this happening? Seriously I’m interested to know, is it due to additives and preservatives in the western diet? Or is it down to the lifestyles of the modern world?

As a teenager of the 80’s this issue didn’t really exist, not many people were obese, but many people weren’t as affluent as we are today. We simply couldn’t afford take aways. The most luxurious food we had at home were Findus pancakes, i loved them back then 🥴

There were nowhere as near as many takeaways either and I don't remember them being delivered. You had to go out to get them (and that for most meant walking there).

eleanorwish · 02/01/2026 18:54

chaosmaker · 02/01/2026 18:05

There were nowhere as near as many takeaways either and I don't remember them being delivered. You had to go out to get them (and that for most meant walking there).

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Same for sweets. If I wanted a Mars bar I had to walk to the corner shop, not the treat cupboard. I don’t remember there being many multipacks available when I was a teenager.

WeAllHaveWings · 02/01/2026 21:24

Snippit · 02/01/2026 11:10

Why do so many people need to shut off the need to over eat? Why is this happening? Seriously I’m interested to know, is it due to additives and preservatives in the western diet? Or is it down to the lifestyles of the modern world?

As a teenager of the 80’s this issue didn’t really exist, not many people were obese, but many people weren’t as affluent as we are today. We simply couldn’t afford take aways. The most luxurious food we had at home were Findus pancakes, i loved them back then 🥴

Food science has progressed massively since the 80s. They test foods full of cheap fillers by monitoring brain activity to determine the “bliss point” purposely to make consumers keep coming back for more - they are not interested in out health, entirely max profit driven. They engineer food and packaging design using auditory cues—like the crack of chocolate on a magnum icecream, the pop of a tube of Pringles, or the crinkle of a bag of dorittos - we are trained like dogs to react to it - when we hear a can of Pepsi max opening we instantly think refreshing, tasty, cold and want to drink it.

Lifestyles obviously don’t help either, more car driving, stressful desk based jobs, long hours, time poor. Parents too busy, stressed using food shortcuts and not teaching their children how to eat well.

All combined are a perfect storm for growing obesity.

Snippit · 02/01/2026 21:26

AyeKarumba · 02/01/2026 16:57

I’d agree with all of this.

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Definitely agree

chaosmaker · 02/01/2026 22:48

The question is why don't governments worldwide act against this on behalf of the people they are supposed to protect and have the best interests of. Also why do we put up with this crappy 'food'.

Hotflushesandchilblains · 02/01/2026 22:51

whatsit84 · 30/12/2025 19:15

How is it NOT eat less and move more though? What I don’t really buy is people talking about ‘food noise’ like slimmer people don’t feel hungry. I feel hungry and think about food a lot, I just don’t put it in my mouth every time I think about it!!

Imagine it like an alcoholic with a drink. Most people can drink and stop, even if sometimes they drink too much. Most of us know that it is not good to drink a lot. But for some alcoholics, one drink opens an overwhelming urge to drink more and more and the strength of that urge makes it harder to resist.

For me, my reaction to food has changed and so I am not tempted to overeat. I eat and I am done. Or if I get hungry it is not overwhelming. Its hard to really describe, except that it is a game changer.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 02/01/2026 23:45

Hotflushesandchilblains · 02/01/2026 22:51

Imagine it like an alcoholic with a drink. Most people can drink and stop, even if sometimes they drink too much. Most of us know that it is not good to drink a lot. But for some alcoholics, one drink opens an overwhelming urge to drink more and more and the strength of that urge makes it harder to resist.

For me, my reaction to food has changed and so I am not tempted to overeat. I eat and I am done. Or if I get hungry it is not overwhelming. Its hard to really describe, except that it is a game changer.

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And unlike an alcoholic, who can choose to never touch alcohol again to avoid the urge to binge drink, binge eaters cannot stop eating because one needs to eat to live. Every meal is a potential binge trigger.

On the WLIs, that overwhelming urge, that feels like a demon has got inside my head and grabbed the joystick that controls my body, has gone. I was shopping earlier today and I looked at the chocolate in the snacks aisle and thought "I don't fancy that". I got three boxes of mince pies on reduced-to-clear and I've eaten two pies and put the rest in the cupboard. This time last year, I would have been scared to buy so many at once and, if I had bought them, I would be well into the second box.

Ukefluke · 03/01/2026 11:58

If it was just eat less move more there wouldnt be an obesity epidemic.
If it was easy to control apetite and cravings there wouldnt be an obesity epidemic.

I cant forcthe life of me understand the animosity towards taking a drug which adresses one of the biggest public health crisis.
Obesity and related conditions cost the NHS more than prescribing these drugs ever would.
I dont get the hate .
Other than smug slim people dont get ro be smug any more and they feel threatened .

Ukefluke · 03/01/2026 12:02

whatsit84 · 30/12/2025 19:15

How is it NOT eat less and move more though? What I don’t really buy is people talking about ‘food noise’ like slimmer people don’t feel hungry. I feel hungry and think about food a lot, I just don’t put it in my mouth every time I think about it!!

Good for you.
Frankly if you are able to not feed constant hunger then you have not actually experienced it. You have experienced normal hunger. Dont spout about things you havent experienced .

U53rName · 03/01/2026 12:10

chaosmaker · 02/01/2026 22:48

The question is why don't governments worldwide act against this on behalf of the people they are supposed to protect and have the best interests of. Also why do we put up with this crappy 'food'.

Because Coca Cola™️, McDonalds™️, Mars™️, etc have major lobbyists.

chaosmaker · 03/01/2026 12:40

I know that, but they don't have to be listened to

HeavyHeidi · 03/01/2026 12:47

Imagine it like an alcoholic with a drink. Or take a gambling addict, stand them in the middle of a casino and tell them to do just a couple of slot machines and black jack, but otherwise, just gamble less, you know.

Pavementworrier · 03/01/2026 12:50

I think a lot of people are jealous tbh. I would love to take it now and then (I'm not eligible by current measures but I think it could benefit everyone one way or another and hope it will open out).

Binus · 03/01/2026 22:06

whatsit84 · 30/12/2025 19:15

How is it NOT eat less and move more though? What I don’t really buy is people talking about ‘food noise’ like slimmer people don’t feel hungry. I feel hungry and think about food a lot, I just don’t put it in my mouth every time I think about it!!

Aw, sorry to hear that. Sounds frustrating. Thanks to WLI I can put food in my mouth whenever I feel like it and still be normal BMI.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 03/01/2026 22:20

Binus · 03/01/2026 22:06

Aw, sorry to hear that. Sounds frustrating. Thanks to WLI I can put food in my mouth whenever I feel like it and still be normal BMI.

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A lot of that is that you don't feel like it any more, which is part of the point.

I gained a little over Xmas, despite being on 1.7mg Wegovy. What I wasn't doing was pigging out until I felt sick on those little chocolates that come in tins, unable to stop myself. The demon who steals the joystick has been exorcised.

AyeKarumba · 03/01/2026 22:59

U53rName · 03/01/2026 12:10

Because Coca Cola™️, McDonalds™️, Mars™️, etc have major lobbyists.

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Yep. It’s called late stage capitalism

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 04/01/2026 00:12

U53rName · 03/01/2026 12:10

Because Coca Cola™️, McDonalds™️, Mars™️, etc have major lobbyists.

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You're right. Have we got as far as a junk food industrial complex, where the govt buys stuff from these companies who then use the money from the govt to lobby the govt, yet?

RobinEllacotStrike · 05/01/2026 11:21

I think we are pretty much there and a great example of this is school breakfast clubs. (** my DC are now at high school but we have used breakfast clubs at primary).

One on hand:
childhood obesity is on the rise, whatever can we do??? <wring hands helplessly>
GOVT SHOUTS AT PARENTS - "you need to reduce your childs sugar intake & feed them healthier foods."

On the other hand:
GOVT - Children need breakfast clubs as parents aren't giving their DC food & working parents needs support.
WORKING PARENT USES BREAKFAST CLUB - kids are offered breakfast - would you like coco pops, frosties or jam on toast with a glass of cheap sugary "orange juice"?

None of these foods are food we have at home as we don't do unhealthy high sugar breakfasts. All food options are the very worst foods that the very same government tells us not to feed our kids. For us it was once a week,but some kids eat this every morning and its sold to us all as a "vitally healthy way to start the day" so "parents aren't out of pocket" (I believe they were Starmers words)

So government berrates parents for giving kids sugary food and/or no food at all, and then the govt, via their funded breakfast clubs offers kids coco pops & frosties for breakfast. Not only both sugary cereals but the very worst sugary cereals.

Make it make sense.

Breakfast clubs are a great idea - but there must be a condition imposed that any school receiving funding for breakfast clubs must provide a healthy breakfast - porridge, eggs, wholegrain toast, milk.

See also NHS etc -
Government "you are all irresponsible fat cunts who need to eat better. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for your LIVES & HEALTH"
NHS - here is a meal of the worst nutritionally depleted cheap horrible tasting food you will ever eat. The only worse meal you will eat is the next NHS meal we will serve you.

U53rName · 05/01/2026 13:36

My DD’s after school wraparound care has a sandwich DIY station for tea. DD always made herself a honey and lemon curd sandwich. Sugar on sugar on carbs. 🤦‍♀️ Luckily it was only 2x per week over 2 years. But still…

RobinEllacotStrike · 05/01/2026 15:22

Yes that it! Super easy for the school and they will no doubt be reporting kids in the afterschool care get a "healthy snack" & pat themselves on the back.

Its gaslighting by government at an epic level.

this lack of any joined up thinking and/or policy making makes me very cross. It also errodes trust (in government - if you still have any)

chaosmaker · 09/01/2026 13:25

No trust in any and no idea who to vote in in the Senedd elections

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