Weight gain on mounjaro

[Polkadotdash]

Any else experience this? I’m just starting my 4th week on 2.5mg. I lost a few pounds in my first week on it, but these are back on now. I’ve had no effects at all from the injections - good or bad. I’ve already bought the 5mg dose to start next week, but I’m starting to wonder if it’s worth the cost. I bought from a big online pharmacy so I’m assuming that I haven’t been sent a placebo or anything. But it’s really doing nothing for me, apart from costing me money! Am I alone in this?

Two stone is amazing.

@12purplepencils similar loss over a similar time scale to me. Think I’m actually a bit slower. At least nobody suspects I’m on it. 😂. Two people at work have lost weight very quickly and I’m suspicious they’re on it.

Yes only a couple of people have commented to me, which I’m fine about. I dislike anyone commenting on my weight.
But I think that’s partly also because so far I’ve still been in my kind of 2 stone cycle where it wasn’t that long ago I was this weight from low carbing then I always fall off the wagon. If I carry on losing I’m going to be in “new territory” where I won’t have been that weight for many years. I’m only planning to get to BMI 27 and maintain there. Bit worried about my face 😆

@12purplepencils morning I'm doing this for surgery on my spine so excersize is a no go I wish I could 🙃

And most importantly alter your response to insulin.

This is what you aren't understanding.

This is something you can't replicate with will power and you won't be able to measure unless you monitored blood sugare before.

Altering your insulin response makes your attempts to lose weight more effective. Depending upon how disordered your insulin response is you might need higher doses to get maximum effect.

I started at 15.4 now 13.4 weigh I'm tomorrow but I think it's the toilet is my problem I've always had problems with constipation due to my back injury if I can manage I'll loose a little if not I won't

Hi @12purplepencils

I've been taking MJ since September and have lost almost stone (from 19 to start with). MJ doesn't reprogram your metabolism, it's just an aid to help you consume less calories by reducing your appetite, evening out your blood sugar and slowing your digestion so you feel fuller.

You know you need to be in a deficit, as others have said you need to spend a week weighing and recording so that you can truly measure what your intake is. Then, instead of looking at what you can take out, fiets think about what you can add in. So ...

Greek yogurt, fruit, protein bar (weekends is toast) - I would add more full fat Greek yoghurt as that would keep me full and give energy, keep the fruit for fibre. Ditch the protein bar as its it will be UPF and likely not as protein rich as you expect.

lunch - pasta and vegetables and cheese on top/brown rice veg - I would add red kidney beans to pasta, or quinoa to the rice, then reduce the portion or pasta/rice. This would bring down your carbs, increase fibre and protein. Keep the veg and cheese and maybe all extra Virginia olive oil for healthy fats and polyphenols.

snack - hopefully not needed as you're fuller from lunch, but I'd carry a small tub of nuts just in case

dinner - cheese salad sandwich or hummus and salad wrap. I'd make the salad bigger, add halloumi or avocado to make it fulfilling and not have the bread or wrap.

When you say you keep putting on a few lbs do you mean your weight is going up and down? Are you overall staying the same? If you've lost 20% of your original weight you might have reached your capacity to lose (without making a lot of effort to cut calories further)

You know that’s a myth right? I think people took the lose up to x percent from the manufactures and then thought it meant there was a capacity to lose. Surely common sense would apply from all the threads of folks losing up to ten stone, folks losing 30, 40, or 50 percent of their body weight, not making a lot of effort to cut cals past what is required to stay in deficit, would ring an alarm bell that it was nonsense?

no manufacturer has ever said you can only lose 20 percent. And that’s it. PAs that it’s a big effort on cals.

please think logically before you post.

Sorry have lost almost 4 stone

There is no evidence that 20% or anything else is the 'capacity to lose' or that such a thing exists.

I do not know why people feel they can quote incorrect tiktok shit like this without actually checking the facts first. Just because some social media airhead cannot understand trial results and bleats utter shit does not make it true. Check check check for yourself.

In fact I think we should start a bingo card with all these untruths. This thread is full of them starting with the unbelievable "it wont make you feel fuller? it doesnt fill you up? it surpresses your appetite"

Oh yes, and we can add "2.5mg is a starter dose and doesn't actually do anything and is probably a placebo effect". Again - the trial results and data do not show anything of the sort.

It is true that some people do not respond at all until the higher doses.

Wow 😆 I thought this thread was a bit mad and now I'm getting it too. @Polkadotdash no idea what about your OP specifically has triggered such a weird, angry response from the mumsnet massive but here we are.

Re the 20% - it's the figure that is projected to be the average loss for people based on clinical trials. It's quoted by my provider in their FAQs. It's not from 'TikTok airheads' or whatever pp said.

onlinedoctor.asda.com/uk/why-am-i-not-losing-weight-on-mounjaro.html

Obviously some people lose more and some lose less, that's how averages work. But personally I found it easy to lose 2.5 stone without calorie counting as the drug created enough of a deficit naturally by reducing my appetite and making me feel fuller. Now my TDEE has dropped so the amount of food I am comfortable eating isn't generating any deficit so I need to make a concerted effort if I want to keep losing. That's what I meant, it's not 'utter shit'.

Did I say that any manufacturer said you can only lose 20%? I did not.

onlinedoctor.asda.com/uk/why-am-i-not-losing-weight-on-mounjaro.html

Yes, but you have conflated an average loss over a particular period of time with some sort of limit.

Which it isn't, nor does the trial data state that, nor does the trial data imply that.

This is how myths start, by people adding a bit to something because it makes sense in their heads or whatever.

And since TDEE is dependant on weight it will of course change (decrease) as you lose weight. OP is not in that position.

I don’t understand the reaction either. It wasn’t was I had in mind, tbh.
I’ve got what I need out of it now. Plus a load of other stuff I didn’t need which really capped off my weigh in day yesterday. The rest is just others arguing about other stuff.

I think op has a distorted view of things. Re calories.

My fundamental diet is not that bad, but I also know how quickly calories add up, more than you think. Plus I resent the fact that I am very small, so probably need a lot less calories than I actually want to consume, as a basic.

Did op say somewhere she was only consuming 2000 calories? Did I read that in one of the posts? I bet she's not! I bet it's a lot more than that.

I think it’s about 400 cal . No it's probably 800+
each meal about 600-800 cal - 1000-1200
snack and drinks 200 probably 400-500

Plus all the other bits you just don't recognise, remember, underestimate.

Yeah you’re right. Let’s use your logic-
200cal protein bar - they must be lying on the packet so let’s say 400 cals
Two tablespoons of yogurt - well it says 100g is 93cals and two tablespoons is about 50g so let’s say 200 cals for that.
strawberries and blackberries- well if my breakfast is 800 cal by your measurements they must be 200 cal. Unless the bar cals are accurate and then I must be eating 400 cals of fruit. Those are fatty strawberries you know?

And lunch - well the here’s the thing I eat from Leon if I don’t bring in food from home https://leon.co/menu/brazillian-black-bean/

and they must be lying too then. Unless I accidentally eat two and don’t notice.

and homemade hummus salad wraps are known to be a thousand calories at least. Everyone knows that, don’t they?

so yeah, you’re obviously right. 🙄

So then your tdee isn’t 2200. Because you cannot get round the fact if you’re gaining you’re eating more than your tdee. That is a simple indisputable fact.

Ok then.
I don't know why you were overweight in the first place.

If her cals are right and she’s not consuming extra at some point over the week in terms of picking or snacks or drinks, then the only explanation for gaining right now is her tdee is way lower than she thinks.

and obvs to become obese you need to be consuming an awful lot more previously than she is currently.

I’m fat, because like most people who have a full time job and kids, I haven’t always had time to do all the things you need to do to not be fat.

oh don’t be daft. “most people” 😒

breakfast - Greek yogurt, fruit, protein bar (weekends is toast)
lunch - pasta and vegetables and cheese on top/brown rice veg
snack - biscuit fruit
dinner - cheese salad sandwich or hummus and salad wrap. Jacket potato and beans, Quorn bolognaise, bean chilli and rice

• two cups of tea a day, one decaf coffee.

Diet Coke with lunch. Water in evening.All day at least 2 litres.

how much do you have to lose?

Jesus

this thread is insane

all the fat people telling another fat person that they are a bit shit

we’re all fat for a reason, some of us binge, some of us don’t, but what we all have in common is that we overeat and are fat

now I don’t have that answer to all these obsessive diet tips but I do know that if you eat less than you need you will lose weight and the mounjaro enables me to do that and presumably all those preaching at the OP

the mounjaro stops me from eating too much, I could eat 4 wispas a day and still lose weight, however I couldn’t physically do that whereas without the mounjaro I most certainly could and would add in a side of pizza

to the OP - persevere and up the doses till the mounjaro kicks in, it will and then you can eat exactly the same diet as now but be unable to finish it and will reduce your portion size accordingly without feelings of hunger

it almost certainly will come, it is unlikely that you won’t be responsive to the drug, at least give it a chance

i personally wish you well

What a nasty load of responses OP has had just for asking a simple question. Her diet isn't terrible and is in fact quite normal. Not perfect but whose is? She's not eating excessive calories. She's trying to do what she can with the time and energy she has and is being realistic about her diet. Not many people will survive on 1000 calories a day when off WLI. Start as you mean to go on seems a sensible approach to me.