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suki1964 · 2024-11-08T01:18:35+00:00

[[https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6jg6nw2zeo https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6jg6nw2zeo]] I am in no way knocking anyone who is using these drugs, seriously if I could use them I would. However Im throwing this up here because these drugs have only been tested and deemed safe on a small study - those who's BMI is above 30.

WhiteLily1 · 12/11/2024 08:42

amoreoamicizia · 08/11/2024 11:52

I mean a generation ago there were no computers in common use.

It's much longer than a generation ago.

No it wasn’t?
a generation is 25 years. 1999.
I was 16 in 1994 so 30 years ago and I can tell you then computers were not in common use.
i didn’t have one at home and neither did anyone I know. There were 2 in the school library and that was about it!

SunQueen24 · 12/11/2024 09:00

Relaxedandchilled · 12/11/2024 05:58

I’m not sure I agree, many of us can talk to our doctors, I did, before starting this, I understand getting an appt can be difficult though, and that just goes to prove you can’t deprive people of life saving medicine due to the fact it would take so so many gp resources to manage the demand,

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You can see a private GP for £50 within the hour.

Pyjamatimenow · 12/11/2024 09:19

Wednesdaysdrag · 12/11/2024 08:21

12 cases in the same area is a point of interest. But it seems a bit confused. It says 16 cases of people hospitalised, 12 in that area. So is the 16 UK wide? As 16 doesn’t seem that many compared to other claims of people being admitted in droves to A&E

Or is it 16 in Scotland or UK wide, with gall bladder or pancreas issues? And 12 with, specifically, gall bladder/ pancreas issues in that health area. Or is it 16 and 12 all admitted with different issues.

Also, it seems these 12 are spread over several months. I don’t think the fact that 12 in one health area over several months will point to a supply chain issues or batch issue. Unless all have had it subscribed by the same provider. But I would have expected far more cases, if it was that provider and wide spread. I don’t think there’s many providers that only supply to their immediate area. So if it was a supply chain or batch issue, the health area wouldn’t be that much of a focus.

I would have also expected an announcement of a batch number telling people not to use that batch, if they traced 12 people being ill and one dead to one batch or one provider.

It’s all a bit vague. I did see part of an interview on This morning that suggested she had gall stones, but wasn’t clear whether she knew this before she started taking MJ.

Also she was severely dehydrated when she got to hospital. The doctor on the segment on This Morning, was talking about how important it is to keep hydrated when taking these medications. And it’s odd that the press has gone quite on this since the interview with her nieces and the doctor.

I haven’t seen all of it, though, and will look tonight.

This is a problem I’ve had. The lack of thirst. You have to really remind yourself to drink

Wonkypictureframe · 12/11/2024 13:39

WhiteLily1 · 12/11/2024 08:42

No it wasn’t?
a generation is 25 years. 1999.
I was 16 in 1994 so 30 years ago and I can tell you then computers were not in common use.
i didn’t have one at home and neither did anyone I know. There were 2 in the school library and that was about it!

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I started work in 1999. I used a computer all day. I'd say those years from 1995 to 2000 saw the mass introduction of them in offices as the internet developed so fast at that time.

KrankyKumquat · 12/11/2024 14:01

Wonkypictureframe · 12/11/2024 13:39

I started work in 1999. I used a computer all day. I'd say those years from 1995 to 2000 saw the mass introduction of them in offices as the internet developed so fast at that time.

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Completely off topic but loving the nostalgia! Remember the release of Windows 95 in 1995 and Windows 98 in 1998? Revolutionary. I started my first 'proper' job in around 1994 and the admin staff were given desktop PCs (black screen, green writing?) but were hugely resistant, hid their manual typewriters and whipped them out when the boss left the building. I took a laptop home for a weekend to play with once, without realising I also needed a phone line for dial up!

Demjay · 12/11/2024 14:06

GreyMember · 11/11/2024 12:32

Stop eating refined carbohydrates and your hunger will disappear because your body's natural signals will be restored. It is also very difficult to put on weight if you don't eat refined carbohydrates. You will also have an improved mood as refined carbs also dysregulate serotonin.

I warned against the extreme dangers of this medication some months ago. You need to understand that there is no long term data on this medication and just because you aren't dropping dead of multiple organ failure right away does not mean you are safe.

Stop fetishizing food and eat as you evolved to eat. I know it can be hard given that there is an entire industry around it but you have to. Big pharma loves obese people, it makes trillions from selling drugs for all of your ailments. Many of them (BP medications for example) do nothing aside from artificially bringing health markers down which long term do not even increase your lifespan.

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Stop fetishizing food and eat as you evolved to eat

oh thank you, if only we had all thought of that 😂😂

Relaxedandchilled · 12/11/2024 15:15

Wednesdaysdrag · 12/11/2024 08:21

12 cases in the same area is a point of interest. But it seems a bit confused. It says 16 cases of people hospitalised, 12 in that area. So is the 16 UK wide? As 16 doesn’t seem that many compared to other claims of people being admitted in droves to A&E

Or is it 16 in Scotland or UK wide, with gall bladder or pancreas issues? And 12 with, specifically, gall bladder/ pancreas issues in that health area. Or is it 16 and 12 all admitted with different issues.

Also, it seems these 12 are spread over several months. I don’t think the fact that 12 in one health area over several months will point to a supply chain issues or batch issue. Unless all have had it subscribed by the same provider. But I would have expected far more cases, if it was that provider and wide spread. I don’t think there’s many providers that only supply to their immediate area. So if it was a supply chain or batch issue, the health area wouldn’t be that much of a focus.

I would have also expected an announcement of a batch number telling people not to use that batch, if they traced 12 people being ill and one dead to one batch or one provider.

It’s all a bit vague. I did see part of an interview on This morning that suggested she had gall stones, but wasn’t clear whether she knew this before she started taking MJ.

Also she was severely dehydrated when she got to hospital. The doctor on the segment on This Morning, was talking about how important it is to keep hydrated when taking these medications. And it’s odd that the press has gone quite on this since the interview with her nieces and the doctor.

I haven’t seen all of it, though, and will look tonight.

What claims of people being admitted in droves to a&e? I’ve not seen that anywhere, can you link? And yes the 16 is uk wide. It’s 16 in total on mounjaro with issues related. Most minor like nausea or the runs.

amd no one knows the details, clearly there will be an investigation, as whatever way you look at it, 12 of the 16 in one health trust is very odd, you’d expect a spread across the uk.

as to why that’s the case, no one knows. We will need to wait to find out. Did she have under lying issues, did she buy something dodgy from a non reputable source, none of us now.

Wednesdaysdrag · 12/11/2024 16:44

Relaxedandchilled · 12/11/2024 15:15

What claims of people being admitted in droves to a&e? I’ve not seen that anywhere, can you link? And yes the 16 is uk wide. It’s 16 in total on mounjaro with issues related. Most minor like nausea or the runs.

amd no one knows the details, clearly there will be an investigation, as whatever way you look at it, 12 of the 16 in one health trust is very odd, you’d expect a spread across the uk.

as to why that’s the case, no one knows. We will need to wait to find out. Did she have under lying issues, did she buy something dodgy from a non reputable source, none of us now.

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It’s claimed on threads here I have seen it claimed On social media. People claiming to be medical staff here saying people admitted regularly. Everyone seems to know someone who knows someone who has been admitted to hospital. verified doctors posting on social media saying they had ‘many’ people admitted. People posting and doing videos of them saying they were admitted.

I am not saying it’s fact. I don’t actually believe the a lot of the claims but it’s interesting to see official numbers as 16. I would have guessed more.

I think some of the mismatch of numbers maybe because there’s been a few people admitted due to taking knock off versions. Which won’t be in the official numbers but that bit often gets lost. And of course some are making it up.

And yes, that was my point. That we don’t know enough. Even the suggestion of 75% of hospital admissions in one area isn’t enough to suggest a batch issue or a fundamental issue with the medication. It’s interesting but not conclusive. There’s a lot of detail that’s missing which means, while interesting, it’s not really telling us anything.

This took me a while to write as I am at work, but If you google Mounjaro hospital admissions the times is reporting it’s ‘at least 16 Scottish people’, 12 in north Lanarkshire and 4 in greater Glasgow and Clyde. So doesn’t appear the 16 is an official number or UK wide.

Maybe other hospitals aren’t reporting in the same way. There’s so much detail lacking I don’t think the 12/16 really means much.

Relaxedandchilled · 12/11/2024 16:53

Wednesdaysdrag · 12/11/2024 16:44

It’s claimed on threads here I have seen it claimed On social media. People claiming to be medical staff here saying people admitted regularly. Everyone seems to know someone who knows someone who has been admitted to hospital. verified doctors posting on social media saying they had ‘many’ people admitted. People posting and doing videos of them saying they were admitted.

I am not saying it’s fact. I don’t actually believe the a lot of the claims but it’s interesting to see official numbers as 16. I would have guessed more.

I think some of the mismatch of numbers maybe because there’s been a few people admitted due to taking knock off versions. Which won’t be in the official numbers but that bit often gets lost. And of course some are making it up.

And yes, that was my point. That we don’t know enough. Even the suggestion of 75% of hospital admissions in one area isn’t enough to suggest a batch issue or a fundamental issue with the medication. It’s interesting but not conclusive. There’s a lot of detail that’s missing which means, while interesting, it’s not really telling us anything.

This took me a while to write as I am at work, but If you google Mounjaro hospital admissions the times is reporting it’s ‘at least 16 Scottish people’, 12 in north Lanarkshire and 4 in greater Glasgow and Clyde. So doesn’t appear the 16 is an official number or UK wide.

Maybe other hospitals aren’t reporting in the same way. There’s so much detail lacking I don’t think the 12/16 really means much.

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Yeah it’s bullshit. Do you seriously not think of folks were being admitted in droves to a&e it would never make the news, and that it’s been covered up so much even the times doesn’t know.

cmom, it’s just the anti jab folk making shit up.

Wednesdaysdrag · 12/11/2024 16:59

Relaxedandchilled · 12/11/2024 16:53

Yeah it’s bullshit. Do you seriously not think of folks were being admitted in droves to a&e it would never make the news, and that it’s been covered up so much even the times doesn’t know.

cmom, it’s just the anti jab folk making shit up.

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I know.

That was why I said ‘As 16 doesn’t seem that many compared to other claims of people being admitted in droves to A&E’

Rather than ‘As 16 doesn’t seem that many compared to numbers of people being admitted in droves to A&E in official reports’

Relaxedandchilled · 12/11/2024 17:00

So I think we can agree folks aren’t being admitted in droves to a&e. 😀

Pyjamatimenow · 12/11/2024 20:46

The thing is as well people do go to a&e for all sorts of crap not serious ailments. Wouldn’t surprise me if those on mounjaro did panic a bit and take themselves off if they had diarrhoea. I tried ozempic prior to mounjaro and let me tell you the diarrhoea on that was something else. Mounjaro I’ve only had the odd short lived episode