PR disasters thread 23

[BigWillyLittleTodger]

Let the games continue…….

I doubt it ! But I found a judge saying the contents would be damaging to Harry’s reputation, very , very intriguing!!

I heard that there was a hold-up in the.paper work, the lawyer refusing to finalise on the Archewell side of things.

I imagine Catherine (and William) are more than happy not to have the sister in law tagging along. Anyway I don't think either of them are particularly interested in tennis, I don't ever recall seeing Harry at Wimbledon and I think Meghan only went when she was still friends with Serena, plus for the kudos. The Wales are true fans, especially Catherine, who of course is Patron of Wimbledon.

Is she no longer friends with Serena?

I think it's too early to say how the KC QC meeting went for Harry ( and how apposite also the acronyms for senior barristers this week 😂) & of course we won't know - as it should be.
I don't believe for a minute KC would countenance splitting DoL between W&H. Does he want that as part of his legacy and I'm fairly sure he wouldn't be allowed to. Nor do I believe KC would offer to pay H's ANL expenses - by accounts he advised H against it and it wouldn't look good if it came out. I suspect it was more of a lovely to see you and , look, Darling boy you can visit quietly without the sound and fury - shall we do it like this more often .
We'll see if there is Sussex leakage, if there is absolutely none , that's one thing.

In time if HAM are running short of funds , in their terms not any normal person's , I could imagine KC shoving a bit towards school fees ( which I expect are eyewateringly expensive for chi chi schools where they live ) but I can't see him writing blank cheques for them. He's been irritated before by H thinking he is a bank.

ETA I'm not talking about H's success or not for the whole week visit - that's a different post.

I think Serena seems to have cooled it. Venus is definitely not a fan, nor is the mother. Serena's new best appears to be the Marchioness of Bath.

I think project thaw is very much project foot in the door. Now they've done this meeting there is already talk of more regular visits. Assuming future visits will not be accompanied by the will they/won't they, and arguments about accommodation there will however be developments with regard to what accommodation is offered. They can't really have the family bunkered in the Buckingham palace building site shut away from all friends and family on a regular basis - it will just look very mean. Of course what Harry wants is to get back to having the run of his old stomping grounds. Windsor, Balmoral, Sandringham.
I very much doubt William will want them staying at Windsor, but what can you do? C&C won't want them staying at Clarence House. If they stayed at Windsor there would then be pressure on the Wales's to get the cousins together. The children are absolutely the bargaining tool here. There is St James palace of course or possibly somewhere at Kensington palace.
Balmoral they could put them in one of the cottages in the grounds but could hardly then exclude them from family picnics and activities.
Even without any balcony appearances, or any Royal duties, they would end up back in the heart of the family.

Furthermore I bring news from the Cotswolds, living not a million miles away from Tetbury. I went to Church this morning. The theme was brotherly division and reconciliation, with readings about Jacob and Esau. Genesis 25 19-34 if you are interested. Then the sermon discussing the story and other stories of brotherly disputes and reconciliation. Forgiveness, peace and love.
This is not a coincidence!! The vicar is a great supporter of The King.

Hmmm. There is no way of I were William that I would have anything to do with Harry ever again.

From the royal family's perspective, I think this is the worst time possible for them to increase contact with Harry. More and more stories will come out now that the ANL case is over and does the Palace really want to look like it condones some of the stories about Harry's behaviour? Obviously up to Charles but I think he's making a mistake. If he does reconcile he's going to end up alienating the royal family's core support.

Plus, Harry has shared all the shit he has to share. He has nothing left but petulance and posing. He can’t threaten to tell what he has already shared. Which makes him weaker still.

Funny, after Tuesday, was project thaw was a no! Now talk of it again. pressure now on POW

Me neither. I think this is a mistake. They have repeatedly shown they cannot be trusted. KC has erred I think. Kicked the problem down the line to William. After what Harry said about the judge there should have been no meeting on this occasion.

I know from my own experience , sadly , there is a difference between how an errant son is treated , rather than an errant sibling. I have sympathy with KC but equally I have sympathy with W. I hope he won't be bounced into reconciling with his brother. Cordiality , politeness , yes , but not backslapping - Ach forget about all the shit you spewed out about me , my father , my wife , my children and using our mother for your own popularity - yep it's fine mate. I suspect W will forgive but not forget.

Unfortunately we will see them over quite a lot now. He will use the excuse that he's visiting Althorp but he'll wangle a meeting with KC as kids want to see him

Your missing one crucial bit of information that noone has but could assume is that they if they have good wealth managers who have invested in the markets or broad indices over the years, they would be generating passive incomes in the millions in annual dividends and capital gains.

As you said noone knows the finer details but its safe to presume they do otherwise they would have run out of cash long before now.

I doubt very much that William will even ever be cordial to either of them again, I don’t think he will ever see them again apart from at a family funeral, I certainly wouldn’t if my brother had printed in a book that my spouse was racist just to name one thing, let alone the avalanche of other personal attacks over the years all in the public glare, and it’s not just the Wales family who would be affected, I don’t think William would tolerate a bully being brought back either, that would reflect terribly on the Palace.

Problem is BP have to cater for the ill educated, we see examples of this writing for our papers and national broadcaster.

I've not risen to the bait, but if this were true then there is no way they would have visiting KC incognito.

Nor me. I'm afraid I'm not a very good Christian when it comes to forgiveness.
I think there is too much forgiveness these days, which usually equates to sweeping past events under the rug and demanding people "move on" or whichever the popular buzz word of the day are, not letting bitterness take over your life unless your name is Harry etc.
In my opinion in order for there to be forgiveness there should be true repentance, a meaningful apology and commitment to change. It wasn't long ago H&M were the ones holding out for an apology from the Royal family. 🙄
Of course we don't know what passed between the King and Harry (and Meghan). Maybe they did offer a fulsome apology and commitment to change. Harry might even mean it but I doubt Meghan would.
The fact remains they are both completely untrustworthy, especially Meghan. Harry might just be happy to be back in with the family but Meghan is likely to be taking notes and photos ready for her divorce book. She absolutely can't be trusted.

I feel very sorry for William and Catherine if they are bounced into having to accept them back.

If I were PW, I would not only find slagging off my spouse unforgivable but making me potentially miss a last few moments with my dying grandmother.

Either they employ Lionel Hutz, or Megs fancies herself as a legal eagle after Suits and does it herself, because all their legal work is filed late and has mistakes - eg business paperwork for setting up new things, copyright and names for companies etc. If I had it in for them, I'd check everything they ever submitted as there'd be a good chance of a reason to send it back for corrections.

And let’s not forget the pair insulted this country. Spectacle. Racists. Sorry I won’t forget that in a hurry. A nasty pair. No thanks.

There are too many folk around who are very quick to say BE KIND and look askance at anyone who doesn't immediately agree, where it then comes out later that BE KIND is only ever intended to work in one direction. They intend to keep being as self absorbed and self centred as ever 🤔

Agreed. I think William will walk out of the funeral service for his father (hopefully years away) and be thinking that he is now, finally, done. The MIGS will handle all communications with Harry from then.

Risen to what bait?

I am just highlighting that with tha much wealth there are usually wealth managers behind the scences making sure the money generates money. You don't even have to be at level of wealth to know that compounding is king and with a reasonable amoutn of money over 10-25yrs even stuck in something like the S&P 500 with an average return rate of 10% you can grow money passively. Imagine what returns you get if you have millions of pounds invested.

As I said its not confirmed but if we are speculating then this is my thought.

Harry has said he would still like a relationship with his father thats all I take from that visit its a private family visit. Again noone knows what was discussed so its then only pure speculation he went begging for money.