Hazza and Megs "surprised" by King's letter.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp30kv53qvdo

Surprised. They're the only ones.

I would argue that many of us hold Harry in far higher disgust than Meghan, they were his family, he grew up in the Monarchy, if he didn’t understand the rules how could she?
and finally as much as her behaviour is toxic, I certainly don’t subscribe to the sexist trope that the woman is to blame.

Anyone else keen to know what H&Ms clarifications / edits would have been. “I’m more surprised” that they didn’t tell us what they would have said

Have they said what it was about it that surprised them?That the statement was made at all, that it was made public, that it put them in their box as private citizens?

And what would have been their 'clarifications'? I didn't see anything to clarify, it was abundantly clear.

She didn’t ’struggle with racism’ she struggled with her fucking awful behaviour.
When her conduct was not accepted THEN she decided to cry racism.
She is a plant. A grifter. Stupid Harry made a huge mistake marrying her and they will only remain married for as long as there is money to be made.
They want IPP status, which is much more than just security.

This is my understanding too. Also, Ken Wharfe has said that in the time he was PPO to William and Harry as kids, and later to Diana before she dismissed her royal security, he only felt the need to draw his gun twice. And neither time came close to firing it.

He says the most important piece of equipment for anyone protecting the royals is a radio, to keep abreast of any up-to-the-minute impending threats and to call for backup if needed. Given HAM have been given a direct line to Scotland Yard, their private (non-armed) security should be ample. And they should pay for it themselves as private citizens.

If Harry is so concerned about his safety, why is he skydiving for charity? It sounds incredibly risky. Will his private security have to skydive with him?

I get the feeling this is all being filmed....new documentary coming out soon.

True, and the original output from the palace was in the form of a letter sent out to Government departments/the military emphasising the Sussex's status, not an announcement.

I think the aim of that was to ensure everyone likely to be approached to facilitate events involving the pair had a record on file to quote back at them if pressure was being applied to make them special...e.g.

" Yes, Group Captain Biggles here, RAF Sleaford..thank you for your e-mail.

Look, I have an official letter here dated Sept 2026 which says you are private citizens...so we can't roll out the red carpet for you, can't put on lunch in the Officer Mess, but if you want to you can join in with the Scouts visit on the 25th....we'll let the guardroom know you are coming and they'll add you to the list".

I just meant he has a very high profile. For some reason people are crazy about Diana.

I'm reasonably confident it will be.

It seems like they must still be surrounded by sycophants, which is not going to be helpful to them in reading the room accurately.

Their going rogue was extremely badly timed in terms of the Epstein/AMW problems. There really has to be zero tolerance of entitled behaviour where it sits outside of the strict parameters of the royal machine.

I think other family members like Princess Margaret would have felt some changes had they still been around in this era.

It will be interesting to see how the security thing goes. On the one hand, Harry can’t help being the king’s son. On the other hand, the U.K. is home to some very wealthy and very famous people, who presumably don’t get taxpayer funded security?

...and it will be if/when RAVEC deem it necessary. 🥱

I agree. I wouldn't want my child (in the Met) taking a bullet for either of them!

I think Meghan in particular has been treated unfairly and badly by the British press.

They have also had (and took) lots of opportunities to tell their side of the story. With far more detail than would have been possible, had they still been fully within the RF.

I dont blame them for wanting to leave when they did, and seemingly they had a nice set up in California.

I thought (but obviously only know how media reports it) thry wanted a sort of part time working royals role....which wasnt permitted so they left and were not working royals.
Unless they were specifically told otherwise, im unsure why they would bhe surprised that the arrangement remains the same.

Wasn’t Soros rumoured to have funded their trip to Colombia and Harry’s to Ukraine? Or has that been debunked? It wouldn’t surprise me if a bored billionaire decided to use them as a plaything now they are desperate.

If they had a nice set up in California...why come back?

Yeah, it's not about being "the King's son" because it's about risk, not status. RAVEC evaluate the risk, security is then provided.
Being a Prince isn't the primary issue.

Sounds like complete nonsense to me.

Why is that? After Epstein, who is to say what’s unlikely to these types of men? And isn’t their Archewell Foundation just the sort of org these people funnel their spare cash through? Cash that can be siphoned off as “expenses”.

No one is going to pop up in the sky and assassinate him are they?

Soros is hardly Epstein! But he is a bogeyman name thrown around by people with a certain mindset.

Do you have any evidence of any connection between Harry/Meghan and Soros? In what way would he benefit from paying for them to go to Colombia and Ukraine? Does 96-year-old Soros even have any idea what Harry and Meghan are up to or even who they are?

Why would Harry and Meghan even need any external and unrelated person to fund them to go to Colombia and Ukraine when those trips were funded by the Colombian and Ukrainian governments? There may even be some Invictus funding, since those trips were broadly related to the Invictus Games, which could mean that the UK government is also indirectly funding part of them. You as a taxpayer paid for them! (For what it's worth, I think one target of the King's clarification letter about their non-royal status was Harry's activity with the Invictus Games, which are government sponsored and involve foreign governments and foreign ministries of defence as well as foreign militaries, which could lead to confusion around whether he is officially representing the British state - he isn't.)

Trying to implicate Soros is just daft conspiracy theory stuff, especially when there is no secret about the funding of these trips.

Oh that's done it..

Without wishing to feed H's paranoia if he has concerns along those lines and it's a solo jump he might want to look at one or two nasties that have happened in the usually very very safe skydiving world in the last decade or so..

That aside I suspect we're talking a tandem jump so there will be other parties interested in making sure everything works OK.

Not to forget the 9.5 million Harry has just paid in legal costs for his failed case against the DM. And that's only an interim payment. I suspect money is at the root of this return. Income streams have dried up in the US, no-one is interested there, but they can still stir things up here and gain financially from public interest.

Yes, it's not a great plan, but.... they're not great planners.