Death linked to Mounjaro

[suki1964]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6jg6nw2zeo

I am in no way knocking anyone who is using these drugs, seriously if I could use them I would. However Im throwing this up here because these drugs have only been tested and deemed safe on a small study - those who's BMI is above 30.

You're backtracking now. So you just enjoy throwing out the phrase "cult of Mounjaro fanatasists" in a thread about WLI when you're not even posting about the thread you're on. Seems bizarre but not surprising that some posters just love to have a stick to beat people on this med with just for fun and giggles.

My comment was a general musing on the attitude of society. Of course nobody has said they lied here. Not backtracking.

No I’m not assuming that overweight people and myself are poorly educated. Just that the quality of education we receive is poor. It changes all the time.

I have some examples earlier. Drink wine it’s good for you. Don’t drink wine. Count calories. Do the atkins diet. No wait… eat Mediterranean. Eggs are great. No eggs raise cholesterol. Etc etc etc

Ok. I will leave you all to your injecting then.

Always find it strange, when on an anonymous forum people seem brave enough to try and insult people but not back it up.

Absolutely backtracking.

People eat too much, of the wrong foods and don't exercise enough. The huge increase in cars on the road over the last few years for instance.

I do think it should not be available through pharmacists.

Yes I agree. The diet industry is a mess and making bigger messes.

Companies like slimming world and Atkins etc have done a number on people. And that needs looking at. That doesn’t make the use Weight loss injections any better or worse.

Still not relevant.

Poor diet could be impacting mental health. It definitely contributed to mine.

Celebs obtain all sorts of medication. So do normal people. People die while taking antidepressants correctly. People die taking them incorrectly.

All the examples you gave apply to antidepressants AND weight loss injections. So it’s no different.

A good idea finally. Try not to make offhanded comments about people being in a cult just because they're constantly talking about a life-changing (for them) product or service on a board that's meant for them to do just that. You might have to back up that insulting accusation when you do.

But if it went through a GP or specialist. People would be berating fat people for costing the NHS. For taking up appointments. It would require going through the obesity pathway that takes a long time.

People taking this can’t win. At least this way people are self funding and not taking up appointments. If people choose to be idiots and go through someone that isn’t doing it responsibly or lie to get hold of medication I think they need to take responsibility for those decisions.

I would like to see some pharmacists tighten their process though.

The victim mentality on here! Just take the drug and enjoy being slim while it lasts!

Another silly shitpost for fun and giggles. No one should be taking these people seriously tbh.

It's a totally legitimate news story?

She died of pancreatitis which can be caused by any form of extreme weight loss, sad it has happened and she was on MJ, but it could happen on slimming world/cambridge/fast 800/orlistat etc.

More than likely could have been gallstones blocking the bile duct causing pancreatitis.

What about another non-essential medication that millions of women CHOOSE to take every year despite the risk? I am talking about birth control.

We could all get by with caps & condoms after all. We could even simply say No to sex. We could choose to only have sex when we wish to get pregnant. We could choose to have sex and knowingly gamble that we will get away without getting pregnant this time. We could gatekeep our vaginas in all sorts of ways that do not involve what so many of us actually do, which is take synthetic hormones which have a small risk of death.

We make an informed choice, weighing the pros and cons. Many women refuse to take hormonal contraceptives at all, but oddly enough, here on a forum for women, I never see them berating other women for taking the 'easy option'.

I don't understand your point? If restricted diet and exercise worked, you would be at your goal weight. By your own admission you are yo-yoing, and you've not reached a healthy weight despite moving more and eating less.
I completely respect that you personally don't want to use injections to lose your excess weight. But I don't understand your objection to anyone else using it - in the same way that it would be really bizarre if I objected to you losing weight with reduced calories and exercise. It doesn't affect me at all, so I don't have any reason to even form an opinion on you doing it.

The hate towards fat people is as real and palpable as any other bigotism. It feels so justified by those that despise fat people and their perceived lack of self control & greed, that posters are quite open in posting about it and deriding it. I would wager that those same posters would rather cut their tongues out than be publicly exposed as being racist or disablist or homophobic or any other exactly similar bigotism.

And yet, here they are in thread after thread openly displaying their shitty, foul, disgusting interiors & thought processes because they feel safe, 'cos fatties don't count. Fatties are OTHER. Fatties did it to themselves and DESERVE it. Fatties are not human.

Well, we SEE you. This is who you are.

@PepsiMaxandPringleStacks Exactly. What I take away from this is that any extreme weight loss strategy does need to be carefully monitored.

Perhaps it would be a good idea for patients to have some tests done before starting on a weight loss drug? The article says that she sought medical advice-and as a nurse she’d have more medical knowledge than most ppl- but perhaps it’s advisable to have some blood tests, for example, which can help detect pancreatitis?

I’m just thinking aloud of ways to reduce risks.

Sometimes, when I am feeling more generous than usual, I do wonder of these people don’t actually realise that their negative thoughts around WLI is just actually their bigotry towards fat people.

Look at the comments here such as ‘enjoy it while it lasts’. Who says that? Who enters a discussion just to tell people ‘you will get fat again’.

I would guess they don’t do it on slimming work threads. I wonder why?

And it is simply their dislike of fat people that makes them do it.

I wouldn’t dream of going on a thread discussing a medication that’s helping people live a healthier and happier lifestyle and telling those people ‘enjoy it now. You won’t be healthy forever. It’s definitely going to come back’

I mean who does that? Especially, when they have no knowledge of the medication.

I sometimes don’t think they even realise why they have such a reaction to it, until you start questioning them and they then have to back track.

Either that or they are supremely unhappy people.

Also @Froggerz what on earth is your issue with the discount code? Why do you care how much we pay for the medicine - it's not taking any discounts away from you?

I came here to read more about this but I think I will back quietly away.

Strikes me that what we need to know is why a supposedly healthy but obese woman died 2 weeks after taking a properly prescribed, non-therapeutic dose of Mounjaro, presumably before she'd even lost much weight. We know what she died of but not the link with MJ. Was it causal or incidental? If causal, what are the implications for the thousands of us now taking WLM? Presumably an inquest will reveal more. This is the only thing that matters to me. The rest is just hot air and bigotry. It has nothing to do with the tragedy but is being used as an excuse to come online and spout unsubstantiated nonsense about obesity. Interesting that none of the outraged seem to be even the slightest bit interested in why this poor woman has lost her life.

You don't need to know anything, her health is not your business.
Her death is really sad. However plenty of people die from obesity-related illnesses every day. Sometimes suddenly. They don't get in the papers.

Interesting that none of the outraged seem to be even the slightest bit interested in why this poor woman has lost her life.

They don't need to know - all they needed to see was 'Mounjaro' or 'WLI' somewhere in the story and they started foaming at the mouth in glee, tripping over themselves to come tell us how "it will all end badly" and we should "enjoy it while it lasts". Spreading useless information and doom-mongering for fun.

@TheGoingGetsEasyAfterItGetsTough
Yes I agree. Rubbing their thighs with the excitement of it all. Gross victim blaming.
@Haroldwilson
I'm a bit puzzled by your response. Of course I'm interested in the relationship between her death and MJ - I've been taking MJ for 6 months. Clearly I don't expect to read her medical notes but I have a personal stake in this and the inquest findings will be made public. They may impact on prescribing rules, sharing of medical records between private prescribers and GPs, future research, etc, etc. Caring about her death doesn't mean I don't care about the thousands who die from obesity related illnesses, including members of my own family. What a strange take on my post...