PR disasters thread 27

[BigWillyLittleTodger]

A shiny new thread to continue the chat on the Sussexes summer shenanigans!

What fresh pile of steaming shite is this ?
I would be ashamed if I were Meghan and the press were reporting stuff like this.

I think H&M do have a problem with all this leaking. Isn't it proven they leaked the balcony shot with Meredith Maines to back up their reconciliation story.

I think as many have said H is desperate to be back somewhat within the royal fold and knows his father is his best chance. W, I wouldn't blame him or indeed C , if they never truly reconciled. What is the saying - "More people worship the rising than the setting sun". W pretty much holds all the cards for H's long term future with the RF and H would have been wise to think about this when doing his docuseries and book , OW interview etc for vast amounts of money. I suppose at the time it felt like they were being feted and having money thrown at them from all sides ( which they were TBF) - but I'll bet it doesn't look quite such a great idea in hindsight.

I love that "More people worship the rising than the setting sun". @BasiliskStare

The Martha Stewart clap back is embarrassing. Why even say anything? She's definitely not going to win that battle and will just be shunned even more by the a list crowd

Not just dim but lazy as well, no amount of private schooling can teach a child who is too lazy, pompous, entitled and thick to achieve reasonable standards.

They assumed they would never need the RF. if they were clever people, they would have done something productive with all the money they earned but they are unbelievably stupid, have zero talent, nothing to offer

And Martha very much respected. Big mistake to mess with her

The RF clapbacks (service is universal) and the Martha clapback are both symptoms of HaM's foundational inability to let things go.

In any long-term relationship people make mistakes...no one is perfect. That is why we extend grace to family and friends who have disappointed us and we depend on that same grace to be extended to us when we mess up...for example by forgetting someone's birthday or accidentally hurting someone's feelings.

HaM demand forgiveness but do not seem to extend it. Any perceived infraction is met with a Defcon 1 overreaction! That's no way to build relationships either personally (Royal Family) or professionally (Martha Stewart).

If Meg assumes Martha is a daft, forgetful old bird, then that's even more of a reason so shrug it off and let it go. Absolutely Meg was blowing about her visit and whip smart Martha heard every word. More importantly, who on earth would consider Meg an interesting dinner guest ? 🤔

It’s pretty sad really, her boasting about tea with the King when at a dinner party with A listers (or indeed if it had just been a low key one). Everyone knows she’s Harry’s wife/daughter in law to the King. You’d have had to be living on Mars to be unaware of eg the Oprah interview or the Netflix series even if you haven’t watched them or read any of the numerous articles about them. So what - “have you had a nice holiday Meghan?” “Oh yes, we took A&L to tea with The King so they could spend time with their Grandfather….”

Eyes glazing over already!

Then what - does she have a moan ? “And do you know?? They made me and A&L wait in the hallway while H went in to spend private time with his father!!” The outrage!

I’m sure a lot of the A listers would love to meet the King, didn’t someone say Martha Stewart had been at one of the events when the King was in the USA? But that’s not the same as being impressed that Meghan got to spend half an hour with him. Especially if she is in victim mode about some slight or another. I suppose one might listen in amazement, confirming whatever one’s preconceptions were and go away laughing that she’s STILL COMPLAINING!

I’m sure a lot of the A listers would love to meet the King

Absolutely. And they know full well that attaching themselves to meghan is defintely NOT the way to do it 😆 that's why they are pretty much shunned by anyone who's anyone

Here we go. KC may bail Harry out 🙄

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There seems to be an increasing desperation from HAM for some sort of contact/acknowledgement of them from the Wales family. Harry seems unable to understand that the PPoW don't want any contact with them.

I expect Meghan wants the big "money" photos to keep her relevant- HAM and PPoW or especially the Wales' children with the Sussex children. But I have seen several accounts of the Highgrove reunion meeting that say Harry was genuinely shocked that none of the Wales family were there.

Harry also seems to be a man that doesn't understand normal boundaries with other people's children and has expressed wishes to intervene in William and Catherine's parenting. When promoting Spare he talked in a Telegraph interview about needing to intervene with Charlotte and Louis because at least one would be just like him:
"And though William and I have talked about it once or twice, and he has made it very clear to me that his kids are not my responsibility, I still feel a responsibility knowing that out of those three children, at least one will end up like me, the spare. And that hurts, that worries me."

Several biographers have commented about Harry's self proclaimed "worries" about the Wales children but also an obsession with being overshadowed and replaced by them.

I can see why William may not want him around the kids.

And that's the problem. Once he's back in with KC and he, Meg and kids are photographed with him, it's then onto Will and C and their 3. Constant leaks, hamlets so upset they can't be friends with their cousins, blah blah

I cannot envisage any circumstances where HAM and the HAMlets are photographed alongside the Wales family .
Any event where attendance is unavoidable ( KC funeral) the MIGS will ensure there is a giant candle or feather carefully positioned.

Ffs

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I hope if nothing else has been learned from HLMTQ's generally acknowledged misstep in bailing out AMW , KC paying H's legal bill would be a very black mark against him for many ( of those who care ). Now I could see a sort of fudge where H has to pay his own legal bill and KC commits to the childrens' school fees or something. But I really really hope he does not pay bill for a case it is reported he advised his son against , and having lost his son railed against the judiciary.

I am hoping this is clickbait. Harry could find this money , it might leave him a bit short , but I can't believe he couldn't find it.

I also think H is whistling in the wind at the moment thinking there's going to be a happy Wales Sussex reunion. & if he can't see why he's even more stupid than I thought. Apart from anything else , dog bowls , C is racist , lipgloss , Bridesmaidgate - just that vignette in the H&M docuseries when he said he's had a text from W and it was made out to be dreadful , without saying what it was. Puerile and unnecessary.

& I'm absolutely with @Lunde re H shouldn't be commenting on W's parenting. I reckon with the Middleton grandparents and C's experience of a decent family life H , nor M have anything to offer on that front.

But the pair of them seem to think they need to make their every half arsed pronouncement public - so , what do you do 😂 Well - laugh 😊I do. & thank you to everyone who (inter alia ) makes me giggle on these threads as well.

I hope if nothing else has been learned from HLMTQ's generally acknowledged misstep in bailing out AMW , KC paying H's legal bill would be a very black mark against him for many ( of those who care )

It would be even worse if it was discovered that Charles had charged it to the public purse, @Lunde, but realistically we may never find out

Then again we probably weren't supposed to find out that the late Queen had tried to tap funds for the disadvantaged to pay for palace heating, so ...

I love that line that W made it very clear that H didn't need to get involved in the Wales's DC upbringing. Absolutely. He has missed most of their childhood and is hardly a good model of an adult royal. They are surrounded by decent people who understand how it works.

Regarding these clap backs do they not get that commenting in this way simply adds more fuel to the fire? And it also shows us that they read everything and are bothered by it. It also demonstrates when they don’t clap back that they are endorsing the articles as correct. It just seems such a terrible PR strategy. Rising above would just be so much more dignified.

I see the 'source' is speaking to Closer again.

LOL. Within that article is a link to another article, very similar in tone, except it’s Sarah Ferguson and AMW hoping the birth of another grandchild will help “heal the feud” !!! It’s too funny.
Poor old Charles had better retire to Windsor and pull up the drawbridge (if there is one). Or line up the guards all around it. He’s being besieged by grifters hoping to heal the feud!

Screenshots to save clicks. 😂

I’m happy he’s happy when the children’s names are mentioned. I’d expect nothing less of the King.

Christ almighty 😅 I'd say at times KC wishes he didn't just hand it all straight to William