I don't understand weight loss injections. I have questions

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Google tells me that people loose 10% of their body weight over a year. so if you started at 100kg, you would be 90kg after a whole year!! that is not good weight loss at all. definitely not worth, what it costs

but people loose significantly more than that, don't they?? certainly people on social media have definitely lost more than 10% and in a shorter space of time

2nd question from a place of considering trying it because I have mobility issues and it would really be beneficial to not be over weight. but, I don't particularly eat loads and loads. I have a sweet tooth and I emotionally eat, I'm not eating because I am hungry. so am I correct in thinking that it probably wouldn't help me much?

Can I ask what helped the emotional eating? I lost 4 stone last year just through diet and exercise and willpower. I had an emotional setback and I have put it all back on and a little besides! Absolutely gutted. But when my mental health dived so did any motivation.
Im considering injections this time

I have a sweet tooth and I emotionally eat, I'm not eating because I am hungry. so am I correct in thinking that it probably wouldn't help me much?

It will definitely help you based on this, it does take away that 'food noise' I have gone from 105kg to 88kg since the beginning of November

Sorry to go back to this discussion, I have wondered this, but worry I’m being ignorant. My bmi is 29.6 so don’t qualify for the jabs, but obviously I’m not a healthy weight. I’m really struggling to lose weight as peri menopausal, and I know I am guilty of emotional/ stress eating. It seems crazy if I put on half a stone I would qualify for the injection and could then keep taking it to reach a healthier weight.

Is anyone experiencing sickness or diarrhoea when taking it? I have IBS, so often have painful tummy and bouts of diarrhoea, worried about making that worse with MJ 😕

@Italiandreams it's not crazy, it's just that there has to be a cut off somewhere and a BMI of 30 is what was determined as the most sensible by the MHRA when they were considering the application to approve WLI. Also, if you want to try WLI you can apply online and see if you are approved, at a borderline weight it may be that some pharmacies may approve. If you have a weight related health condition then you can get WLI from a BMI of 27, also if you are one of a list of specific ethnicities where obese is classified as starting from a BMI of 27.

It seems very logical to me that if you continue to put on weight and unable to prevent that through other methods, that you then become eligible for weight loss injections.

No, I agree people still have to eat healthy and exercise. It’s a helpful tool but without such drugs people who have lost a signifigant amount of weight will continue to produce excess hunger hormone so their body will tell them to eat more than they need.

I’ve been on mounjaro since the middle of January, 2 stone 2lbs down, which is 14.9% of my body weight. It works by suppressing your appetite, the majority of the time I don’t feel hungry, so force myself to eat. Emotional eating and binge eating has gone out the window because I just don’t feel like eating. I’m making healthier choices when I have meals, don’t snack anywhere near the amount I did before, and feel 100 times happier and more comfortable in my body.

@Whateverfloatsyourgoat 20 years is not very long, especially in medicine. It's not even a generation. It doesn't take into account a lot of long term aspects.

Because people want to be underweight and/or are scared to put the weight back on, or are very commonly lying about their weight in the first place as shown on this forum. If it was that safe to take they'd want everyone on it for life for the ££££.

I don't take ibuprofen either.

It's very dangerous to minimise the risks that are literally listed on the packaging just because of your own single experience.

You only understand that when even medical professionals have recommended you things that have nearly killed you in the past.

If you look at recent BBC articles about weightloss injections, they now refer to them having potentially serious side effects whenever they discuss them.

A blase attitude isn't helpful.

What's more helpful is encouraging people to research it properly and decide if it's for them.

I imagine the OP has instead had a lot of people messaging privately with discount codes so they can profit from her. Maybe you're one of them.

I was an emotional binge eater. It was horrible. I tried various diets, improving overall wellbeing and CBT, but nothing helped.

Injections stopped it overnight.

I’ve been using injections for over a year now.

I started on Wegovy which I found to be more effective, but for cost reasons I moved to MJ. I’m now tapering and delighted to find the binge eating urge hasn’t returned.

14.1 SW, 10.9 CW, 10.3 GW

@SilenceInside I do understand their needing to be a cut off, and in a large scale I know it makes sense. It’s just when I am battling all the time to maintain my weight and losing weight is so tricky, it can feel frustrating to know if I put on half a stone much more support would be available. I would qualify for lots of free support groups. I do think it’s important to support people to lose weight, though, it’s just a personal frustration .

I have lost 30% + of my body weight over the last year, and my T2 diabetes is considered in remission. I will stay on MJ until there is a newer drug to help me manage my obesity and blood sugar. The changes are truly life changing for me.

But to be clear, some people find it works very easily, but others have to put in more effort and changes. I lost very slowly at first, and I have completely overhauled my diet and my behavior. I have been overweight for most of my life, mainly due to overeating and blood sugar issues. I could not have made those changes without the support of MJ - but it is only support. I had to put in all the work. I eat very healthily (but normally) about 85% of the time, with some treats when I want them. I do not feel deprived in any way, but I do finally feel like I have control over my choices. Most importantly, my blood sugar is in the normal range, and my blood pressure is normal for the first time since I was 15 years old.

I exercise nearly every day, have fallen in love with Pilates (and I have never thought of myself as someone who would fall in love with any form of exercise) and I walk about 25-30 miles a week. I still struggle to see myself as this new size, but I am having so much fun choosing outfits and wearing cute clothes. I know people will judge me for using injections, so I do not tell them. But they also judged me for being fat, and never even tried to understand how difficult that was, so f*#% them.

"if I put on half a stone much more support would be available. I would qualify for lots of free support groups." - I don't think that's the case at all. What things have you seen that you would qualify for that you currently can't access?

In my NHS area there is a free 12 week programme NHS Weight Loss Plan app that anyone can access. Then there are several further free programmes available to anyone who is overweight (BMI 25+).

There isn't anything else for being a BMI of over 30, unless you also have a weight related health condition, like high BP or diabetes. Then there are the specialist weight management programmes for those with BMI of 35 plus, but that's got a very long waiting list and offers not much more than what you can get that I've previously outlined, or after working through multiple tiers of support, eventually bariatric surgery.

In my area you can access free support including nutrition classes, free slimming world classes and free exercise information classes if your bmi is over 30. Like I said I think it’s great and I do understand the need for a cut off. It’s just on a personal level it’s frustrating. I think I have the app but it seems to just track my calories. I know what I should eat, but being the age I am it’s definitely harder and will power alone can be difficult, especially with a very busy lifestyle. I know ultimately it’s down to me but I guess help would be nice.

@Italiandreamsso, give yourself a break from the constant struggles for a few weeks, put on a few pounds and then all that free support and WLI will be available to you.

At least you now know that in at least one other NHS area being BMI 30 plus doesn’t qualify you for lots of free support in any way, so hopefully that helps you feel better about this.

@thankyounextplease so you only take drugs that have been around for multiple generations. I guess antibiotics are probably ok for you right about now - been around 75 years or so. And I assume you’re anti vax then as all of these are modern drugs?

The fact of the matter is that many many millions of people are taking GLP-1 medications across the world and serious side effects are very very rare. Hence why you can buy them online.

It’s your own personal choice not to want to use them but please don’t stalk around WLI forums posting non factual rubbish to try and scare people. In fact, if you clearly have no intention of taking them why have you referenced being on SM forums about them? I suspect to spread more of this rubbish eh?

Or do you also post on every thread about giving Calpol the potential side effects - throwing in some made up ones to boot? ‘Calpol, yeah, I read on a social media forum that kids have things growing around their organs mate, Sheila told me’

And no, I’ve not sent the op a discount code but if I had, so what, it’s not fucking crack.

@Whateverfloatsyourgoat They may be our resident WLI-shitposter. We get them from time to time!

Oh joy!

@SilenceInside I’m not sure why that would make me feel better. I have been clear I think it’s great support is available, I understand there needs to be a cut off. My frustration is purely a personal thing, I am just saying I think I think WLI would help my struggle. I haven’t mentioned anyone else and I wouldn’t. You are trying to pick a fight about something that I’m not saying.

I don’t get the frustration, just stop struggling for a couple of weeks, put on a few pounds and you can access everything you want to access. Because it’s there for you, if you get to the point of needing it. It should be reassuring that the help and free support is there for you if you get to that point, rather than being frustrating that you don’t currently need that support.

mounjaro or wegovy? I'm gonna do it!

I would recommend Mounjaro.

Good luck!

Mounjaro is meant to have slightly better results

No guarantees, as everybody has a slightly different experience on it, but the improvement it's made to my IBS-D makes it worth taking for that alone. The first couple of weeks I had a few days of horrific, explosive diarrhoea and was scared that Mounjaro wasn't going to work with my mad digestive system. Since then though this has all calmed down.
I still carry imodium everywhere but have barely needed it and have even had some constipation - which is almost enjoyable after years of urgency. The WLI slow down your digestive system, so if it working too fast before taking them then it can balance things out well.

MJ has fewer side effects and higher weight loss results. I feel so confident in it’s comparative safety I agreed for my 16yo son to take it (he turns 17 in 2 weeks and is 4 stone lighter, having gained weight during 4x covid and lockdown). However, your prescriber should discuss the relative side effects, pros and cons based on your medical history, so I’d discuss it with them and see what they recommend?

100% over a year 😂

I've been on it over a year and have only lost 35lb.

It's not a 'miracle drug' for everyone.