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Ham pr disasters 57! ….continuing the confusion and controversy….

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jeffgoldblum · Yesterday 19:46

Once more into the breach dear friends!!

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smilesy · Today 16:19

Kingsandqueenz · Today 16:15

I'm with you on this . I'm convinced Meghan & her brother are in collusion, maybe they were never estranged it was all a big act? Who knows with the Markles.. nothing is ever as it seems..

They may well have been estranged, but it’s. amazing how the promise of a sizeable payday can potentially lead to a reconciliation 🤷‍♀️

pipinghot · Today 16:21

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Today 16:13

We have no evidence that this letter wasn't just a crazy claim.
For all we know MM and TMJ could have used the letter as the basis for a plot..? A very convenient crazy claim that they are now presenting as fact, for whatever reasons.
That might be too much of a stretch though - too much colluding required between them.

Yes we do - the met confirmed they received A letter in 2019. To do with TM an gave to MM. But not much detail released..

pipinghot · Today 16:23

pipinghot · Today 16:21

Yes we do - the met confirmed they received A letter in 2019. To do with TM an gave to MM. But not much detail released..

I'm sure it was a crazy claim - but who knows from where.. Surely not MM at that time. But possibly TM ex. who knows. Having been fascinated by the circus I'm bored now. very fickle.

pipinghot · Today 16:27

smilesy · Today 16:19

They may well have been estranged, but it’s. amazing how the promise of a sizeable payday can potentially lead to a reconciliation 🤷‍♀️

There's no doubt all of this has been about money and sex, and power /control actually.

MajesticMeanderings · Today 16:29

I'm just thinking back to when H&M arrived back in the UK. At that time I was quite convinced there were going to be issues surrounding H attending the Cenotaph Service in November and I was really concerned about that as it's a very poignant occasion for my family. I think they came back in August and I felt November wasn't very far away

But since then there have been so many shenanigans, the children changing school, the photographs and videos of the Hamlets, Nottingham, the interview with GQ magazine and, more recently, the Markle family situation

Now, November 8th seems a long way away and I'm wondering what else is going to happen in Sussexland during the next few days

Is it just me?

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Today 16:29

pipinghot · Today 16:21

Yes we do - the met confirmed they received A letter in 2019. To do with TM an gave to MM. But not much detail released..

The Metropolitan Police receiving a letter doesn't mean it wasn't a fabricated claim, they receive those all the time. I'm suggesting MM and TMJ could have used the claim as the founding idea of a money-making plot.
Just another theory.
Doesn't sound plausible but none of this whole saga does.

CoffeeCantata · Today 16:30

Kingsandqueenz · Today 16:13

Maybe his wife told him that! I gave up so much for you & lost my father in the process, God only knows

I’m sure that’s what happened! I don’t think H can think of anything original to say…it’s clear he’s very easy to manipulate and M was quick to spot that.

jeffgoldblum · Today 16:33

I’m back…( out of breath from rushing ) …but all seems as ever!

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nicegreenwillow · Today 16:34

jeffgoldblum · Today 16:33

I’m back…( out of breath from rushing ) …but all seems as ever!

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pipinghot · Today 16:37

pipinghot · Today 16:27

There's no doubt all of this has been about money and sex, and power /control actually.

The venn diagram -
Harry - sex and love he needed both didn't he
Meghan Markle - money and power / control
Dad Markle - sex
Brother markle - money
Sister markle - money
Ex wife markle - money? Revenge?

Puzzledandpissedoff · Today 16:40

Interesting thought about the messing with the evidence possibly being intended, @bluegreygreen. I can see the appeal to Meghan and her brother of an allegation that'll never go away but may never actually be proved, even if the aim was only another "poor me" performance

After all it would hardly be the first time she'd tried it ...

jeffgoldblum · Today 16:41

nicegreenwillow · Today 16:34

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JudgeJ · Today 16:41

diddl · Today 15:13

The real question for me is why didn't Meghan confront her father and ask him if there is any basis for this claim. Instead, she simply cut him off, just like that, on the basis of an unsubstantiated claim by his angry ex-wife.

I think that she had already cut him off hadn't she?

Summer 2018 when she asked him to stop going to the press?

I'm sure I have read that she had been nc with her father long before meeting Harry, once she managed to get the role on Suits she relocated to Canada and didn't bother with him, it seemed that he had served his purpose.

jeffgoldblum · Today 16:42

Puzzledandpissedoff · Today 16:40

Interesting thought about the messing with the evidence possibly being intended, @bluegreygreen. I can see the appeal to Meghan and her brother of an allegation that'll never go away but may never actually be proved, even if the aim was only another "poor me" performance

After all it would hardly be the first time she'd tried it ...

Interesting thought indeed! 🤔

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bluegreygreen · Today 16:44

Puzzledandpissedoff · Today 16:40

Interesting thought about the messing with the evidence possibly being intended, @bluegreygreen. I can see the appeal to Meghan and her brother of an allegation that'll never go away but may never actually be proved, even if the aim was only another "poor me" performance

After all it would hardly be the first time she'd tried it ...

It also means that whichever Thomas Markle the alleged material originally belonged to, neither is likely to be successfully prosecuted.

AllegationsMayVary · Today 16:45

MindThePause · Today 14:55

I agree BP owe MM nothing now but as any institution be it a school, scout camp, workplace when an allegation of such serious nature lands on your desk you have an obligation to deal with it as per your in-house policies or any other legal or best practice requirements.

It’s not clear if her spouse knew about this particular landing on a desk. Let alone her in-laws.

Since when have we swung to believing a word that comes out of MM’s mouth.

Her contrived statement backs up my earlier points that she isn't going to throw her RF pension plan revenue stream under the bus at this time and she needs to keep PH out of the shit storm to max out any opportunities for royal fake glitter.

Mylovelygreendress · Today 16:51

Kingsandqueenz · Today 16:13

Maybe his wife told him that! I gave up so much for you & lost my father in the process, God only knows

Still doesn’t explain why Harry never met TMsr .
They started dating in 2016 so he had 2 years to meet him and didn’t.,

diddl · Today 16:52

JudgeJ · Today 16:41

I'm sure I have read that she had been nc with her father long before meeting Harry, once she managed to get the role on Suits she relocated to Canada and didn't bother with him, it seemed that he had served his purpose.

You could be right.

In which case it might have been better to just maintain that stance?

Rhaidimiddim · Today 16:58

smilesy · Today 16:19

They may well have been estranged, but it’s. amazing how the promise of a sizeable payday can potentially lead to a reconciliation 🤷‍♀️

And for HAM it removed a potential obstacle to reconciliation with the RF and all the benefits that would bring. The obstacle being that commenters were saying that KC3 wanted to see them reconcile with TMSr first, as a demonstration of a true change of heart.

A stash of child porn is the excuse she needed to remove the reconcile-with-TMSr obstacle. Although, ironically, the way she has handled the situation has demonstrated exactly why there will be no reconciliation with the RF.

MindThePause · Today 16:59

bluegreygreen · Today 16:44

It also means that whichever Thomas Markle the alleged material originally belonged to, neither is likely to be successfully prosecuted.

Depending on how the Phillipines decides to apply the law on sharing CSA material Markle Jnr may have reason to sweat a bit. I doubt the local authorities are over the moon about the way he has gone about reporting and handing over the hoard he had in his possession.

They probably would prefer the global media weren’t under their feet for an extended period, getting in the way of other investigations with a fighting chance of resulting in convictions. But giving him a reason not to get too comfortable in their country as a place for selling stories via a bit of a legal scare might not be out of the question.

Tampering/evidence contamination is one issue to consider. The act of inviting other people to view what you know to be CSA material is another one that should cross a person’s mind.

Personally my response would be, no I won’t look thanks, I’m calling the police now this is for them to examine. But evidently some technicians and journalists take a different view.

Puzzledandpissedoff · Today 17:00

bluegreygreen · Today 16:44

It also means that whichever Thomas Markle the alleged material originally belonged to, neither is likely to be successfully prosecuted.

I hadn't thought of that one but you're right, bluegreygreen

Another possible benefit Hmm

CantBeArsedToThinkOfAName · Today 17:03

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Today 16:29

The Metropolitan Police receiving a letter doesn't mean it wasn't a fabricated claim, they receive those all the time. I'm suggesting MM and TMJ could have used the claim as the founding idea of a money-making plot.
Just another theory.
Doesn't sound plausible but none of this whole saga does.

When the 2019 letter alleged to be from the 'x wife' was received Meghan was pregnant.

Any fool would have foreseen that the issue of Meghan's estranged dad would be a focus after the birth as people would be questioning how she could be so cruel in not reconciling with the dad she'd praised so much so he could meet his grandchild.

That letter at that time was insurance for when she was 'forced' to speak out about why she never reconciled with him.

I don't think they expected him to last so long after the TWO heart attacks he had in 2018 and imagined this would come out after his death because maybe doing it while he was alive was a step too far even for Meghan.

Time creates distance though, emotions dim, and when you're too skint to pay the billionaire lifestyle bills, needs must.

At the time that letter was paid for sent, HAM couldn't have foreseen that they wouldn't get their way of not having to open factories in Dagenham and only dipping in to do the glamourous bits. They were arrogant enough they assumed they would be able to do what they wanted. They assumed they'd be based in the UK and the pressure to give a feasible story about ostracising her Dad to invoke pity would be much greater here as she was much more visible (as she wanted to be) than she was in the US.

I think Meghan had absolutely no intention of her father being a part of her life after marrying into the RF. Whether that be because of embarrassment of his 'hillbilly' style or that he knew stuff from her past she didn't want getting out.

AlexandraCarrington · Today 17:03

But without [Diana's] philanthropic attitude.

And without her style and glamour. Diana (and/or her stylists) made it look easy and natural and nearly always got it right. Meghan always looks as if she's trying too hard and rarely succeeds.

ChubbyCheeksCharlie · Today 17:05

bluegreygreen · Today 16:44

It also means that whichever Thomas Markle the alleged material originally belonged to, neither is likely to be successfully prosecuted.

Did the evidence exist in the first place? Or was it created for this scenario? Too tampered with to tell now.

nicegreenwillow · Today 17:05

AlexandraCarrington · Today 17:03

But without [Diana's] philanthropic attitude.

And without her style and glamour. Diana (and/or her stylists) made it look easy and natural and nearly always got it right. Meghan always looks as if she's trying too hard and rarely succeeds.

She was glamorous. For all her faults, she was genuinely interested in the causes, they weren't just for publicity, to make her look good or self promotion.

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