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Is anyone else freaked out

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georgarina · 01/01/2022 18:57

by how warm it is?

Passed someone in shorts this evening walking home.

It honestly gives me anxiety

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Mamanyt · 03/01/2022 01:06

Welcome to the Climate Crisis. I have been expecting it for the last few decades, just didn't know quite when.

ElftonWednesday · 03/01/2022 05:17

We have to learn to live with less. We have to accept less. As another poster said upthread, ration travel, feed local

The trouble is, everyone is told to accept less while the very rich are not doing that, at all, and if anything, climate change is being leveraged by them as an excuse to siphon off more cash from the masses. Capitalism is at fault, mind, not climate change.

Postdatedpandemic · 03/01/2022 06:33

What if we don't panic and do some thing instead. Raise awareness, accept we are on the cusp of being able maintain a liveable planet. Spreading knowledge to women is the best way to effect change.
We can all make changes, little ones and big ones plus we can keep speaking out.
www.un.org/actnow

In the UK we live on a little island at the edge of a big ocean, we have a lot of weather anomalies. Be happy you have saved a bit on fuel bills but also be reminded that action needs to be taken for the climate.

Is anyone else freaked out
Hmm1234 · 03/01/2022 10:21

Depends if they were wearing working out gear

Bluestream · 03/01/2022 11:39

Yes it was officially the warmest NY day on records! Is it really news ??? Scientist were trying to explain global warming to public for the past 20 years!

gravybones · 03/01/2022 11:46

One of the best analogies I heard about climate change in the U.K. was this. Imagine our climate is like someone holding onto the end of a rope and gently shaking it. It will gently undulate - you'll get highs and lows.

Now imagine that person starts shaking the rope violently. Your highs and lows will get higher and lower, and they'll come more frequently and with more force.

That's climate change.

We've always had oscillations in our weather - but those oscillations are becoming more extreme.

That's the U.K. because we experience Atlantic maritime weather. But our weather is entirely moderated by the jet stream which brings warmer temperatures to our island. One prediction is that the jet stream may shift, reverse or halt altogether. That could actually lead to the U.K. becoming a lot colder and dryer. It would be very different to the U.K. we know now.

What really terrifies me is the notion of tipping points. The melting of the icecaps will be utterly disastrous - and we are rapidly approaching a tipping point beyond which the melting will accelerate and be irreversible. Some predictions have us reaching that tipping point within a decade.

DottyHarmer · 03/01/2022 12:24

Ye-es, @TeaAndBiscuitsAndWine , but large families in the developing world are impactful as standards of living increase and infant mortality is lessened. I saw a study and people are not having fewer children commensurate with an improvement in lifestyle.

So for example in China (although one or two child policy previously in place) people began to want to eat more meat, drive cars etc etc. one product that has gone through the roof in sales is disposable nappies. And why not? Why should the West have developed and now nowhere else allowed to? But we have to face the unpalatable fact that our planet is going to become very, very crowded with a fight for resources including water and a clement climate.

Cocoabutterformula · 03/01/2022 13:52

I think on the whole population is decreasing esp in the Western world. Africa is the only continent where it's still increasing. David Attenborough has it spot on when he talks about educating women to decrease birth rates. Not much help right now as we approach 8 billion - god what a scary number
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Postdatedpandemic · 03/01/2022 13:57

Luckily there is a simple effective way to lower the birth rate in developing countries - give women a high school education.

MelissaRainbow · 03/01/2022 14:45

Don’t look up

LittleRoundRobin · 03/01/2022 17:38

[quote lifeinlimbo2020]@LittleRoundRobin concise and to the point. I love you. [/quote]
Wow, thank you Blush

I do get a bit of hard time for going against the grain on here, so that is appreciated thank you @lifeinlimbo2020 Smile

positivevibesonly22 · 03/01/2022 17:41

@LittleRoundRobin 😚 I rarely comment as a lot of it winds me up (especially similar threads about bloody Covid/Omicron/Coronavirus/#commoncoldformostvaccinatedpeople) but it was a 'what she said' kind of moment 🤣

positivevibesonly22 · 03/01/2022 17:42

@LittleRoundRobin ..... thread prompted a name change too in case you're confused.

LittleRoundRobin · 03/01/2022 19:26

[quote positivevibesonly22]@LittleRoundRobin ..... thread prompted a name change too in case you're confused. [/quote]
I wondered what was going on! Grin

Twillow · 03/01/2022 19:46

@ShabsLovesTiff

No not freaking out or complaining so chill out you prob all complain If it was also freezing too weather is unpredictable especially British weather that I will never understand and have more important things to worry about
I don't understand people who don't even use Y2 level punctuation. I don't think it's more important than utter ignorance about the difference between daily variations in weather and a climate trend though.
TeaAndBiscuitsAndWine · 03/01/2022 22:04

Fair point @DottyHarmer, I guess as some other pps have said, education of women is key

Dibbydoos · 03/01/2022 23:18

[quote LampLighter414]@froobie it's so freaky isn't it. I'm sure someone will try to claim that global warming nonsense.[/quote]
Your comment made me laugh. Do you know it actually took only 2 decades to go from odd weather to ice age? Did you know most mass extinctions have been due to climate change? Did you know the temp increase we are seeing is the fastest ever recorded/,computed? Climate change is real, argue the toss about the cause but it doesn't take a genius to work out that fossil fuels were laid down over millenia and have bee burned over a few decades. All that CO2 is obviously gonna cause an env imbalance and planetary warming. Did you know we are the last generation who can stop climate change?

Personally I'd rather do my utmost to stop it than think about my kids/their kids living horrendous lives beyond 2100 than be an ostrich.

gravybones · 04/01/2022 12:05

I feel totally helpless and hopeless about it though

I don't think our individual actions such as recycling or using less energy will make the slightest difference, they're a tiny drop in he ocean.

We need some serious top down action. Not just increasing renewable energy production, but sweeping changes to our fuel use (home heating, how our cars run, how planes are fuelled), big changes to our consumption of goods and food (an end to ridiculous food miles, return to domestic food growing).

Our lives will change significantly one way or another.

Hopefully by being forced to change now by governments we will slow down the global heating (it's too late to stop it).

However if government fails to implement these changes, tipping points will be reached, the world as we know it will change and we will experience change regardless.

CrankyFrankie · 04/01/2022 18:12

To all of the inflammatory/ignorant simpletons, it is very easy to educate yourselves these days with readily accessible information from reputable sources. For example, NASA, New Scientist, Scientific American, bbc.

It's commonly cited and ubiquitous fact that ALL BUT ONE of the nearly-20 hottest years on record have occurred since the year 2000.

Taken just now from the Guardian from a very quick google:

"The world’s seven hottest years on record have now all occurred since 2014, with the 10 warmest all taking place in the last 15 years. There have now been 44 consecutive years where global temperatures have been above the 20th-century average."

www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/14/2020-hottest-year-on-record-nasa

but don't let that stop you 'remembering' a warmer day during your childhood and using that to deny the expertise of almost 100% of the world's scientists (essentially all of them minus the ones bankrolled by the oil companies).

Morons.

JaneJeffer · 04/01/2022 19:46

You've got the right username there @CrankyFrankie

KangSaeByeok · 04/01/2022 21:09

@JaneJeffer some people really care that if we do nothing we will totally fuck up the planet for our kids/grandkids not to mention the global South who, to be fair, we have already fucked:

www.theguardian.com/world/video/2021/nov/09/tuvalu-minister-gives-cop26-speech-while-standing-in-the-sea-video

Cocoabutterformula · 04/01/2022 23:24

JaneJeffer

Still determined to act the ignorant fool I see Hmm

JaneJeffer · 04/01/2022 23:35

You seem convinced I'm an actor @Cocoabutterformula Grin However I haven't said anything ignorant on this thread.

Comedycook · 05/01/2022 11:49

It's bloody freezing this morning in London if that reassures anyone Grin

Gonnagetgoing · 05/01/2022 14:27

@Comedycook

It's bloody freezing this morning in London if that reassures anyone Grin
@Comedycook - you are right - it is/was freezing in London this morning.

I saw snow is predicted for Scotland/north england which I hope stays in Scotland as off to Cairngorms for third week January.

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