January 2025 Starters Thread 5 - Tortoises, Slow Runners, let’s lose a bit more!

[DGonMJ]

Previous thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/weight-loss-injections/5270287-january-2025-starters-thread-4-lets-lose-some-more

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I've not wanted sweet/fattening stuff since I've started and seem to have gone off booze since being on 5mg too, I was managing a few cocktails at the weekend on 2.5mg! I'm pretty certain that if I came off Mj the cravings for sugar would return though which is why I'm possibly not going to come off entirely.

I don't think you can use Mj to "learn" to not eat fatty/carbs/sugary foods as we are dealing with a different state of being whilst on it. It's like a drug addict taking methadone and then eventually coming off it, going cold turkey and then going back to the heroin isn't it? A crude analogy maybe and obviously this isn't everyone's opinion - some people seem to think they can use their time on MJ to educate themselves about eating healthily/not reaching for the crap stuff and then put it into practice when they come off and be successful - and if you can do that, brilliant and I applaud you. But I know about healthy eating and calorie control. I know what I can eat to maintain my weight and the things I should avoid as they'll set my cravings off. I don't need educating. My problem is I don't keep it up long term! I'm pretty sure if I come off the cravings will return and il be back at square one. That's what has always happened when I've done Sw, fasting, low carb etc so why would MJ be any different?

In other news I shared a banana loaf with dh yesterday and enjoyed it - the first time I've had cake since starting and I also had a poached egg and didn't get the dreaded sulphur/minging taste in my mouth so maybe I am ok with eggs after all and the last time was just bad luck.

And I also had a reverse NSV yesterday after my flex at getting in a "S" top on Friday - pulled out a pair of size 14 (from next so realistically a 'large' 14) linen trousers and thought I'd be swimming in them but could hold them up with a belt, seeing as I've lost 17lbs and am obviously svelte and whippet thin now - nope! They were tight! It certainly put me in my place and made me realise I still have a way to go!

Meant to say, Ive also noticed my mood has been much better this week and I haven't been quite as tired - maybe 5mg is agreeing better with me? Or I wonder if it has been more to do with the relentlessly grey weather and now we've had a bit of sunshine it's perked me up. It would be a relief to know I'm not just going to be depressed and knackered if I stay on it long term.

@Thelittlestranger @Seaitoverthere i haven’t been reading any other threads (I ❤️ this one so much). What are people finding about going public?

I’ve only told one friend and regret that. She’s been v supportive, but chances are she’ll tell one other person, etc etc. I’m wondering if I should tell her that I’ve stopped…. I haven’t told my DH and am pleased about that. The longer I am doing it, the less of a ‘thing’ it will be. I feel the results are speaking for themselves.

@JoanCollinsDiva ohhh odd the mood. I had my mid week melt down then the next day took my higher dose (about 4.3) and have been quite perky since! Even with wind that would stun a buffalo.

I haven't told anyone @GrumpyMuleFan and I am not sure I intend to. My GP and one hospital consultant (I have three) know, maybe the others know from my records, I haven't seen the others this year so I don't know.

I was speaking to a friend who has given up booze and is eating 1500 calories a day who was evangelically telling me how to lose weight last week. 😴 Eat less, move more, blah, blah, blah.

I didn't say, guess what, I've been eating 1500 calories a day for a couple of years, I don't drink/have anything particularly bad to give up, my weight hasn't moved an ounce so I've dropped to 1000 calories a day and right now I need MJ to help me.

I feel really strongly that I don't want anyone else's opinion on my weight, weight loss, WLIs etc., etc.. I'm doing this for me and my health. I don't want DC2 to know because of their anxiety so am keeping DC1 out of it too.

This is my safe haven on this journey.

@JoanCollinsDiva what I’m hoping is that after a period of time of eating better I’ll have reduced cravings so it will be easier to not eat lots of sugary junk (my personal Achilles heel).
Like you, I know what I should and shouldn’t be eating (I don’t believe there’s a fat person in existence who doesn’t know this), it’s more that I need the physical cravings to diminish.

I just had a quick look at that thread. It’s pretty enraging.

Some people are really angry that we have access to jabs. It’s really odd, or jealousy/resentment.

I didn’t really people who don’t use them are superior (well think they are).

I had a colleague who loudly proclaimed what horrible things those jabs are and how can people be so stupid and desperate to use them. So I'm not planning to share the info about mine in the office 😁

There’s been a few snooty/ judgy comments in my office. I know 2 people on them but they’ve not told anyone else. I’m good at keeping secrets, I didn’t reciprocate the info as I wasn’t sure they’d be discreet, or as able up keep a secret,
I don’t think I looked eligible, I’m short, carry weight on middle and was actually obese, but hid it (I think !).

I have bought a smaller pair of jeans on Vinted. The exact same style I usually wear but just a smaller size so I knew they would be good. Plus only £4 so a win! I think they won't fit me long though as they are already feeling quite loose. I also got a nice jacket for spring in the M&S sale as I had a voucher to use, but it's a size 12 and quite a boxy style so will fit me at a smaller size. Can't imagine I'd ever be smaller than a 10! I am currently a comfortable 12 and have some bits I can wear which have been too small for a while but will definitely need to get some new basics I think.

I've not told anyone either but not bc I care what they think - I just can't be arsed arguing with people who are ill informed, jealous, threatened or downright thick.

All the usual bingo numbers are being shouted on that other thread: "just don't eat biscuits", "it's just greed", "cut out carbs" etc. as well as a lot of amusingly bonkers statements - I give you: "my colleague has track marks all down her arms from it" 🤣

There are a lot of idiots on there and as they say "you can't argue with stupid"!

I like the take a brisk walk comments. Oh, should I do that magical weight loss walk before or after my 10K run?

Oh it makes me mad reading all the judgy comments. I'm so lucky my colleagues are all very supportive and understand how much I've struggled. They are also intelligent enough to understand the jab isn't a miracle worker.

Oh gosh what is this thread?! I’ve told only a select few… there is a school mum who has told me openly about how bad the injections are : laziness, stealing from diabetics etc. she has never had a weight problem. She has an off switch and probably has no trauma…

It's in trending Upperroom

"AIBU to be jealous of everyone getting WLI's"?

If you fancy a laugh!

That thread is like the WLI Bingo card.

I have just read that we “should just get ourselves some willpower” 🙄

Or
-don’t buy biscuits 🙄

“Swap white bread for brown” 😂

Don't buy biscuits is fab advice to be fair. I never thought of that.

We are safe here. I’m not venturing out amongst the crazy again.

They really don’t want us to have an easy time losing weight do they? Apparently losing 1-2 stone is nothing. It’s the total amount of weight that I need to lose to get me from 28 to 23 ish. If only I’d known it was nothing

Why does the op not just try out the injections?! My bmi was only 27 but it was messing with everything in my life. I feel i have a level of control now and a hope for the future. Weight isn’t put on quickly. had I carried on I think I would easily have carried on gaining. As I said in the beginning the hrt nurse basically said suck it up to me - weigh gain and peri go hand in hand. Well they don’t now! And all my crazy emotional eating (panicking if I don’t have chocolate in the house) is gone! I feel free 🤩

The OP has a fairly recent history of eating disorders so really shouldn’t be going near WLI. I think she knows that but is jealous because she knows people who are on it

I try not to look at much else tbh. I’m a cynical old bird and rarely believe much, 🧌s everywhere.

I haven’t read ‘the’ thread but noticed it is still in trending this morning 👻.

Weighed in, no change today which is fine.

My resolution for the week is that I must keep up with taking psyllium husks daily.

I won’t be home until 7pm tonight so need to plan my food carefully today. 💉 day tomorrow.

I noticed something yesterday, dinner was a salmon fillet, baby veg and rice noodles. Usually I would be starving and chomping at the bit to get cooking by 5-5:30pm at the weekend. My meal times have slipped by a couple of hours, I didn’t start cooking until 7pm and it is only a 20 min dinner.

Morning all. Just catching up with the weekend’s posts. I think I’m at similar point to quite a few of you @ the 10 kg loss point.

For me, one of the reasons for going on MJ was to break some habits and the treat/ reward association I have with food (and wine). If I can spend some months doing this - fairly easily I might add as I’ve no interest anymore in crisps, wine biscuits etc so doesn’t feel like deprivation - that then I hope I’ll be better equipped to continue going forward with or without maintenance.

So week 8 and moving up to 3.75 for the first time. Things have slowed down a bit which I don’t mind, but feel it’s definitely time to move up.

I struggle to keep up with this thread it moves so quick!!

Weight day and Jab day today!
3rd 5mg today

sw: 16.11
cw: 14.11
total loss in 7 weeks ( did golden dose ) 2 stone!

I lost two pounds this week, feel glum about it ( which I know is silly) just feel that if it’s going to be this rate now it’s going to take aaagggeeess to get to goal ( first goal 12stone)

definitely feel more hungry on 5mg towards the end of the week - at the beginning of the week I could probably go two days without eating ( I do of course) I never go over my calorie allowance, always drink loads of water etc.

anyways - 3rd week of 5mg here I come!