The Fourth Republic Rises - solidarity comrades!

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You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are not staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

I made a "death folder" with all my pension and will shit in. How horrible. I'm trying to be light touch and cool about it with my children but they are 12 and 13 and they realise it's dangerous. They are particularly anxious about my mum / their nan who lives with us.

I also had some lovely messages from parents today stressing how they won't be sending kids in and to keep safe. The school office got the other less supportive ones.

What i'm struggling with is the grey area. My union will rightly say to not do it. My academy trust will say sod you. My union will say "These people - that thing- etc" and my academy trust will just go "Meh". And there we are. I really miss being in an LEA.

We have asked for the Staffroom to be hidden from active but nothing has been so far

They have said that they tend to let people post wherever they like, if non teachers want to post here they can but they have sent a pointless peace and love message to nasty threads.

I would be extremely surprised if they hid us from active.

Commons3ns3 posted this elsewhere, it's eye-opening:

From the ONS stats released yesterday. Education staff deaths 361, nurses 127 deaths, police 39 deaths, bus drivers 79 deaths twitter.com/karamballes/status/1259835507057532929?s=21

This one?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3907253-Did-anyone-else-see-the-really-positive-news-about-primary-schools-reopening-on-BBC-this-morning-at-9am?msgid=96463391#96463391

Started by a frequent TB that one.

And other ‘forums’ on Mumsnet have been allowed to be hidden from Active. Being hidden from Active doesn’t stop people posting but it makes it less likely. Come on MNHQ...

Christ why the fuck are Mumsnet threatening to remove the only "relatively" safe space the teachers have around here... fucking priorities.

Thanks for that SallyLovesCheese

However, you would still get heartless TB posters whining that those stats can’t be proven.

Guess MN needs the clicks but it needs us as posters. The reason why those other threads get busy is because we fall for the bait every time. And I guess each busy thread may lead to more advertising revenue.

However I don’t think the peace and love messages actually work on threads and tend to be ignored

It's actually a mental health issue that they do make staffroom safer. We're all going to need it. Mumsnet HQ need a kick up the jacksie and a proper good teacher stare. Seriously, HQ.

I'm about done with Mumsnet to be honest, folks. I really don't need to be repeatedly made to feel shit about myself as a teacher. The relentless, nasty spite about teachers feels like constantly having to deal with the most vile of parents who say what they like whilst you have to remain professional. And it's every single fucking day on thread after thread. It's not possible to get support or suggestions from others. It's not possible to discuss worries about school. Some spiteful troll who knows fuck all about the job chips in with a nasty little dig to make it worse. I just genuinely think I'm getting nothing positive from this site and it's bad for my mental health.

I wonder if @LilyMumsnet posted just before she logged off for the night.

A post a run situation.

Either that or we toddle off to the mum's webpage fakeMN site or Tes

Has anyone else seen the stats?

I've checked the ONS but have found around 70 educational deaths relating directly to covid. This surely proves what we already knew - children will be as likely to spread it as adults?

I'll be sending the link to my exec head tomorrow.

www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=%2fpeoplepopulationandcommunity%2fhealthandsocialcare%2fcausesofdeath%2fdatasets%2fcoronaviruscovid19relateddeathsbyoccupationenglandandwales%2fcurrent/covid19byoccupationreferencetablesfinal10052020145723.xlsx

I might be reading it wrong. I may have had wine this evening...😬

If mn wants to stand by the battering and demoralising of keywotkers whilst threatening to close the one thread where staff are safe to support each other then... then I don’t know what really. Just disappointed.

The silence and peace and love business to all of these attacks feels like tacit support for what is essentially inciting hate against teachers.

This surely proves what we already knew - children will be as likely to spread it as adults?

Oh I already knew this. Since 30th April, I have called out many a TB poster with the recent proof that under 10s spread and contract Covid19 just as much, if not slightly more than adults do and yet every time, they ignore the post/evidence and just start again on a fresh new thread. Sigh.

Do these posters qualify as inciting hate? Obviously we’re not a protected group but I feel sure they wouldn’t stand by allowing multiple threads a day, with a number of repeat ad finitum offenders, inciting hate towards nurses.

Have they decided school workers (including those who earn less than 9k to support really challenging kids and those who serve dinners and those who clean or drive buses ie. not the white privileged middle class mass they treat us as) are fair targets?

Given you appear to be watching this thread it would be lovely if you could clarify mnhq. Perhaps there’s a way to pen a request signed by a collective of posters?

On the other hand maybe we do need a plan b in case this is deleted. Personally I’m really valuing being able to talk to and share info and support with other staff and if mn doesn’t want to host that I’d hate to lose it.

If we are deleted-let’s meet on the TES and make a plan B.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/actions-for-educational-and-childcare-settings-to-prepare-for-wider-opening-from-1-june-2020/opening-schools-for-more-children-and-young-people-initial-planning-framework-for-schools-in-england

Another one out.

Just picked this up in the Metro and wondered if any of you had been contributors to Mr P's thread?!

metro.co.uk/2020/05/12/someone-left-poo-floor-why-teachers-fear-social-distancing-nightmare-12691874/

I feel like a bit of a twat for sharing my original passion for teaching and thoughts about why teaching matters socially and ethically on the resignation thread but all of the shit on here really has made me see the contrast of what I felt and was able to do when I started out compared to what it’s been like in recent years and then compared to hearing what parents on here think of teachers and the purpose and value of their work.

I really do miss teaching but when I think about it it’s been a while since I’ve done real teaching and I’m more often too busy chasing my tail and logging behaviour on 3 different systems and marking endless tests in order to say which colour flight path student no.217 is on to actually be a teacher.

I really do miss teaching classes but it’s more than 7 weeks since I was allowed to really teach.

I don’t know that quitting teaching altogether is the answer but I definitely need to change things

@Appuskidu that document has to have been written by someone who has worked or works in an educational setting.

There's no way it's been written by the government on their own.

There are bits about SEN and catching up that are questionable but it actually makes sense and I don't say that lightly.

It also gives school the autonomy to say thanks but no thanks to opening I think. Sometimes heads just need something they can refer to in order to make decisive decisions and I think this may be the reason a number of schools don't open.

Excuse ignorance apps but how do we meet on tea?

Tes ffs. Technology does not always make things better! Auto correct is not good for blood pressure

Depends on the head. Like teachers they can be focused on doing a good job now in this job or they can be ambitious beyond giving a shit about what’s best for their kids, staff and community.