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Scumble · 20/12/2020 16:27

Where the dickens has it gone? Is it gone gone? Has it been renamed and I just can't find it?

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Littlejackhorner1 · 29/12/2020 20:30

@Bebinn I’m glad you agave that explanation. I do know who you are now. I never could understand your TES username but it all makes sense now.

Bebinn · 29/12/2020 20:49

@PriscillaChinchilla

I don't think I'd pay to use any website, tbh. I understand the reasoning behind it, but nope.
I’d pay the £20pa suggested (probably willing to go to £24pa - £2pm) but wouldn’t subscribe at £5-£7pm. Considering that’s a similar amount (or more) than services like, for example, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Audible, Apple TV etc. I think it would feel like too much to many people. Perhaps the suggestions of basic and premium access choices might work.
Hexadelica · 29/12/2020 20:49

@ilovesooty

I have received a reply in line with information posted earlier in this thread. Community is a separate platform needing critical work to make it compliant with the rest of TES and they are currently trying to gauge the timescale. They apologise for any inconvenience. Hmm
Thank you ilovesooty. Just to update, as I said at the beginning of the thread I contacted the TES help desk and they gave me the reply quoted above. They were really quite quick to respond. I then replied again with the question "are the forums going to be reinstated?" and this time no reply, so I guess the answer is probably not. I do not think the issue, as suggested, is with some terrible posting, more that those now invested in the site do not have an interest in critical discussion, which undermines their aims. In particular is the burgeoning News Feed which features...well, I wont say what I really think...very bland and party line stuff. Trending at the moment is the question of whether schools should reopen in January. It's a newbie vanilla party line piece, and has me chomping at the bit to say my piece on the forums. Of course TES don't want to support this sort of discussion. They are "partnered" with the DfE and have numerous other sponsors to please. if you want to submit a piece for their site you need to sign up and be approved as one of their news writers or bloggers. Largely unpaid, I might add. In short the forum did not fit the editorial brief. The good news is that if you good people still wish to say something you can comment on a piece, and you can like others' comments. However it operates by Facebook Plugin, meaning there are more obstacles and filters on what you post. Interestingly, I have yet to see any comments on there which completely disparage a piece, hmmmmm. So yeah, we've been silenced!

It's lovely to see so many of you here, I'm not joking.

Bebinn · 29/12/2020 20:58

@Myothercarisalsoshit

Hi Tessers, I am a regular also. I've had lots of fun on TES over the years and found people to be (mostly) kind and helpful. It would be a real shame if it was gone forever. I posted before Christmas about problems with my son and his mental health and people were really helpful. He's doing OK, still on the secure unit and Christmas has been quiet and peaceful - just catching our breath really. Lots of love to you all x
That’s really positive news about your son. I hope knowing he’s safe and getting the care he needed has also helped you to relax a bit over the Christmas period and feel less stressed. I recall how worried you said you were about his next steps as he was considering sofa surfing with friends.
Bebinn · 29/12/2020 21:00

[quote Littlejackhorner1]@Bebinn I’m glad you agave that explanation. I do know who you are now. I never could understand your TES username but it all makes sense now.[/quote]
Bet you could take a fairly accurate guess at my RL name now too Grin

SantaAssociationRepresentitve · 29/12/2020 21:01

shame I found some of the posters on the retirement section very informative with regards options etc

ReggieStration · 29/12/2020 21:25

@Bebinn "Could it be to do with dabbling in the dangerous dark arts by any chance? "

Dangerous dark arts? No - more the H Potter variety.... t'was RepelloInimicum Smile

Bebinn · 29/12/2020 21:39

When I was first searching for a way to access the Community forum, before realising it was blocked, I noticed the myriad of TES newsfeed articles too @Hexadelica

I remember noting the irony of the articles near the top at the time advising teachers to keep in touch with friends & colleagues online over the holidays if they couldn’t get out much due to COVID restrictions or see family. eg. ‘5 ways to support colleagues who are alone’. ‘Using tech to tackle loneliness this Christmas’. Yeah, cheers for that TES Hmm

Bebinn · 29/12/2020 21:39

[quote ReggieStration]@Bebinn "Could it be to do with dabbling in the dangerous dark arts by any chance? "

Dangerous dark arts? No - more the H Potter variety.... t'was RepelloInimicum Smile[/quote]
Ahhhhh. I’m not a very good guesser Blush

ThevoiceofRosie · 29/12/2020 21:52

.... eg. ‘5 ways to support colleagues who are alone’. ‘Using tech to tackle loneliness this Christmas’. Yeah, cheers for that TES hmm

I agree, Bebinn. 🍰

Neededabreak · 29/12/2020 21:55

Ooh *waves excitedly at Jamvic, the other person who loves that cake as much as me :)

Neededabreak · 29/12/2020 22:03

Very helpful feedback. To be fair I'm not envisaging a high rate, more of a baseline gesture of being invested and perhaps to cover some very basic costs, at the moment the server could cope with a few posters but a rethink will be needed if it's a success but be definition if it's a success the rethink re servers/paid mods will be sorted... does that make sense? That said I need to consult the tech person for an idea of prices and at the moment they are donating time working on this gratis *phew, wipes sweated brow.

Myothercarisalsoshit · 29/12/2020 22:05

Thanks everyone for the good wishes.
Yes it does seem like TES have washed their hands of us.
How fucking rude!

mantlepiece · 29/12/2020 22:06

Yes, I agree with hex.
Conflict of interest. Political hot potatoes everywhere on the forum.

Over the last month or so posters were reporting quite worrying anecdotes about the chaos in many schools. Quite chilling that discussion around quite valid concerns could have led to the demise of such a useful source of knowledge and support.

Neededabreak · 29/12/2020 22:19

@mantlepiece

Yes, I agree with hex. Conflict of interest. Political hot potatoes everywhere on the forum.

Over the last month or so posters were reporting quite worrying anecdotes about the chaos in many schools. Quite chilling that discussion around quite valid concerns could have led to the demise of such a useful source of knowledge and support.

Oops I keep forgetting to quote in my responses... Takes me quite a long time to get used to things :/

In response to the above, crumbs... nothing like being ignored... actually more like gagged... *thankfully hearing muffled noises from the mums place.

Hexadelica · 29/12/2020 22:29

@mantlepiece

Yes, I agree with hex. Conflict of interest. Political hot potatoes everywhere on the forum.

Over the last month or so posters were reporting quite worrying anecdotes about the chaos in many schools. Quite chilling that discussion around quite valid concerns could have led to the demise of such a useful source of knowledge and support.

Hmm. One poster wrote rather too much, of specific people being responsible for spreading Covid, of deaths in school specifically due to Covid, of Head Teachers blatantly ignoring cases. Some of it was made up, risibly unfeasible. A lot of it was alarmist. These were public forums, readable to anybody in a guest hat, so if anybody wanted to assess what was happening in schools, say, a random parent who wanted an insider view, then the forums could easily be used as evidence of the sort of pressure the public could use to lobby for schools remaining shut. There is literally nowhere else on the internet that I can see where teachers are telling it like it is in such a cohesive way. Perhaps the politicisation of the Covid situation was one reason to close. Who knows. Somebody from TES is reading this and laughing.
Foxyloxy1plus1 · 29/12/2020 22:31

I’m so pleased to hear you’ve had some respite myothercar. It was particularly worrying that the site disappeared just when you were getting some support, or at least, some listening ears.

When the posts reach 1000 on here, a new thread will have to be started I believe. It is good to know that some folk have found their way here.

Hexadelica · 29/12/2020 22:31

....need an edit function!

I did not mean alarmist pertaining to all the posts.
I just meant one specific poster who I thought was nuts.
Erudite, but nuts.

Foxyloxy1plus1 · 29/12/2020 22:33

There were certainly one or two posters whose aim appeared to be to make everything look as dreadful as possible. Earlier in the year, one of them was ‘spoken to’ by other posters, but it made no difference.

MumJudeFawley · 29/12/2020 22:35

Well! If TES isn't returning the Community forums under the same or very similar conditions to how they were, I'm not bothering to pursue it any further.

It's quite strange getting used to not checking in on the site after thirteen years of daily visits and countless hours of discussion and postings.

I keep finding new videos on YouTube of brilliant musicians and have to remind myself there's no more copy and paste to 'More Music' a thread I started a good few years ago. It must be about six years that thread was going.

Friends come and friends go but, seldom is a whole community closed down in one stroke with no notice.

Even so, I've always maintained that TES Personal and TES Opinion aren't owned by me and it's perfectly correct that the owners do as they wish.

On to other things now. One thing the closing down of TES Community has done is make me recognise yet again how I got here: living in this house, doing the work I'm doing etc.

When I first qualified, I travelled hundreds of miles to live in a ancient and unheated mobile home in order to secure six hours a week teaching in community education unaware I had to generate my own students. It came to nothing and set me on a course that leaves me back labouring and basically skint.

I can think of no other work in my life that has so impoverished me than teaching.

Twenty-five years ago, seeing the ad in the TES, I arrived out in the Fens with £7.00 in my pocket and a grotty mobile home on a traveller site to live in.

I think through all my struggles in education I have still retained that illusion that teaching is a good and honourable job.

I know it isn't and the whole set-up is as rotten as those racist violent factories and building sites I used to work on.

It's taught me a much deeper hatred of the middle classes. Their thin veneer isn't evident until you're in their midst. Education is rotten to the core. It's a great con and their insurance is to tell you it's better than not being educated. I totally disagree. I can think of few things worse in this life than becoming a teacher.

I was a fatal mistake I made and one I bailed out of after seven years. Once I stopped I also stopped drinking. If I'd have carried on teaching I would have drunk myself to death.

I believe I was a good teacher but, I met so many cowards and bullies in teaching I'll never regret leaving it. It's an horrendous environment: basically inhumane and damaging.

There's more honour in factories and building sites.

The enlightened who have got out and the retired are back being academics while those still practicing need to be avoided at all cost.

I find most teachers toxic.

Bebinn · 29/12/2020 22:50

@Neededabreak

Ooh *waves excitedly at Jamvic, the other person who loves that cake as much as me :)
How can anyone dislike a cake with such a refined name? Grin

Big wave right back at you NAB. So glad more & more people are finding their way here.

Bebinn · 29/12/2020 22:52

@Myothercarisalsoshit

Thanks everyone for the good wishes. Yes it does seem like TES have washed their hands of us. How fucking rude!
GrinGrin
Neededabreak · 29/12/2020 22:56

"Big wave right back at you NAB. So glad more & more people are finding their way here."

:) :) afraid I'm not getting the quote thing quite worked out out though.

ilovesooty · 29/12/2020 23:02

Was anyone else sent a survey by after contacting TES? I told them I wouldn't be recommending them until they put the forum back.

Bebinn · 29/12/2020 23:02

Seems weird not seeing * in the place of those terrible and subversive ‘grown up words’ Halo Grin

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