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Why is the Coronation going to cost £100 million?

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AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 09:38

I do not understand how a ceremony in a cathedral is going to cost this much. We know how much roughly security cost for past Royal weddings so this is not the answer. The estimated cost for William and Kate's wedding with a big reception and evening do was £30 million, includi9ng security. How does a ceremony in a cathedral plus security cost £70 million more than a wedding?

title amended by MNHQ at OP's request.

OP posts:
ladyforallseasons · 24/01/2023 11:17

AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 11:14

Do the monies from TV rights go to the government or the Royal Family?

The RF get nothing

00100001 · 24/01/2023 11:18

00100001 · 24/01/2023 11:14

It won't go to the royal family....

Sorry, it won't ALL go to royal family. They might get a percentage.

or example, Harry and Meghan got money, but they donated it.

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2020/04/15/prince-harry-meghan-90000-wedding-profit-donated-feeding-britain/

I suspect Charles would too,. As he's already pledged the increased profits from estates to charity.

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2023/01/19/king-charles-hand-back-millions-wind-farm-profits-nation/

00100001 · 24/01/2023 11:20

AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 11:16

@Onnabugeisha In the US they sell tickets to reduce the cost of the Presidential inauguration.
And even then it is clearly too much. Just because one country spends too much it does not mean we have to as well.

Who says it's too much?

Who said we're spending too much?

AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 11:20

So we pay for the Coronation and they make money from the TV rights that they might or might not donate to charity.

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smilesy · 24/01/2023 11:22

Onnabugeisha · 24/01/2023 11:03

This one is more recent, but the £100m is the reporter’s personal estimate
uk.news.yahoo.com/king-charles-coronation-plans-cost-of-living-crisis-hypocritical-154542678.html

”When Queen Elizabeth II was crowned in 1953, it cost the nation £1.57m — today’s equivalent of £51m ($61m). For Charles, using the cost of security at events such as previous royal weddings as a benchmark, I calculate the figure could be inching closer to £100m ($120m) when factoring in the sophisticated operation it will require.

Despite the estimated increased cost, Charles’ ceremony will be shorter and last between one and two hours (as opposed to his mother’s three-hour event) with rituals considered outdated or cumbersome cut to allow for the reduced run time. There are also expected to be far fewer attendees at the 2023 coronation: 2,000 compared to 8,000 at the late Queen’s.”

by Omid Scobie (and he’s personally estimating £100m)

Errm…Omid Scobie?? That well known pro Sussex journalist? Couldn’t be that he has an agenda, could it🤔

00100001 · 24/01/2023 11:26

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AnotherSpare · 24/01/2023 11:26

gogohmm · 24/01/2023 09:49

The figure I saw was £40 million, much of which is on security but not necessarily an extra cost. Some of the bill will be met by the royal family anyway. Tv rights sold overseas will off set the costs to broadcast it etc. the cost is one thing but it will produce an income too

I wish more people realised this!

Onnabugeisha · 24/01/2023 11:29

AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 11:20

So we pay for the Coronation and they make money from the TV rights that they might or might not donate to charity.

Nope, your links say that the money from the TV rights will more than offset the costs. That means the ££££ from TV rights is used to pay off the ££££ bills for the Coronation. So basically, the Coronation is not only free to us, but makes money for the U.K. Government.

The Coronation is like a massive Rock Concert. It costs a lot to stage, but it’s a profit maker overall, and unlike say a Beyonce concert, the profits don’t go to the rock star Charles III but to the British public.

DancingLeaves · 24/01/2023 11:52

@00100001

No need to be so rude.

The government pays for the Coronation.

So that's all of us taxpayers.

"In November 2022, the government proclaimed that an extra bank holiday would occur on 8 May 2023, two days after the coronation. On 21 January 2023, Buckingham Palace announced plans for the coronation weekend between 6–8 May 2023. As a state occasion, the coronation is paid for by the British government." (My italics)

Ted27 · 24/01/2023 11:57

No they won’t be making money off the TV rights, the profit belongs to the BBC.
Those articles made it sound like Harry and Megan were handed a cheque by the BBC and they handed it over to the charity, as opposed to the BBC donating the profits to a charity they are associated with, not quite the same

PlaitBilledDuckyPuss · 24/01/2023 11:59

Because when people are spending other people's money, they make no effort to economise.

00100001 · 24/01/2023 12:04

DancingLeaves · 24/01/2023 11:52

@00100001

No need to be so rude.

The government pays for the Coronation.

So that's all of us taxpayers.

"In November 2022, the government proclaimed that an extra bank holiday would occur on 8 May 2023, two days after the coronation. On 21 January 2023, Buckingham Palace announced plans for the coronation weekend between 6–8 May 2023. As a state occasion, the coronation is paid for by the British government." (My italics)

Funded by the sovereign Grant not taxpayers money

00100001 · 24/01/2023 12:05

And even if it IS tax payers money...so what? It will bring in more money to the economy than is spent.... Keeping us all in jobs Nd providing more money through tax to pay for things like NHS, education, social care etc...

fantasmasgoria1 · 24/01/2023 12:09

They should use that money to help people in need not have a coronation.

BlackBasket · 24/01/2023 12:09

It just really doesn’t affect me as a taxpayer.

The budget money isn’t in one account, everything is already in different pots.

If we didn’t use it on the coronation, it would be used on something else to do with that pot.

It wouldn’t get transferred to the NHS pot, or the heating and lighting pot, or any other pot regardless. It’s already budgeted for.

And as stated, a lot of these are costs we’re paying for anyway, not excess costs eg. They’ve worked out the day rate of the military personnel and included that, which would have been paid regardless if there was a coronation or not.

It also raises money as people descend upon the city and spend, which boosts the economy that way.

I just really can’t get that worked up about it, this coronation is going to happen, then as far as I’m concerned, go hard or go home.

It’s the first one I’ve ever seen, so I want it to be good! Not done on a shoestring

MsFogi · 24/01/2023 12:09

FFS when are we going to get rid of the monarchy - I really don't buy this bs about the RF bringing in money. I went to Paris last year and it was heaving with tourists (as was Rome), no need to have a RF to get tourists into the country.

fantasmasgoria1 · 24/01/2023 12:13

MsFogi · 24/01/2023 12:09

FFS when are we going to get rid of the monarchy - I really don't buy this bs about the RF bringing in money. I went to Paris last year and it was heaving with tourists (as was Rome), no need to have a RF to get tourists into the country.

Agreed. I saw a post a couple of years ago and the person who had written it had done their research. They said that in the UK there are 20 more things that tourists visit the UK for than the royal family. I wish I had screenshot it. I will try and find it if i can.

HereComesMaleficent · 24/01/2023 12:18

fantasmasgoria1 · 24/01/2023 12:09

They should use that money to help people in need not have a coronation.

King Charles is already asking to divert millions a year from one of the crown estates back to "the people".

It's to do with wind farms that have been built on crown estates.

He's also reduced the 25% that usually funds the royal family, due to the cost of living crisis.

The man is trying. But he's also got an issue of "red tape".

I've no problem with a £100million pound coronation. This will be the only coronation some see in their lifetime. It's costing us like £1.50 each if you were to divide the cost by the population.

President's get a eye watering multimillion pound inauguration every 4 years! At least we are about to get a decade or more before another.

00100001 · 24/01/2023 12:20

MsFogi · 24/01/2023 12:09

FFS when are we going to get rid of the monarchy - I really don't buy this bs about the RF bringing in money. I went to Paris last year and it was heaving with tourists (as was Rome), no need to have a RF to get tourists into the country.

Obviously it's not only the monarchy that brings tourists...but it is a draw. To think otherwise is silly.

The UK spending £100m on this , or any other major event is easily recouped by the money spent by businesses and the public. Just look at something like...the Olympics. Cost a fucking fortune,but brought in money and has left a legacy.

Monarchist or not, this is a significant historical occasion and will bring in a fuck ton of money.

Spectre8 · 24/01/2023 12:25

Well the king is big on climate chnsge stuff, why not tell all the foreign dignitaries to watch from home to respect his values around reducing carbon footprint. Might shave off a few million and then some.

Onnabugeisha · 24/01/2023 12:31

HereComesMaleficent · 24/01/2023 12:18

King Charles is already asking to divert millions a year from one of the crown estates back to "the people".

It's to do with wind farms that have been built on crown estates.

He's also reduced the 25% that usually funds the royal family, due to the cost of living crisis.

The man is trying. But he's also got an issue of "red tape".

I've no problem with a £100million pound coronation. This will be the only coronation some see in their lifetime. It's costing us like £1.50 each if you were to divide the cost by the population.

President's get a eye watering multimillion pound inauguration every 4 years! At least we are about to get a decade or more before another.

He really is trying, but to anti-monarchists nothing will ever be good enough. They are in La la land thinking no monarchy= more money for regular people and it simply is not possible.

Onnabugeisha · 24/01/2023 12:32

Spectre8 · 24/01/2023 12:25

Well the king is big on climate chnsge stuff, why not tell all the foreign dignitaries to watch from home to respect his values around reducing carbon footprint. Might shave off a few million and then some.

Well, he’s cut the guest list from 8,000 to 2,000 so that’s not half bad imho.

MarshaMelrose · 24/01/2023 12:37

I can't take anything the op says seriously.

First of they say £100m = £1b.

Then they link an article quoting US inauguration cost $175m - $200m. And say inauguration only cost $1m.

And they're basing all the arguments on 'estimate', 'could' and 'might'.

When you start quoting actual true facts, let us know.

upinaballoon · 24/01/2023 12:43

Roughly £1.50 each. That's more than a cup of coffee at home and less than a cup of coffee out, plus it gives me a chance to use that red, white and blue ribbon again, which was left over from the 1977 jubilee. I might get it plaited into my forelock. I was joking about the ribbon up to this point but maybe I should think about it....

How much has that HS2 cost me so far? More or less than £1.50?

yousmellnice · 24/01/2023 12:44

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