Meghan resuming her previous career?

[Fifiesta]

Meghan has been offered a part in series 3 of The Gentleman, by Guy Ritchie?

What’s the relevance of this to my post about (only) Sophie?

Imagine this instead your daughter.
.... Now the kids are both at school she wants to return to her previous career and try again she come to you for advice about getting back into cheffing....

Well no-one here is M's mother, so no-one needs to be giving her maternal advice. But if anyone I knew asked me for advice about getting back into their line of work after nine years out of it, I'd probably ask how things have changed in that time and whether they're up to date with all the latest ideas and what they're going to do to refresh their skills and knowledge.

Which is fine. But the pint was would you belittle the career they had before and suggest only fans?

Simple.....New series of the Crown with Meghan playing well Meghan.

No need to get into character and would be a huge draw. Would be hugely controversial but would get the producers massive ratings.

As an aside, the BBC described the gentleman a series "about a Duke who becomes a gangster involved in drugs" (sorry not exact words but drugs/duke/gangster where featured words. 🤔

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0l5d387j18o

"Duke who becomes a drug baron"

I most certainly don’t hate Meghan. Nor Harry, although I don’t care for him much at all.
The main reason for this is the giant Fuck You they have given to my country, whilst denigrating us to the world that we are racist when we have a proud tradition of welcoming generations of immigrants here and helping them assimilate and create a truly multicultural nation.
Running a close second is the hypocrisy they have shown and the disrespect to the late Queen and Prince Philip in their last years.
And their complete inability to acknowledge why it might be that they are unpopular here. Can’t speak for why that also appears to be the case in the USA, mind.
And one last thing, it’s really pissing me off at the moment the way Harry keeps referring to this as a feud/fight. That implies a two-way street but I can’t see where William has even acknowledged him, let alone thrown any bombs back in Harry’s direction. Grey rock all the way and he’s living his best life without him.

I'm not a big fan of her's but good on her for earning her keep.

Sorry, one last thing It's important to be clear that I haven't necessarily worked regularly and done better than a lot of my actor friends because I'm bloody good at it, there are friends I have from drama school who were better actors than me who didn't get regular work and had to leave the industry. A friend I have from drama school who has gone on to have international fame will readily say themselves they weren't the best in the class.

It is a very precarious industry and getting parts relies on timing, casting type and luck as well as talent. Which is why I find it depressing to have people gleefully look down their noses at someone who was 6th on the cast sheet for 7 years in a US mid-hit tv show with international syndication, even before it was put on Netflix. If you think that is a poor showing, there's not much hope for the rest of us.

the unhinged comments trying to claim she was not a successful actress when she very much was 🤣

Not sure why my post got deleted? Clearly someone didn't like being criticised.

Quite. @EmpressSisi & co have been really reaching there.

I think it’s the hyperbole people are reacting to. Perhaps it was better known in the US but in the UK Suits was shown on Dave, a minor terrestrial entertainment channel, i.e. not one of the “Big Four”. It wasn’t massively popular, most people wouldn’t have been aware of it unless they watched Dave. Meghan was the love interest for a main character, she didn’t really have her own story lines except when it was decided to promote her from paralegal to law student.

I think it’s fair to say Meghan was a successful actress but not that she was the star of a hugely popular show.

I haven't seen the hyperbole but I've read a lot of downplaying.

The show was pretty successful in the US, and for it to be shown in the UK as well as other countries too is a sign that it was successful, given this was before streamers became a big thing.

It doesn't matter if she didn't really have her own story lines except when it was decided to promote her from paralegal to law student: the fact is she got her own storyline then and it was reasonably early in the series. As someone else said, her father was then introduced as a recurring character with a legal storyline.

You're being reductive by implying she was 'just' the love interest. It was hardly like we only saw her character in the bedroom. The vast majority of her scenes were her at work in her office doing her job.

Believe me when I say we get a lot of very substandard tv from the US, a showing on UK television is not an indication of quality.

Yes, her character got her own storyline, as did other minor characters. However Rachel’s main function was to give Mike Ross another dimension.

When her screen father was written into the series, he became the story, not her.

Rachel was nearly written out early on, Meghan didn’t like the way the story was going for her character and lobbied hard for the plot to follow a different course.

That’s where her skill lies, she’s an impressive self promoter.

I'm a UK TV actress, so I believe you that we get substandard tv from the US, but I wasn't talking about the quality of Suits, which was good anyway, but how well it did in the US. It did fine.

Rachel wasn't a minor character though. Most of her storylines revolved around working on cases. Her father’s storyline was tied in with her. Being No 6 on the cast list in a long-running show is an achievement that most actors would be very happy with.

What's your source for Rachel nearly being written out early on? I've googled and can't find that.

It's bemusing that the people who are most adamant that Suits wasn't well known at all seem to allegedly know an awful damn lot about the ins and outs of it.

I didn’t say Rachel was a minor character, I said that other minor characters also got their own storylines.

I can’t help you with Google, I only know what I’ve read/heard from the show’s
writers.

If you read my earlier post you’ll see I said it was fair to say she was successful. I just think the reach of the show, and therefore her status in the wider acting world, is exaggerated by some.

Your use of the word "other" in that sentence was misleading. It implied you think Rachel is also a minor character, as opposed to saying Rachel and some minor characters.

I find it very hard to believe that Aaron Korsh said that, and only Aaron Korsh would have been a legitimate source of him. One of my actor friends in the US is friendly with him, and I've read and watched a lot of interviews with Korsh about Suits and never seen that said. But even if it's true, and Meghan was able to talk herself into staying, they clearly valued her as an actress. It's one thing to talk the talk, you have to walk the walk. You didn't keep a role for that long as a female actor on US in those days without them being happy with your performance and/or your character being popular.

Of course it is fair to say she was successful, that's objectively true, although it's magnanimous of you to admit that

Yes her status in the acting world and the reach of the show may be exaggerated by some, but as we can clearly see here in black and white, it's also dismissed and downplayed a lot out of scorn for Meghan Markle and, in some cases, a clear disrespect and lack of understanding about the acting industry.

She really wasn’t name check famous before Harry.

I’m in the US and I was a big fan of the first four series of Suits and when I first saw the headline that Harry was dating an actress from Suits called Meghan Markle I was intrigued and had to Google her because I didn’t know which of the various female actresses it would be (apart from Gina Torres who I knew from Firefly.)

My first thought when it was revealed she was giving up acting for Harry was that it was a real shame - she’d just broken into the level of acting - a series regular - which could be a spring board to more.

When you look back at the parts before Suits it’s clear she’s got hustle and a work ethic but a lot of the standard of acting wasn’t great. But by Suits she was finally coming into her own.

What’s bizarre is the way some of her fans talk about her being a famous Hollywood actress before Harry - like Jennifer Garner, Gwyneth Paltrow or Kristen Bell.

She was / is probably not going to be a Meryl Streep or Emily Blunt or Emma Stone etc but I could have seen her getting more roles like her friend Abigail Spencer who was also on Suits and has gone on to have an extensive TV career.

Unfortunately the thing that made her famous - marrying into the royal family - is now her biggest impediment to being able to take the risks needed to explore her acting chops as she’s under too much scrutiny.

Not “admitting”, confirming what I have always said. You’re picking a fight unnecessarily with the wrong poster.

Didn’t he incongruously invite them along to some launch of a second series Cary Mulligan was in? Maybe he knows that MM attract’s attention and that’s enough to boost a series - he could be using them. Also they are on ‘first look’ so it’s in their interest to ask ‘How high’ when he says ‘Jump’

Invites to parties don't mean much. Ted Sarandos is not a fool and isn't going to throw good money after bad with these clowns.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the 'Gentlemen' rumour was agreed with Meghan as a way to drum up interest in series two which coincidentally (?) is just set to launch. It also gives her something of an 'excuse' for returning to Britain, so it's beneficial for both. Otherwise, it would be odd if Guy Ritchie was already casting for a series which hasn't even been greenlit yet.

I also wouldn't be surprised if a 'return to England' 'documentary' is in the works. The visit to Althorp may have been part of that too. That's why it might work in the Sussexes' favour to live away from a royal estate where Netflix cameras wouldn't be given permission to enter. I guess we'll see!

"Admitting" was me being tongue in cheek, not suggesting that you hadn't said that previously, but being droll about your tone, which had given off airs of you being the authoritative arbiter and proclaiming what is what, when objectively it's clear.

I am defensive about my industry and how actresses are viewed. @EmpressSisi in particular talked about Meghan's time in Suits in a way that suggested Meghan wasn't successful because she wasn't the lead and wasn't in every scene and it wasn't that huge a hit.

It gave the impression she thinks those of us are regularly make a living for years through acting on TV and are in the main cast but never the lead, and don't have international name recognition, are not successful at our job.

When in reality, the percentages and statistics are such that if you are able to earn a living and support yourself and your family over 7 years through acting on screen without a second job, you categorically are a success in the industry. Only about 2% of actors are able to earn a consistent living through TV and film acting.

To suggest that actors aren't successful unless they have the star role in an international hit is disrespectful to actors as a whole. I am lucky enough to be able to support my family for years through consistent TV roles as main cast in different series, but it seems Empress Sisi would dismiss that and not see me as doing well in m career because I haven't had a starring role in a big hit.

So yes Meghan was unequivocally successful in her acting career. To suggest otherwise (which I agree you personally didn't do, dontlookatme) is either ignorance about the industry or a deliberate ill-willed attempt to disregard facts.