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Ham pr disasters 57! ….continuing the confusion and controversy….

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jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 19:46

Once more into the breach dear friends!!

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TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · Today 15:25

CoffeeCantata · Today 15:21

I think she was involved in 'elder care', as it's called in the US? I don't think she was a SW in the gritty sense that it has in the UK.

Happy to be corrected!

I’ve never believed she was a social worker in the proper sense and the bit about elder care came within the last few years when her name was found on documents relating to a care home. The social work is supposed to have been years ago.

One thing that does strike me is - how has she been able to lead a life where it’s almost as if she didn’t exist. How do you put together that level of vanishing.

Starryfifty · Today 15:26

I don't think her going NC with her father was a huge deal. Plenty of children in the same situation for various reasons. It's the fact that she's NC with a huge number of people. Her siblings (can't blame her here) but other family members. Does doria have siblings ?? Cousins, etc? Meg is NC with old friends. Oh and not forgetting NC with her in laws

diddl · Today 15:26

Harry may have known the content of letters but may not (personally I think MM prob has lots of secrets from him). He could be seriously questioning things now

It would be quite a thing I think if he were now thinking of a way out.

Could that then be a way back in to the RF for him?

Starryfifty · Today 15:27

JudgeJ · Today 15:24

Wow, the Sun's a bit of a comedown from OW!

I'd say OW biding her time. Post conviction (if any) interview. Meg the hero for all victims of CSA or whichever spin they put on it

AutumnCrowning · Today 15:28

Starryfifty · Today 14:47

And they bizarrely received a humanitarian of the year award 🙄

My fave is the award they smugly accepted for fighting the racism that Harry then angrily denied had happened. And Tom Bradby let him get away with it. Another WhatsApp sap of a so-called reporter.

Starryfifty · Today 15:28

diddl · Today 15:26

Harry may have known the content of letters but may not (personally I think MM prob has lots of secrets from him). He could be seriously questioning things now

It would be quite a thing I think if he were now thinking of a way out.

Could that then be a way back in to the RF for him?

Even if he knew, what would he have done ? Nothing. The wedding was planned and he was totally in love and no doubt still is

TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · Today 15:28

So this is what ChatGPT says - it came up first on my screen.

www.google.com/search?q=doria+ragland+early+life+and+background&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari&iga=1&utm_campaign=safari_share_1

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Today 15:29

diddl · Today 15:26

Harry may have known the content of letters but may not (personally I think MM prob has lots of secrets from him). He could be seriously questioning things now

It would be quite a thing I think if he were now thinking of a way out.

Could that then be a way back in to the RF for him?

I think he'd go back to them a broken wreck and live quietly, deeply shamed. At least, I hope he would. (That's if it's all been invented by his wife colluding with her brother. I'm not saying he should feel shamed if his father in law did in fact turn out to be a paedophile - not that we will ever know for sure.)

TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · Today 15:30

So she appears to have been a qualified social worker as well as a make up artist and yoga teacher.

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Today 15:31

Starryfifty · Today 15:28

Even if he knew, what would he have done ? Nothing. The wedding was planned and he was totally in love and no doubt still is

Current thinking is he should have informed authorities like he did for every other perceived problem.
If he knew and said nothing... Blimey.

AcrossthePond55 · Today 15:31

RedTagAlan · Today 04:28

These threads are so fast moving it's hard to keep up.

Did you see my question to you about Mandated Reporters in California, and if that comes into play ?

The UK does not have such laws. It's a very good law IMO.

I'm way behind on this thread and just running out for errands. But as far as mandated reporters it's school personnel, health care/mental care providers, childcare providers, youth program providers, LEO, firefighters, and clergy.

'Run of the mill' citizens of CA are not required to report under the mandated reporter law, however it is a crime to 'willfully permit' abuse (of any kind) if you know about it. So where a 'regular' person isn't required to report it, if they don't they could be considered to be permitting or abetting the abuse and they can be prosecuted under California Penal Code § 273a (usually a misdemeanor) which is basically child endangerment or allowing abuse. I think it's like if you see a parent swat their child's bum once and you say nothing you wouldn't be prosecuted if it turns out later they were abusing their child. But if you see your neighbour repeatedly beating their child and don't report them, you might be.

dreamerhereawake · Today 15:31

diddl · Today 15:26

Harry may have known the content of letters but may not (personally I think MM prob has lots of secrets from him). He could be seriously questioning things now

It would be quite a thing I think if he were now thinking of a way out.

Could that then be a way back in to the RF for him?

At the very least, I’d expect him to stand by her. Even if it were as quietly as M stood by him.

She’s been through enough of his self centred shite. It is his turn now.

JudgeJ · Today 15:32

Starryfifty · Today 14:22

Well they need them now and got help them and hamlets when the tabloids turn on them

Maybe they simply meant 'no more free interviews', they're very keen to sing for their supper.

Starryfifty · Today 15:32

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Today 15:29

I think he'd go back to them a broken wreck and live quietly, deeply shamed. At least, I hope he would. (That's if it's all been invented by his wife colluding with her brother. I'm not saying he should feel shamed if his father in law did in fact turn out to be a paedophile - not that we will ever know for sure.)

Unfortunately Harry can't live quietly. I'd say he's chomping at the bit to get "their voice heard" during this

jeffgoldblum · Today 15:32

AutumnCrowning · Today 15:28

My fave is the award they smugly accepted for fighting the racism that Harry then angrily denied had happened. And Tom Bradby let him get away with it. Another WhatsApp sap of a so-called reporter.

To be fair the look on his face said more than any words could ever say! 😁

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Lunde · Today 15:33

TheTwerkingDuchessOfMonteshitshow · Today 15:15

There’s some confusion as to whether she is a qualified social worker or someone did a social work course.

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This is true. However 2019 was the year she was setting up her care company offering care in client's homes (although it does appear it might be a shell company). The fact that the company owner discovered her ex might have been a CS abuser (and she still met up with him from time to time after HAM started dating) would seem to be relevant information to pass on.

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Today 15:34

Starryfifty · Today 15:32

Unfortunately Harry can't live quietly. I'd say he's chomping at the bit to get "their voice heard" during this

Only if he was already aware of all this.
He may be reeling. If he believes it's true, and that MM knew but didn't tell him... Yikes.

smilesy · Today 15:35

Starryfifty · Today 15:27

I'd say OW biding her time. Post conviction (if any) interview. Meg the hero for all victims of CSA or whichever spin they put on it

The cynic in me thinks that OW was hoping to get an exclusive post divorce (if that ever happened) interview, and that this episode will have put a massive spanner in the works wrt to that. If it turns
out Meghan knew about TMsnr’s alleged crimes and turned a blind eye, her victim status will be scuppered

pipinghot · Today 15:35

diddl · Today 15:26

Harry may have known the content of letters but may not (personally I think MM prob has lots of secrets from him). He could be seriously questioning things now

It would be quite a thing I think if he were now thinking of a way out.

Could that then be a way back in to the RF for him?

Noooo he'll not be doing that. He's got no one else, he's been so isolated from everyone else, he depends on M now. Meghan may bin him, in future but for now they need each other. Considering how at the top of the tree they were (seemed to be) in 2018, their current situation is incredible. The fact only her mum was at the wedding, with a few people from a tv show she did, and some guests she invited but had never met before, and then her one best mate / bff/ maid of honour has since been dropped.. It's astounding really - none of it bears any resemblance to normality. Even in crazy celeb world.

Lunde · Today 15:35

Starryfifty · Today 15:17

I thought Doria was a yoga teacher??

She owns a care company providing care in people's homes - set up in 2019

Although there are rumours it's a shell company and it appears its registration lapsed

Starryfifty · Today 15:36

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Today 15:34

Only if he was already aware of all this.
He may be reeling. If he believes it's true, and that MM knew but didn't tell him... Yikes.

Yes. He could be completely unaware. No way she would risk that deal falling through (the wedding)

AlexandraCarrington · Today 15:36

I suspect any MET investigation would have been into the credibility of the letter writer and any reputational threat that posed to the Duchess of Sussex.

I agree with all of Wordler's post.

MM may have decided a divorce was necessary but realised there would be no big payout and any payout linked to an NDA, so may have colluded with her beloved brother to make money in this way instead.

I don't think any payout from the Sun is likely to be enough to keep her in the style to which she would like to be accustomed.

The trouble is (and she should have learned this after Oprah) the more she talks, the more there is out there to come back and bite her on the arse at a later date.

I cannot imagine who is advising her at this point. Surely no top flight PR would think this is a good strategy for someone in M's position?

pipinghot · Today 15:39

smilesy · Today 15:35

The cynic in me thinks that OW was hoping to get an exclusive post divorce (if that ever happened) interview, and that this episode will have put a massive spanner in the works wrt to that. If it turns
out Meghan knew about TMsnr’s alleged crimes and turned a blind eye, her victim status will be scuppered

The Sun and Oprah, same level of vacuous fake money making shite really.

Puzzledandpissedoff · Today 15:39

Lunde · Today 12:58

Did anyone actually authenticate the original Loveless letter? Are we sure she actually wrote it?

At this point I'm not sure anything's been authenticated by anyone, Lunde
We're getting practically all of this via Thomas Junior, Philippine agencies, the Scum and Meghan, and it seems a battle as to who can be least reputable

Unfortunately it appears the sort of investigators who can be trusted may now consider the alleged evidence compromised, so where it'll go from here remains to be seen

PullTheBricksDown · Today 15:40

Either Harry has known all along, and has chosen to say odd things about it being his fault Meghan lost her dad, or he's just now found out..