Can we allow Harry and Meghan a clean sheet

[Noras]

Just that really.

When they come back should we just judge them by their future behaviour, not the past and try to be positive.

After the events of the last few days with Jason Arday it might help the RF if the media and social media allowed them to get on with things in a positive way. Frankly the only person who should be aggrieved is the Princess of Wales and maybe the King but he clearly want peace now what with his illness.

Let’s see if they can be positive and an asset to the UK and the RF.

One thing they did rather recently was leak details about a private meeting then blame it on KC’s staff. They leaked, lied and could have had severe consequences for the livelihood of palace staff if they’d been believed.

We know a great deal about them, from various interviews, magazine articles, Netflix programmes etc that they have actively engaged in.
I judge people who claim that their child wouldn't get a title because of racism in the RF, yet here we are: Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet.

Bread and circuses was about providing entertainment to the plebs. The emperors pandered to them by providing free food and entertainment. There was a balance of power there - the emperor had to keep the mob happy, so that his political rivals couldn't turn them against him.

Which is to say, KC3 doesn't get to do what he likes, and who he is seen with now IS our business. If HAM are being backed by anti-Monarchists, they have just landed a hefty blow on the Monarchy. KC3 is now in a really tricky situation where he can be attacked for compromising his constitutional role if he is seen to be too close with H, and attacked for being a oetty, uncaring, unforgiving, unChristian father if he keeps his distance.

I think they've run out of money. I wonder if they'll do a Netflix type series on their return and settling into UK life. Could spin them some money.

I'm ready to forgive as don't give a flying fig on the he said she said drama, just find it all mildly amusing.

No. They can stay in the US.

We need the laugh emoji back.

You mean we should cultivate stupidity?

😂😂

Change their ways how?

I mean, they were told to stop relying on “taxpayers” so they did that. But every attempt they made at bringing in money they were berated for. They were told to make amends with their family, to visit the ailing King, but every time they did they were told they were doing it wrong. They were lambasted for not showing off their children, but whenever they do, they don’t do it right. They are told to stay out of the limelight but their every move is dissected whether they want it or not.

Nobody wants them to act in any way other than what we have come to expect by the royal family, and yet everyone wants to claim they aren’t real royals so how dare they use their titles.

People are annoyed and upset about them laying bare what it can be like to be within the royal establishment, but Diana did the same thing and she was beloved. So much so that people still believe the establishment killed her. We hear comments all the time about concerns for Catherine being so thin and how is her life affecting her, but nobody joins the dots when Harry claims they got out before Meghan went down the same path?

There is a willingness to ignore the long known truth about each principal’s PR teams working against each other to vilify their “competition” but when Harry is open about it he is accused of lying.

People are happy to ignore the horrific actions of the family in protecting Andrew, their links with the likes of Saville (something King Charles has never addressed), Mandleson, Peter Ball.

The cognitive dissonance when it comes to Harry and Meghan is astonishing and nobody has ever been able to quite explain why.

The fact is, they can’t win no matter what they do.

You thing not making judgments on people you barely know is stupid?

Past behaviour is the best predictor of future behaviour.

So no, they don't get a 'clean sheet'.

We did when they got married at great expense

we all wishes them well and supported them

then they slagged off Britian and fled to freedom

This

Ummm….. they have given many many many hours of invterviews… releasing statements for public consumption. Have you been living under a rock?

Thwy didnt try that hard to make money
all they have done is sell their stories (burning bridges with the family) via Netflix, oprah, the book

oh and some jam. Was that really a realistic business move?

they didnt need to live in a huge fuck off mansion. They could have made better choices

People you barely know? Yes
Harry and Meghan who make a point of sharing details of their lives (sometimes a little too much)? No.

Utter bollocks.

You have proven that yourself because you follow up your comment with something that was never actually said. You are believing a narrative that has been oft repeated, which is based on an interpretation of an interview they gave rather than the in context of the questions that they were asked.

Ask yourself this, both William and Harry have a group of very close friends who have said who they actually are and spoken about what they are like. Do you believe William’s friends? Why not believe Harry’s?

If you believe you know people because you have seen them on Netflix, I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.

“I hope for their sake that it is just a rumour and they don’t come back after the heinous way they were treated“

They are coming back to the heinous UK it’s all over the newspapers and tv! Hypocrites both of them.

It is the cornerstone of modern democracy.

Utter bollocks.
They said to Oprah that Archie wouldn't get titles because of the colour of his skin.
You can check what they've actually said. Not what you imagine

It's not hard to find. Look up "Oprah interview".
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If you think Harry and Meghan haven't lied, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Andrew shared many intimate details of his life, did you know who he was?

Ruby Franke shared her entire life yet nobody apparently know the depth of abuse of her children.

You do now know them, no matter how much information you read about them, and it’s frankly bizarre you would spend so much time watching them / reading about them to “get to know them” given how much you dislike them.

It's frankly bizarre that you make such strange judgements about me personally.
You don't know me.
Practise what you preach.

Blimey. The H&M fans are in full throttle defence today. It's a shame that some people consider the Sussexes to be above reproach. Is it because they're royal and some of us won't kow tow?.

She also said that the Archbishop of Canterbury married them in their back garden.

She glossed over the fact that great grandchildren of the monarch were not given "prince" titles in any situation and that was nothing to do with skin colour. Charles became king and ta-da, the titles are granted.

She said the palace took her passport away yet still managed plenty of international travel.

He said in Spare that he was at school when the queen mother died when there are pictures of him skiing in Switzerland with his dad and brother the say before.

They did not actually say that. Have you looked it up?

Find me the response from Meghan that said “they were not going to be given titles because of the colour of their skin”.