Mounjaro - 10 Stone or more to lose (Thread 3)

[TheFunkyDuckling]

Thought I'd kick start a new thread for this oh so supportive little group, as the last thread was reaching it's limit.

Has anyone had people tell them they've lost enough now and should stop?
Only my chiropodist.
🤣

My weight is just under 13 stone and my BMI is 31.

Nobody else has told me to stop.
Yet.

I would try to focus on the compliment @WafflingDreamer and ignore the rest. People can be very odd at times! Unless you knew them well enough to ask directly you'll probably never understand.

Perhaps they were trying to over emphasise just how great you look and how well they think you have done, perhaps they are slightly discombobulated by your new look and they are taking time to adjust, that translates to you slowing down for their brains to catch up! (Hell no, you keep going! 🤣)

Nope, but it's your choice when you stop take no notice of anyone else.

@AlicesMum2025 I hope you’ve had a lovely afternoon, what weather we’re having 🌞

Some people calorie count but I decided from the beginning I wanted to avoid “dieting” as long as possible in case it triggered binge eating. So I have cut out snacks, and reduced the quantity of food that I eat. The longer I’m on MJ the easier I’m finding it to recognise when I’m full and I’m leaning towards healthier choices. However I decided not to cut out anything completely unless I’m prepared to ban it for life. And especially at a meal out, BBQ, birthday etc I will choose what I want. Inevitably I’m finding my choices are healthier. It was my birthday on Friday I enjoyed a piece of cake. The first I’ve had since January! But I had no craving for another.

Happy belated birthday 🎉

I had a nice time thank you. For now I'm counting calories because I've been overweight so long that I need to re-educate myself about food. I'm learning to recognise when I'm full because normally I would insist on clearing my plate. I need to get used to dishing up smaller meals and being comfortable with throwing food away (which I don't like to do). Hopefully I'll get to the point where I can relax a bit but I'm only W2D3 so I'm not quite there yet 🤞

Sometimes, I don't think people like it when we step out of our lanes. It makes them uncomfortable when we crawl out of the box we're supposed to live in. A friend of mine lost loads and was asked by someone if she had cancer! I mean, how insensitive apart from anything else! Imagine, if all us fatties become skinnies, then what will the skinnies have to feel smug and superior about?? They won't feel as special! Not suggesting that's the motivation for the people who said it to you, but I think some of the anger people weirdly display when we are on WLI (waves to random 'Non-Judgement' poster from earlier, now chased away) is down to that. It's fear. It's like dogs and cats suddenly having opposable thumbs....

NSV yesterday. I put on socks!

I know, not a great achievement in human kind but I put some on without it being a wrestling match. For a while now I have not been wearing them because I couldn't easily bend my right leg (painful knee, painful hip). Yesterday I gave it a go and no pain.

The 'injecting yourself with God knows what' comment amused rather than offended me. Like the pharmacist has a bucket of ditch water and is filling syringes with that.

Week 5 2.5lbs off
Total lost 17lbs

Was getting a bit worried things had slowed down after 1.5 and 1lb losses but am pleased with how things are going. It still feels like a really long journey ahead, even to get to the stage of needing new clothes so for now I’ll settle for just being able to get back into some of the stuff I already have.

Why on earth would taking prescribed, licenced medication which has been used successfully for many years be termed "god knows what?". What are you even talking about? Have you never taken any prescription medication?

Just been having a look at my weights over time (had to dig this out as jot something I've looked at since covid) and just feeling a bit sad for myself.

13 years ago (and a bit) I had my second child. It was traumatic (I ended up in intensive care) and then I had very little support after (abusive family and husband had to work away). I hadn't realised but I put on 4 stone in a year after that. That is crazy. It was such a difficult time and those next few years were so hard. I'm feeling sad for the younger me. I was already overweight and did then gradually put more on over the years but that in a year is crazy. I don't think I left the house much.

I'm in a much better place now but it was such a dark time. Counselling has helped with some of it but gosh. 4 stone.

Well, now you’ll lose 4 stone in a year! I put 5 stone on in 37 weeks with my pregnancy 25 years ago, it was like a green light had been given to me to not diet constantly And I was 11 st before I got pregnant. I remember coming out of hospital after a C-section, 4 days and a 7lb 1oz baby and hopping on the scales to see I’d only lost 6lb (I’m not sure to this day how that’s possible 🤣). I lost about 3 of it by breastfeeding and walking, before my problems with my feet kicked in and I couldn’t walk and since then I’ve gained about 10lb a year, sometimes less, sometimes more, with constant WW/SW inbetween recycling the same loss/gain.

Re your question about intimacy, I’d say if your husband loves you now, he’ll love you with any loose skin, I don’t think men notice such things tbh. Men don’t have such negative feelings about changes to their bodies, they’re quite proud of a beer gut!

Thankyou and yes I've lost 3 stone already this year and this is definitely working. I may lose more than 4 stone in a year which is also crazy!! And life is so much better now.

I think I'm just having a funny couple of days. I'm so so pleased with MJ and the weight loss maybe it's just stirring up some buried feelings?

Did you have a good birthday?

Sorry you had this experience. Trauma and weight gain go hand in hand. I had my first baby last year and I also ended up in intensive care. I’m waiting to get therapy to address lots of trauma over the past year. It’s understandable for
you to feel sad about the younger you - you were grieving a postpartum life you never got to have. Sending hugs

Oh lord, the hiccups I’ve been having since moving to 5mgs lol (week 13 and have only just moved up from 2.5mgs).

On the plus side, I’m in sz18 jeans this morning, down from a sz24 when I started 3 or so months ago.

Grrr, I need to vent. I've just phoned my provider to tell them my delivery hadn't arrived (was due Friday), and she was so rude and unhelpful. Long story short, it will take 7 days to investigate, and they won't send a replacement until after that. If it turns up in the meantime, it will still be safe to use, even though its probably been sat in the back of a delivery van since last Thursday in this hot weather. If I refuse delivery, they 'may' issue a replacement, dependant on what condition it arrives back to them. She also kept huffing & puffing because I had to keep asking her to repeat herself, as she was on speakerphone, and I could barely hear her, her manner was just so rude.

Needless to say, I've seen my arse, and am going to look at other providers. I know these things happen, but I begrudge giving business to companies with such poor customer service.

Argh, rant over. Have a great day everyone 😊

Day 2 of 5mg and oh my god the sulphur burps are disgusting. They almost make me want to throw up. I’m on day 1 of my new job today (working from home) and I’m sat in training trying to stifle them all. Thank God I’m not in the office!

@Billybingbong goodness, there was no need for her to be so rude to you.

I got my own from Second Nature. They initially charged me £129 but I noticed they debited my account another £70 on Saturday, so I'm furious about that.

I actually only wanted a spare pen, so I've got it now, and I've cancelled the subscription to Second Nature.

I'm sticking with Medino now. At least they're honest and polite.

Yea! We made the right choice..... though the research was paid for by Eli Lilly..... I'll be c16 1/2stone when I've shed 25% of my starting weight over 6 stone.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2416394

"Wegovy, also known as semaglutide, mimics a hormone released by the body after a meal to flip one appetite switch in the brain. Mounjaro, or tirzepatide, flips two.

The trial, which was paid for by Eli Lilly, the manufacturer of Mounjaro, involved 750 obese people, with an average weight of 113kg (nearly 18 stone).

They were asked to take the highest dose they could tolerate of one of the two drugs.

The findings, presented at the European Congress on Obesity in Malaga and in the New England Journal of Medicine, external, showed:

• 32% of people lost a quarter of their body weight on Mounjaro compared to 16% on Wegovy
• Those on Mounjaro lost an average of 18cm from their waistlines compared with 13cm on Wegovy.
• Those on Mounjaro had better blood pressure, blood sugar and cholesterol levels.
• Both had similar levels of side-effects.
• Women tended to lose more weight than men.

Dr Louis Aronne, who conducted the trial at the Comprehensive Weight Control Center at Weill Cornell Medicine in New York, said: "The majority of people with obesity will do just fine with semaglutide (Wegovy), those at the higher end may ultimately do better with tirzepatide (Mounjaro).""

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy75dk8kjr1o?at_ptr_name=twitter&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_origin=BBCScotlandNews&at_link_type=web_link&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_medium=social&at_format=link&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_link_id=EF589DBE-2F03-11F0-9BD4-AB4AA13D7B60

What an embarrassing way to let your prejudices against fat people show. Don't do the disingenuous 'no judgement' thing when your words drip with judgement - own your own bigotry.
You have assumed that not thinking about what one eats has to mean eating junk food. Because that's what the thick, lazy fatties eat, right? It couldn't possibly mean just eating normal, healthy meals without obsessing about those meals.
And those stupid fatties couldn't possibly have done their research into the prescription medication they are on to tackle their obesity, nope just lazy lumps shouting 'give me the skinny jabs' as we wobble to Macdonalds.
I don't know what made you visit a support chat for people very committed to losing a serious amount of weight and 'not judging' anyone like this, but it says so much more about you than it does about anyone you came here to 'not judge'.

@FatsiaJaponicaInTheGarden I did thank you. We ended up at Betty’s in Harrogate and I chose wisely, salmon with roasted potatoes and salad and a macaroon for dessert (that I took home to enjoy later as I was full). The calories were on the menu and whereas before I’d try to ignore them (how dare they try to spoil my meal?!), we both used them to guide our choices. My salmon was about 700 cals, my macaroon 300. Compared with burger and chips 1400 and some desserts which were 700+.

@SeaStoat I was just coming here to share the BBC article. I thought it interesting women lost more than men, which is not usually the case on a diet - I wonder why that was? Also the fact they were asked to take the highest dose they could tolerate, whereas I’ve been trying to stick to the lowest dose and am finding my weight loss has stalled, and my food noise has increased. I went back to 7.5mg last night and am hoping I don’t see the return of the diarrhoea I got last time (still treating the resulting piles 😬🤣).

Victory!
Five years ago I was refused gastric surgery because of my weight.

Today I saw my GP and he's referred me again, because I'm 7 stone down.

@Kay2000 i thought that too about men. Men don’t have to compete with constant fluctuating hormones which hugely impact appetite and weight and bloating. It’s surprising the women lost more!

@TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne congrats! What was their rationale for declining you previously? As surely having the surgery will help with the weight loss, isnt that the whole point? Is there a limit on how heavy you can be? I ask this while watching my 600lb life… where they’re getting surgery!

I wonder if they aren’t as good at putting up with side effects as we are? I’d be interested in seeing the study to see what dose people were on and if men could tolerate the higher doses or were on a lower dose. I’m only suggesting this idea as we know what some men are like with a cold 😉