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Why is the Coronation going to cost £100 million?

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AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 09:38

I do not understand how a ceremony in a cathedral is going to cost this much. We know how much roughly security cost for past Royal weddings so this is not the answer. The estimated cost for William and Kate's wedding with a big reception and evening do was £30 million, includi9ng security. How does a ceremony in a cathedral plus security cost £70 million more than a wedding?

title amended by MNHQ at OP's request.

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Phos · 24/01/2023 10:16

Onnabugeisha · 24/01/2023 10:10

Taxpayers aren’t paying for the Coronation. It’s being paid for by sponsorships, selling off rights, donations by businesses/celebrities/RF and the Crown Estate. The Crown Estate isn’t funded by any of our taxes at all.

Coronations are funded by the government not the Crown Estate but I still think the money from tv rights will be used to offset it.

SpookyBlackCat · 24/01/2023 10:17

I think because of the foreign dignitaries. It was the same with Abe’s funeral in Japan. A lot of VIPs from around the world came, so the cost of hosting them and security was very expensive. I don’t think foreign VIPs attend the presidential inauguration, so it would be cheaper.

it’s like a wedding. The more guests you host, the more expensive it is.

Onnabugeisha · 24/01/2023 10:17

AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 10:12

The cost of a Presidential inauguration is about $1 million.
www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-much-does-an-inauguration-cost-and-who-pays-for-what/2016/12/13/d7c1fe96-be48-11e6-91ee-1adddfe36cbe_story.html

The Coronation will cost way more than 100 Presidential inaugurations.

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Do you have dyspraxia or something? Your link says that as of 2016, presidential inaugurations cost $175 million to $200 million, not “about $1 million”?

”Inaugurations are expensive. Really, really expensive.
The peaceful transfer of power comes with a massive price tag: When all the bills are added up, the 2017 celebration will cost an estimated $175 million to $200 million.”

SpookyBlackCat · 24/01/2023 10:18

I was shocked at the 1 million cost.

I think the OP is either really bad at maths or just trolling.

StarsSand · 24/01/2023 10:18

AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 10:01

@Phos 100 million is 1 billion. I think 100 million is being used to make it seem like less than a billion.

That's not right. 1000 million is a billion.

Maybe ask Mumsnet to update the title?

StarsSand · 24/01/2023 10:20

AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 09:43

That is outrageous that they are asking volunteers to litter pick. Bloody cheek.

That's outrageous.

Taxes spent to laud a king and the peasants are generously allowed to pick up trash if they want to be a part of it.

When is the revolution again?

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AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 10:22

@Onnabugeisha Sorry you are right. But they also sell tickets which raise about $70 million.

I have asked MN to change the title
£100 million is still outrageous.

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Onnabugeisha · 24/01/2023 10:24

Phos · 24/01/2023 10:16

Coronations are funded by the government not the Crown Estate but I still think the money from tv rights will be used to offset it.

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Not quite, the Government uses Crown Estate profits to pay for the Coronation. Currently, the Government gets 75% of Crown Estate profits. The Government isn’t going to use collected taxes to pay for a share of the coronation. Which is being planned to be a lot smaller than his mothers coronation was.

Here is an article on Charles III plan to increase the % of his Crown Estate profits going to the U.K. Government for the public good to help with the cost of living crisis.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64319323

00100001 · 24/01/2023 10:25

AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 10:01

@Phos 100 million is 1 billion. I think 100 million is being used to make it seem like less than a billion.

LOL.

No its not

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AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 10:27

SpookyBlackCat · 24/01/2023 10:17

I think because of the foreign dignitaries. It was the same with Abe’s funeral in Japan. A lot of VIPs from around the world came, so the cost of hosting them and security was very expensive. I don’t think foreign VIPs attend the presidential inauguration, so it would be cheaper.

it’s like a wedding. The more guests you host, the more expensive it is.

But there were foreign dignitaries and celebrities at the Royal weddings. They still cost way less than the Coronation will.

We have had in less than twelve months an estimated £28 million spent on the Jubilee ( a bargain compared to the Coronation).
www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/uk-news/queens-platinum-jubilee-28m-taxpayers-24121003

And probably about £8 million for the Queen's funeral.
fullfact.org/economy/queen-funeral-costs/

And now at least £100 million for the Coronation.

All while subjects are experiencing a frightening fall in living standards.

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mrswibblywobbly · 24/01/2023 10:28

It’s the rising cost of diamonds.

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LivMumsnet · 24/01/2023 10:29

Morning, @AttentionAll - as requested by you, we've now amended your title to read '£100 million' rather than '£1 billion' as it originally stated. Hope that clears up any confusion on the thread.

00100001 · 24/01/2023 10:29

So what if it "costs" £100 million?

Think of all the extra people who will be in the UK, spending their money in people's shops, cafes, hotels, museums, tourist attractions, taxis, buses, restaurants, markets, street food stalls, local businesses etc and going "Wow, Britain is amazing, I'm coming back with my friends next year"

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AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 10:30

Onnabugeisha · 24/01/2023 10:24

Not quite, the Government uses Crown Estate profits to pay for the Coronation. Currently, the Government gets 75% of Crown Estate profits. The Government isn’t going to use collected taxes to pay for a share of the coronation. Which is being planned to be a lot smaller than his mothers coronation was.

Here is an article on Charles III plan to increase the % of his Crown Estate profits going to the U.K. Government for the public good to help with the cost of living crisis.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64319323

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That money comes to Government to use on what they want. It is taxpayers money that could be spent on the NHS or social care. Not on flattering the vanity of a very wealthy man.

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TugboatAnnie · 24/01/2023 10:31

Even if it was 'taxpayers' money' (yawn) it's only the equivalent of a few Starbucks each. A day's entertainment, watching history etc, can't wait.

Onnabugeisha · 24/01/2023 10:32

AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 10:22

@Onnabugeisha Sorry you are right. But they also sell tickets which raise about $70 million.

I have asked MN to change the title
£100 million is still outrageous.

Yes £100 million is an outrageous amount, and you haven’t provided any evidence for this claim. Everything I am reading is that the Coronation will be 1/4 to 1/2 the size of his mothers which cost around £46m to £51m in todays money depending upon which inflation calculator you use. So I doubt that his Coronation could be more than £25m in total, and this amount will also be offset by selling rights and sponsorships.

So, as of 2016 it cost $175m to $200m for presidential inaugurations which are offset by $70m, leaving costs to US government which actually are paid by taxpayers of $105m to $125m. And this happens every 4yrs.

Compared to a Coronation that is estimated to cost around £12 to £25m that is also offset by selling rights and sponsorships, such that U.K. Government costs are likely to be a fraction of this. And this is the first one in 70yrs.

Onnabugeisha · 24/01/2023 10:34

AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 10:30

That money comes to Government to use on what they want. It is taxpayers money that could be spent on the NHS or social care. Not on flattering the vanity of a very wealthy man.

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No, it is not “tax payers money” it is the Crown’s money going to the U.K. Government to be spent on what Parliament decides to spend it on.

Its nothing to do with “flattering vanity”

00100001 · 24/01/2023 10:36

There's more to spending government money than shoving it to the NHS and propping up social care.

The government also have to make sure UK is a "world class" country and is kept up as an important country, we're a global financial powerhouse. We're one of the wealthiest and 'famous' countries in the world. We have to keep the image up and part of that is spending money in "advertising" the UK.

kust like they spent loads on New Year's Eve, Olympics, World Cup... All sorts. It helps cement our place in the world. Sometimes, you have to Speculate to accumulate.

It will bring in £millions to the country through spending from visitors and businesses.

It is a significant part of our national history.

paintitallover · 24/01/2023 10:37

Ffs. Let them eat cake attitude rules.

How can such expense be justified? It's disgusting when some children don't eat enough.

00100001 · 24/01/2023 10:38

paintitallover · 24/01/2023 10:37

Ffs. Let them eat cake attitude rules.

How can such expense be justified? It's disgusting when some children don't eat enough.

Presumably you give every spare penny of your own to foodbanks

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AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 10:39

@00100001 There is a limit to the number of hotels and restaurants available that weekend. There will be more tourists, especially domestic tourists, but it will be like any very large event in London, the hotels will fill up as will the restaurants but will reach capacity.

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AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 10:42

Operation Golden Orb committee, which plans the ceremony, said costs could run to more than £100 million. I think they should understand the costs if anyone does.

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emmylousings · 24/01/2023 10:42

Crazy. Bunch of benefit scroungers, don't even pay income tax.

00100001 · 24/01/2023 10:45

AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 10:39

@00100001 There is a limit to the number of hotels and restaurants available that weekend. There will be more tourists, especially domestic tourists, but it will be like any very large event in London, the hotels will fill up as will the restaurants but will reach capacity.

Oh no...all the hotels and restaurants and services and tourism places will be full of people spending their money... DREADFUL

They'll have to go slightly further afield and spend more money in other places OH NOOOOO

People and businesses will benefit and have a boost to their income HOW AWFUL

People might return to the UK and spend even more money.... FUCKING TERRIBLE

ForTheLoveOfSleep · 24/01/2023 10:45

AttentionAll · 24/01/2023 10:42

Operation Golden Orb committee, which plans the ceremony, said costs could run to more than £100 million. I think they should understand the costs if anyone does.

Any links to sources for this? If I google it, it just sends me to Daily Fail type sites. And I'm loathe to believe any site that has a link to a story about Katie Price's teeth next to it.