Why is the Coronation going to cost £100 million?

@00100001 Funded by the sovereign Grant not taxpayers money

Well, you'd better tell Wikipedia they got it wrong then....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronation_of_Charles_III_and_Camilla#:~:text=In%20November%202022%2C%20the%20government,for%20by%20the%20British%20government.

No one’s wrong? The Crown Estate profits go 75% to the British Government and 25% to the monarch. The British Government will be using some of that £225m they got from the Crown Estate profits to pay for the coronation. Whether the British Gov pay direct from the crown estates funds or reimburse the RF through the sovereign grant is neither here nor there, it’s all coming from the Crown Estate.

As pretty much all numbers you've provided on this thread have been incorrect I'd be interested to know where you got this information from.

It’s the Crowns money though, it’s not our money. It’s not public funds.
And since they send over £200m per year, every year that does go on public services Im not going to begrudge fronting money that will be more than offset by the TV rights income that goes into the same pot.

The coronation costs us nothing based on the links you posted and that includes giving everyone a full days wages by creating a Bank Holiday. So we can all party with a clear conscience, including the less well off as no money is being taken from any tax payer pockets.

I'm not wrong.

But let's pretend it's directly from your income tax.

And that "£100 million" could be spent on "better" causes.

UK government already spends £90+ bn on education. What is that £100m going to buy, realistically?

They spend c.£160bn on healthcare...£100m, what's it going on?

Would it be better spent on... Overseas aid? Or national debt? No wait these are 10s of billions of pounds as well.

In the grand scheme of things "£100m" is a drop ok the ocean...

ifs.org.uk/taxlab/taxlab-data-item/total-spending-and-spending-function-percentage-national-income-and-ps

I think most apologists for this coronation excess are under educated and celebrity obsessed. Just like the RF themselves. There is no reason anyone should be delighted to be a peasant and be entertained and waved at by Royalty in this day and age.

At least presidents are elected every few years, the RF is not, we do not have a choice. The US population is around 330 million now, so their president (elected) is representing far more people than a UK president would.

Anyway I hope you all enjoy waving your little flags and wearing red white and blue. Nice to have the day off that's for sure though.

I recently said on a thread that I wish we'd axe the royal family and was told they generate more money than they take.

I just want them gone. Our society is so unequal and the RF are representative of extreme inequality.

At least we can do maths 🧮
That part of our education seems to have been more advanced than those who are against the RF and coronation and think that £100m is £1bn, and misread $200m as $1m. Or don’t quite understand that -£100m in costs + (£100m + £x in TV rights)= £m in extra money for the public by having a coronation versus not having one at all.

So your opinion is based on classism rather than objective pragmatism. 🧐

And look what happens when you vote for the Head of State- you get Trump!

Jesus this again

For the hundredth time , the US is irrelevant - they combine PM and president into one role
And PS - he wa voted out !!

That's the bloody difference

@Onnabugeisha

Class is a perfectly valid argument . The royal family sit atop and reinforce the class system that has hampered this country
It is also linked to the corruption and old boys' network we see in the newspapers these days

What's your argument for keeping Andrew / Chuck / Willy Windsor ?
Because there is no justification for hereditary power and unearned wealth

'Because there is no justification for hereditary power and unearned wealth'.

In any circumstances or just the RF?

A lot of it will be security. Almost all of it either directly or indirectly will be jobs/work. Not doing it isna lost opportunity IMO. A pared down coronation would be the worst of both worlds.

@GloomyDarkness

The 'royals' do not own the crown estate . The name is just another lie / fudge swirling round this rotten lot

The concept of the crown as representing the state is what 'owns ' the estate
With the Windsors gone 100% goes to the state

Btw , the 25% the royals get is given by the government- it isn't the case that the royals are donating money to the state .
They don't own it

So in your eyes the government should seize everyone’s assets and estates upon their death?
No one can leave their families anything?

No thanks

But that's a discussion, surely. The UK could combine the two and then it's possible you'd have the likes of Boris Johnson/Liz Truss as HOS. Why have another layer of costs above. What's your criteria for a HOS? Elected? Who's eligible? Do they have to have National Treasure status? What's the role? How are they funded? Paid? What about the expenses of state? State visits, banquets, functions? Security? Do previous H'soS receive ongoing security?

@Coxspurplepippin

I don't care what the Windsors do once gone - I'm sure they will be extremely rich
They can pay an expensive lawyer to minimise their taxes / do whatever the ithe rich do

It get them away from public money and democratic processes

Novella4, sorry not sure which comment you're responding to.

The class system will always exist. There will always be people with more money than others. That's life.

@Coxspurplepippin

Good to see you preparing for the inevitable

It's not going well at all for Mr and Mrs Windsor is it ? And that with MSM doing all they can to influence the masses - that old playbook doesn't work so well any more and not all on the young

@Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious

Of course !

But you don't have to literally institutionalise unearned power !

Do you have any answers as to why an alternative HOS would be better.

So, you'll be donating your personal wealth to the neighbours cat then? Your kids won't get anything clearly. And obviously you refused/will refuse your inheritance from your parents.