Anyone else like a mystery?

[EverythingIsAwesome]

The case of Elisa Lam fascinates me.

vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/mysterious-case-elisa-lam/

The poor girl obviously went through "something" before her death. She was found in the rooftop water tank above a LA hotel. Her clothes were never found, the CCTV is creepy and her family will likely never have the answers :(

What do you make of it? Any mysteries that also fascinate you?

But the weird thing is, she definitely died by drowning. So she was still alive when put into the tank. There was also commentary that it would be nigh on impossible to carry an unconscious body up to the water tank and open the lid. Baffling.

I read her clothes were found in the tank as well, but not on her. Can't find the source of that, now.

Maybe the person she was flirting with dared her to get in the tank. But why? I need to get a grip.

Marking place to read later . . .

This thread is starting to get to me though - laid in bed last night worrying about my children.

Me too. We have been really lax with locking our back door (no street access, high fence around garden and our dog is always out the back and he would bark if anyone was there) and I am keeping it locked now. Also been going over every possible "weak point" we have in our daily activities to see if there would be any opportunity for someone to take them.

They are still really young too. Dreading when they are older and I have to let them go out with friends etc.

everythingisawesome - Norma Howieson disappeared from North Queensferry in the 60s. Her shoes and bag were found on a local pier but no trace of her. The police had divers out a few times but nothing. Apparently a man in a green Humber Hawk car was seen watching the divers from a distance but was never identified. Her family were strict Jehovah's Witnesses and there were rumours that she had run away, but nobody really knows anything.

I can never find anything about her either and think it's sad that someone can just vanish like that.

Place marking for now. Going to watch the video when I'm in public

Joan Risch in America, in 1961:

www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/risch_joan.html

Sent her little daughter to play at the neighbours', put her toddler down for a nap, was later seen outside looking dazed, then vanished. There was blood in the house but not enough for a serious injury, phone book open to page of emergency numbers, and phone thrown in the bin. She had also taken out a lot of library books on people who'd mysteriously disappeared, so there are theories she staged it herself and just left. But I find it hard to believe she'd have led her 4-year-old to discover blood on the walls and her mother missing.

I've been watching the Elisa Lam video and several things struck me...

She was not scared. Definitely not. Perhaps a touch frustrated when she comes back in to fiddle with the buttons for the last time, but there's no actual anxiety that I can see.

When she first goes in, she seems to be expecting someone else to join her - if she was travelling on her own in the lift, I think she'd stand in the middle in the front of the doors. What she actually does is stand in the corner by the wall - I do this when I am making room for someone else.

Darting out for a quick look seems to be done in a flirty, lighthearted way. She immediately looks to her right, so she's expecting them to come from that direction...which is not the direction she herself has come from.

When she "hides" in the corner near the buttons, it doesn't seem to be prompted by fear. She even seems at smile at one point. I think she was planning to say "Boo" to someone coming in.

When she's standing outside the lift, she seems to be preening in the mirror that's opposite. She raises her arms to lift her hair, classic flirtation moves.

I am convinced she was either playing hide and seek with someone, or thought she was.

Whether there was a actual real person there, or she was imagining them, I have no idea. But I am certain that's what she was doing.

Poor thing, whatever happened - murder, suicide or accident - she must have really suffered.

Who are the two unidentified children from the Charfield rail disaster in 1928?

Why did no one come forward to claim them?

Japan's Sea of Forest fascinates me - no wildlife despite its immense size, compasses behave erratically. It is also the most popular place in Japan to commit suicide.

^Sea of Trees even

Sea of forest is interesting, but it says in the article you linked to that wild animals often get to the remains before the police, so it seems there is wildlife.

The Charfield disaster is so sad those poor children. Some realy sad ones on here :(

Sorry, yes, not completely absent but not as you would expect. Different link

Almost, that Alistair Wilson case is very strange. In particular, I wonder what he and his wife spoke about before he went back to the front door, and why the details of that conversation have never been released. I just can't fathom what went on there.

There are a few mysteries on here that I cant stop thinking about :(

Same here Awesome.

For every missing person, unsolved murder or unexplained death, there's a family out there who NEED answers.That's what I keep thinking about.

On a lighter note Awesome, your username is the best song EVER!

The 'boy in the box' has haunted me. Can't do links. Sad and upsetting mind you. Also the Lindbergh baby. I wonder what really was the truth. I have my doubts about how it all panned out. So sad, but soooo intruiging.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Dunbar_disappearance

This is an interesting read too.

just read the wikipedia page about the Boy in the Box valrhona - deeply sad, made very real by the pictures they used on the poster to ID him :(

Boy in the Box is sad. he appears to have been well cared for before he died, so why was there no claim to him? :(

Wow, two young children, placed with a grieving family that was not their own family.

I'm not woo but am always intrigued by a good scary story thread. Wondering the whys and wherefores and what ifs etc.

What really gets to me about these stories though is that someone, somewhere always knows the real answer of what happened (or knew the answer and took it to the grave with them). Probably, in lots of these cases, more than one person knows/knew too.

In the case of the Charfield train disaster I mentioned up thread, just why were these children not claimed? Was it because a family didn't want any ensuing publicity associated with them or their family?

Probably someone who was rich enough or influential enough to suppress the connection. But why?

Someone knew and given that according to eyewitnesses a 'woman in black' visited the graves for many many years the secret will have been passed on to others (eyewitnesses tell of a woman being driven in a black car)

I mean someone drove her to the graveyard, they must have known why.

What was the two children placed with a family story? I've just had a small medical procedure which might result in me being up tonight, is it terrible that when the doc told me that, my first thought was that I could go through this list and read all the links?