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Ham pr disasters 57! ….continuing the confusion and controversy….

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jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 19:46

Once more into the breach dear friends!!

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Lunde · Today 18:10

jeffgoldblum · Today 17:51

Talking of grubby! ..some YouTube bloke called mark Dolan has a retired met chief police detective called Mike Neville on his show..apparently he has spoken to detectives who have seen the 2019 letter and ( deep breath) it claims that markle snr abused his daughter Samantha ! …..what the hell is going on? …how can this be true or even remotely legal to release this even on the internet???
this has to be crap right?

Isn't it illegal to out rape victims? Especially a child victim.

Doesn't that make Loveless a terrible mother if she didn't enforce her custody rights. And Meghan a terrible sister.

Mylovelygreendress · Today 18:11

jeffgoldblum · Today 17:51

Talking of grubby! ..some YouTube bloke called mark Dolan has a retired met chief police detective called Mike Neville on his show..apparently he has spoken to detectives who have seen the 2019 letter and ( deep breath) it claims that markle snr abused his daughter Samantha ! …..what the hell is going on? …how can this be true or even remotely legal to release this even on the internet???
this has to be crap right?

Samantha has spent the past few days defending her father on X

jeffgoldblum · Today 18:11

nicegreenwillow · Today 17:59

This just gets worse, doesn't it?

I’m frankly disgusted! , if it’s true then they have no right ! , if it’s lies they are absolutely disgusting!

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Passingthroughagain · Today 18:11

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Today 17:41

I just went on the Sun website for first time ever and there was no mention of any Markle.
ETA: mentions on the DM site but far down and not headline grabbing style.

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Exactly what I found - so weird!

Lunde · Today 18:11

AutumnCrowning · Today 17:19

And how much did the Mail have to shell out to her for her costs? That looks very suspect now.

Will they try to get it reopened as the NotW did in the Jeffrey Archer case?

Kingsandqueenz · Today 18:12

Mylovelygreendress · Today 16:51

Still doesn’t explain why Harry never met TMsr .
They started dating in 2016 so he had 2 years to meet him and didn’t.,

So much just isn't adding up.
Meghan ,Samantha, Thomas Jnr & Thomas senior all all the same, it's all money & looking for the next story to sell..

readbutdonotpostoften · Today 18:12

It seems to have become somewhat of a free for all for accusations now from many media outlets.

Passingthroughagain · Today 18:12

Lunde · Today 18:10

Isn't it illegal to out rape victims? Especially a child victim.

Doesn't that make Loveless a terrible mother if she didn't enforce her custody rights. And Meghan a terrible sister.

Yes, if Samantha is a victim, she deserves lifelong anonymity.

Kingsandqueenz · Today 18:14

But is Samantha not standing by him saying the allegations aren't true?

Passingthroughagain · Today 18:15

Thanks! I see it's only in the World News section on the US edition, and on page 2 of the page scroll. The story isn't on the UK edition anywhere.

Something's amiss. It's The Sun's biggest exclusive in years and they've dropped it off the UK homepage?

MindThePause · Today 18:16

Lunde · Today 18:10

Isn't it illegal to out rape victims? Especially a child victim.

Doesn't that make Loveless a terrible mother if she didn't enforce her custody rights. And Meghan a terrible sister.

You can’t name a victim of a sex crime in an offical investigation.
And here are protocols around naming a minor in the context of an alleged sex crime.

But I never found out if it was allowed to bandy the name of an alleged victim of parental child sex abuse once they were an adult, if no official charges were involved.

mysoddenbananabread · Today 18:18

Passingthroughagain · Today 18:11

Exactly what I found - so weird!

That's not accurate . It's all there on the News page but yes it's old news. DAMNING DOSSIER.

MeghanAndTheSeals · Today 18:20

Passingthroughagain · Today 18:15

Thanks! I see it's only in the World News section on the US edition, and on page 2 of the page scroll. The story isn't on the UK edition anywhere.

Something's amiss. It's The Sun's biggest exclusive in years and they've dropped it off the UK homepage?

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Yup, I’ve just gone online as well (ugh, felt a bit grubby clicking on their website 😂) and I can’t see any mention at all on their main page. Surely this is VERY odd given it was their worldwide exclusive when they broke it a couple of days ago.

Kingsandqueenz · Today 18:23

MeghanAndTheSeals · Today 18:20

Yup, I’ve just gone online as well (ugh, felt a bit grubby clicking on their website 😂) and I can’t see any mention at all on their main page. Surely this is VERY odd given it was their worldwide exclusive when they broke it a couple of days ago.

Maybe down to classic Markle misinformation & miscommunication?
One thing for sure is that this is a disaster for Meghan

MeghanAndTheSeals · Today 18:26

mysoddenbananabread · Today 18:18

That's not accurate . It's all there on the News page but yes it's old news. DAMNING DOSSIER.

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Ah, thanks, see it now. Seems odd that it’s off the main page, maybe even they’re bored of it now!

BunnyBunbunbun · Today 18:29

jeffgoldblum · Today 17:51

Talking of grubby! ..some YouTube bloke called mark Dolan has a retired met chief police detective called Mike Neville on his show..apparently he has spoken to detectives who have seen the 2019 letter and ( deep breath) it claims that markle snr abused his daughter Samantha ! …..what the hell is going on? …how can this be true or even remotely legal to release this even on the internet???
this has to be crap right?

This allegation sounds like complete rubbish to me.

Mylovelygreendress · Today 18:29

MeghanAndTheSeals · Today 18:26

Ah, thanks, see it now. Seems odd that it’s off the main page, maybe even they’re bored of it now!

Or maybe new information has come to light …….

Rhaidimiddim · Today 18:29

sickofsixseven · Today 17:59

But why was Harry going around for years saying it was his fault that meghan was estranged from her dad due to the press intrusion? Its almost like he had no clue about any of this

It is the way they roll. It was their truth, then. The nasty British press, especially the red tops.

Now - they are probably still trying to make up their mind what their truth is right now

Oh, and clueless. That's also the way he rolls.

readbutdonotpostoften · Today 18:32

Mylovelygreendress · Today 18:29

Or maybe new information has come to light …….

Lawyers becoming involved maybe?

Puzzledandpissedoff · Today 18:36

readbutdonotpostoften · Today 18:32

Lawyers becoming involved maybe?

Perhaps - although the Scum will have their own - but isn't it a bit late if evidence is already compromised?

The obvious thing to do right from the start would have been to place this in the hands of the proper agencies, but of course the "obvious thing" doesn't earn clicks

Rhaidimiddim · Today 18:37

Lunde · Today 18:11

Will they try to get it reopened as the NotW did in the Jeffrey Archer case?

Oh, please please please!
But on what grounds legally?

MindThePause · Today 18:38

readbutdonotpostoften · Today 18:32

Lawyers becoming involved maybe?

Hopefully one very up to date about the advisability of a journalist accepting an invitation to view and photograph the contents of a hoard of CSA material.

jeffgoldblum · Today 18:40

It’s all so sordid …,it makes you wish we could go back in time to discuss the merching and ridiculous comments Harry makes!

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Horses7 · Today 18:43

CantBeArsedToThinkOfAName · Today 17:16

They also knew damn well Thomas Snr wouldn't be extradited to face charges in the Philippines and would be deemed as having no capacity in the US due to dementia so there wouldn't be a trial at all.

All they needed was the 'story' and of such disgusting and shocking allegations that most will just read the headlines and take it as true which is what the media is heavily pushing it as.

Now we DEFINITELY know that Meghan could absolutely NOT reconcile with her father as she discovered he was a monster, she was in full lioness mode protecting her children, and we should feel deep shame we thought it was because she was a nasty, narcissistic viper who didn't want her fat old hillbilly dad cramping her style!

We feel terrible don't we?

No because she cut him out of her life just before the wedding (long before any letters started arriving) and I believe she had no intention of him being at her wedding - she didn’t go visit him and H didn’t even meet him!!
He didn’t fit what she wanted to become.
People who say she cut him out of her life to protect her children are about 18 months out of date - when dealing with HaM it pays to keep an eye of the actual detailed facts NOT what HaM want you to believe!
Of course she obviously believed what TM’s alcoholic ex wife wrote (divorced 1975) even though this wife left both her children with him during their childhood. MM believed it all without hearing her Dad’s side of the story. TM was already long gone in MM eyes.

CantBeArsedToThinkOfAName · Today 18:46

sickofsixseven · Today 17:59

But why was Harry going around for years saying it was his fault that meghan was estranged from her dad due to the press intrusion? Its almost like he had no clue about any of this

Maybe he didn't know about any of this and he's recently found out himself.

Could have been another reason for dash back to the UK? Thomas Jnr apparently informed US authorities of the Philippines stash on July 10th, HAM come back to the UK at the end of August.

There has no mention in statements of Harry seeing the 2019 letter and the recent statement was only from Meghan.