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Can we allow Harry and Meghan a clean sheet

337 replies

Noras · 20/08/2026 12:21

Just that really.

When they come back should we just judge them by their future behaviour, not the past and try to be positive.

After the events of the last few days with Jason Arday it might help the RF if the media and social media allowed them to get on with things in a positive way. Frankly the only person who should be aggrieved is the Princess of Wales and maybe the King but he clearly want peace now what with his illness.

Let’s see if they can be positive and an asset to the UK and the RF.

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Nihongo · 23/08/2026 15:26

OliveMyLove · 23/08/2026 14:07

It was an odd choice to describe the wedding this way in an interview sure to go global. I can see saying it to a friend. But they chose or perhaps even demanded the spectacle then mocked it.

When people demand know why they are disliked it baffles that they don’t see how off-putting and obnoxious they’ve been. They aren’t special, anyone speaking this way would end up offending many people.

Look at Timothée Chalamet’s recent debacle pitting the movies against ballet and opera. He lost public respect with just one little thoughtless remark and those offended will see it as a character defining moment.

Last night my aged father told me he couldn’t stand Frank Sinatra. He doesn’t remember exactly why but said he thought too much of himself.

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Exactly - the other thing is they both would have had extensive media training, her as an actress, him as a royal. They know well that what they say will be written about and scrutinised. They are not naive.

That bit about the wedding seemed like a petty little dig at the British public when they had decided to walk away - they couldn’t help but trash everything they left behind. I’m more annoyed at him, the gormless idiot who sat beside her and let her spew this nonsense, and didn’t say anything.

I can decide if it’s delusion or arrogance, or maybe both.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 23/08/2026 16:04

Baital · 23/08/2026 11:11

Many decades ago I worked in a day centre for adults with learning disabilities. One service user would come into the busy canteen and say, very loudly "stop looking at me, everyone!"

Whereupon, of course, everyone would turn and look at her 😀

I get similar vibes from some of H&M's announcements 😂

You and the creators of South Park both 😂.

Can we allow Harry and Meghan a clean sheet
rocklivia · 23/08/2026 17:02

sunflowersintheday · 20/08/2026 13:06

The BBC have just shown the clip of Harry saying that he couldn't bring his wife and children to be UK because it's not safe. That was May 2025.
I'm guessing, for some reason, it's all safe now?

This just sums up what a hypocrite he is.

ERthree · 23/08/2026 18:17

Msbond667 · 20/08/2026 16:44

Are you living under a rock? A huge.number of people are racist in this country. Especially the right wing media. If you think otherwise then im sorry you are a fool.

You are right and they come in every colour.

ERthree · 23/08/2026 18:25

ABitFab · 21/08/2026 23:31

So many haters not just Mumsnet. Prove us wrong 😑

Facts aren't hate.

Rhaidimiddim · 23/08/2026 19:37

rocklivia · 23/08/2026 17:02

This just sums up what a hypocrite he is.

Unless something is afoot that puts him and/or his family in peril if they stay in the USA.

ETA so tgat the UK becones comparatively safer.

Bigcat25 · 23/08/2026 20:10

OliveMyLove · 23/08/2026 14:07

It was an odd choice to describe the wedding this way in an interview sure to go global. I can see saying it to a friend. But they chose or perhaps even demanded the spectacle then mocked it.

When people demand know why they are disliked it baffles that they don’t see how off-putting and obnoxious they’ve been. They aren’t special, anyone speaking this way would end up offending many people.

Look at Timothée Chalamet’s recent debacle pitting the movies against ballet and opera. He lost public respect with just one little thoughtless remark and those offended will see it as a character defining moment.

Last night my aged father told me he couldn’t stand Frank Sinatra. He doesn’t remember exactly why but said he thought too much of himself.

Edited

Yes I read that they damned to have the same spent on their wedding as W and C, with extra added on for inflation. And then belittled the event.

bitontheobtuse · 23/08/2026 23:05

I try, I really do. But I've now read several of these 'H&M returning' threads and I am rapidly losing the will to live the small quantity of interest I had to begin with. The more I read, the less I care.

Is it just me, or is it happening to anyone else as well?

BemusedAmerican · 23/08/2026 23:23

Rhaidimiddim · 22/08/2026 22:10

Are we still allowed to refer to pigeons these days on RF threads?

Now we use the term "rock doves".

rocklivia · 24/08/2026 01:03

Rhaidimiddim · 23/08/2026 19:37

Unless something is afoot that puts him and/or his family in peril if they stay in the USA.

ETA so tgat the UK becones comparatively safer.

Edited

What could that be?

Lugol · 24/08/2026 17:17

Arday was a total fantasist who tried to have anyone who pointed this out shut down so not sure why you're deifying him OP.

Harry and Meghan have desperately courted the media by making a career out of slagging off Harry's family.
I'm sure if they keep their heads down and don't keep shoving themselves into the public eye then people will forget about them like the total nonentities they are.

GreenCandleWax · 24/08/2026 22:37

BoredZelda · 20/08/2026 17:46

I have watched the interview. I also read the transcript. They did not say what you are claiming.

Where did I say they were beyond reproach? I’m a believer of forming opinions on actual facts rather than flawed media narratives. I don’t know them, they might actually be the worst people in the world, they might be all the things everyone wants to claim about them. But until that is actually proven by the actual things they say and do rather than something “a source close to them” said, I’ll keep an open mind. Harry’s memoir opened up a window about how he felt within the family, that’s his lived experience. I’d love to hear the alternative view from someone who thrived in that environment, that would be an interesting read. We know that the other most famous spare has some issues over her life, facing many of the same scenarios that Harry did, and yet in the end she defended the family. Her own story would be a fascinating read. From a mental health point of view, it would be a good subject to explore.

I’m more interested in the reasons people choose to take sides, believing everything they read. The media narrative that saturates everything is “William = good, Harry = bad.” That has always been the case to an extent but it ramped up massively when he met Meghan. If we go back to when William first met Kate, he was doing something unthinkable, potentially brining a “commoner” into the family. The way the press treated Kate and her family was appalling. She was hounded and abused, and yet now she is perfect. William said absolutely nothing publicly about that at the time, he didn’t defend her much, or stand up to the press. Indeed, he appeared to distance himself from her for a while. At no point was he accused of doing anything wrong by considering doing something so terrible to the Royal Family. Yet in Harry’s choice of partner, he was as much the problem as she was. Arguably his partner is way less important as she will never been Queen, so what is it that makes it so terrible that he was brining her into the family. Nobody has ever been able to explain that, other than to make up things that neither of them ever said or did.

People use the Oprah interview as if that is their origin story, ignoring everything that happened before then. Why would that be? It simply doesn’t make sense that so many people so ardently hate a couple who they don’t know, unless there is something else going on that I don’t know about.

You seem to have selective memory. When they first got engaged the country was happy and delighted for them - same wth the wedding - so much good will for them both. He was very popular then, and the country was happy for him when they married. The fact that it went wrong is down to them. They sank very low in how they behaved, hurt a lot of people and didn't know when to stop digging themselves into an ever deeper hole - the Oprah interview and his book in particular.

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