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The royal family

PR disasters thread 23

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 11/07/2026 23:05

Let the games continue…….

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BasiliskStare · 12/07/2026 13:44

As an aside I find it wryly amusing a course for Chanel students was used as cover for the HAM meeting. Nearest she's been to couture for a while 😂

bluegreygreen · 12/07/2026 13:56

BasiliskStare · 12/07/2026 13:44

As an aside I find it wryly amusing a course for Chanel students was used as cover for the HAM meeting. Nearest she's been to couture for a while 😂

Brilliant - hadn't even noticed that 😂

Strawberriesandcaviar · 12/07/2026 13:56

BasiliskStare · 12/07/2026 13:44

As an aside I find it wryly amusing a course for Chanel students was used as cover for the HAM meeting. Nearest she's been to couture for a while 😂

😂😂😂😂😂

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2026 13:58

BasiliskStare · 12/07/2026 13:44

As an aside I find it wryly amusing a course for Chanel students was used as cover for the HAM meeting. Nearest she's been to couture for a while 😂

Oh Chanel!! , I stupidly thought it was channel !! 🤣

HoldMyWine · 12/07/2026 14:01

I thought channel as well

Mylovelygreendress · 12/07/2026 14:07

Starryfifty · 12/07/2026 13:29

Why do you think Meg doesn't want back ? What else does she have ?

Meghan is intensely jealous of Catherine so there is no way she will return and have to walk behind Camilla AND Catherine .
I do think this uncharacteristic silence from Meghan must be very difficult for her and the only reason I can think why she agreed to visit the U.K. is because funds are low .
Knowing how much she loves status and being photographed, it must be galling for her that there has not been I photograph of her .

Starryfifty · 12/07/2026 14:10

HAM have not even issued anything resembling an apology to William and C, in fact more of "I have no regrets " spin. This week must be very upsetting for them

Lunde · 12/07/2026 14:10

AnAutumnCrow · 12/07/2026 11:58

I think at the ‘bee, fly, wasp’ level (Lord Chamberlain, Private Secretary types) they will actually be the ones who are expected to bat away the annoying noise from the spare and rather over-ripe fruit of Charles’s loins.

Palace aide Theo Rycroft is a puzzle, though. What’s in it for him if there’s a Sussex ‘reconciliation’? What’s in it for him leaking comments designed to piss off William? One to watch 👀

(Let’s not forget the Theo Rycroft story in May about reuniting the princes was brought to us by Charlotte Griffiths when she was still part of the Sussex WhatsApp group. It was clearly a result of both Rycroft and Harry leaking like crazy to Griffiths. See link below.)

And what is the point of all this nonsense anyway? Nothing will stop William being the heir, being the king, being in control of one duchy now and the other later. Nothing will stop his eldest child George having the same path if he wants it, duchies and all.

It has to be about money for Harry. It has to be - there’s no point to any of this otherwise. Harry wants Charles to give him a shit tonne of money to ‘equalise’ him and William. Maybe a big whack like £500 million. Maybe Theo Rycroft has been reading too much Jane Austen and thinks this would be a good idea: a big entailed settlement to make Harry go away. Or maybe, as far as he’s concerned … whatever Charles wants, Charles gets.

Right now, I don’t trust any of them, least of all venal Harry and yes, Charles. I understand @Indianrollerbird’s cynicism, especially after all the leaks and asides from ‘sources’ over the weekend.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/royals/article-15804419/amp/King-aide-mission-heal-William-Harry-rift.html

Theo has some interesting connections - he is married to the Hon Flora Astor and she is also the half sister of Lady Samantha Cameron
https://archive.is/7tID2

He is a lawyer by education - but also interestingly he seems to move job pretty frequently if you look at his CV
https://www.gov.uk/government/people/theo-rycroft

Theo Rycroft CMG LVO

Theo Rycroft CMG LVO

Theo Rycroft was the Minister and Deputy Head of Mission at the British Embassy in Paris from July 2021 to January 2025. From 2018 he was the EU Director in the Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO) in London, leading the FCDO’s engagemen...

https://www.gov.uk/government/people/theo-rycroft

Aprilfountain · 12/07/2026 14:14

Starryfifty · 12/07/2026 13:29

Why do you think Meg doesn't want back ? What else does she have ?

Because she couldn't cope with the fact that she was lower down in the hierarchy than she wanted and the royal duties were way too much like hard work for her, she wants to be Queen bee or nothing!

myverylastnerve · 12/07/2026 14:17

I have been following this thread and have found it really interesting.
I fully expected that Megs would appear at some point this weekend and have been surprised and curious as to why she’s in hiding .
Given that she must polish her solid brass neck every evening I never expected her to stay away and leave Harry in the limelight .

MyGreyLurker · 12/07/2026 14:20

myverylastnerve · 12/07/2026 14:17

I have been following this thread and have found it really interesting.
I fully expected that Megs would appear at some point this weekend and have been surprised and curious as to why she’s in hiding .
Given that she must polish her solid brass neck every evening I never expected her to stay away and leave Harry in the limelight .

Maybe she never came and it's all an elaborate ruse.

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2026 14:23

HoldMyWine · 12/07/2026 14:01

I thought channel as well

Oh good! , atleast I’m not alone! 😁

MrsFinkelstein · 12/07/2026 14:45

PullTheBricksDown · 12/07/2026 12:10

Harry wants Charles to give him a shit tonne of money to ‘equalise’ him and William..

Can well imagine Harry wants this, and that Meghan would encourage and may even have planted the seed of the idea, @AnAutumnCrow , but can't ever see it happening. More feasible in my view is Charles agreeing to funnel them money below the radar, but even then it won't be enough for them, and they're foolish enough to complain even when it makes things worse for them.

I too am puzzled by Rycroft and what his game is. Maybe it's about egotism and being able to arrange the reconciliation that no one else could manage (good luck with that but I don't see William being in a forgiving money for a good while yet if ever). He'd do well to learn from how things have turned out for Chris Ship and Tom Bradby.

Charles may be happy with some kind of personal reconciliation, but there's no way this was anything more than either of the previous 2 visits Harry has had with him, just this time Meghan and the kids came.

William has been reliably quoted as saying he has no issues with his Dad meeting with HaM again but that he wants nothing to do with it.

And I can't see Charles funding them particularly either. He already complained he "wasn't a bank" in regards to them. I'm sure he'll set up some kind of trust fund for the children, and might bung HaM a bit now and again, but he won't fund Invictus.

It's nice that he met the children and saw HaM, but as BP previously said (paraphrasing) "let's not confuse tea & cake for less than an hour with the Treaty of Versailles". Apparently he saw Harry alone first (with Camilla) and then saw Meghan and the children. Hardly a warm welcome.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 12/07/2026 14:46

JSMill · 12/07/2026 12:58

Yes. I think this was H was a bit over the excited at his engagements this week. Meeting with his father makes him think he’s going to be back in the fold.

Agree with this. I think there is a difference between what H thinks it means and what KC thinks it means.

Although the only thing that plays on my mind is how TLHMTQ bailed out Andrew. This has completely tarnished her whole reign, but does it set a precedent?

MrsFinkelstein · 12/07/2026 14:47

I also saw Harry had been a guest on the Joe Marler podcast.

Definitely trying to one up William after he appeared on the Kelce's. They even tried to mimic the "look at all your names & titles!" But it was all a bit flat and forced IMO.

DelectableMe · 12/07/2026 14:49

Aprilfountain · 12/07/2026 13:01

It's all just spin from Hazbeen's side; he wants back in, I doubt his wife does though.

Yes, it was all too much and she kept collapsing and sobbing. Not the role for her. She's become a Trad Wife, she should stick to that.

DelectableMe · 12/07/2026 14:49

MrsFinkelstein · 12/07/2026 14:47

I also saw Harry had been a guest on the Joe Marler podcast.

Definitely trying to one up William after he appeared on the Kelce's. They even tried to mimic the "look at all your names & titles!" But it was all a bit flat and forced IMO.

All he can do is copy. Sad.

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2026 14:51

MrsFinkelstein · 12/07/2026 14:47

I also saw Harry had been a guest on the Joe Marler podcast.

Definitely trying to one up William after he appeared on the Kelce's. They even tried to mimic the "look at all your names & titles!" But it was all a bit flat and forced IMO.

Joe marler ??? 😬 , a tad problematic, he really needs to vet his acquaintances .

DaisyDooley · 12/07/2026 14:55

I genuinely do not think the King is hugely funding Harry -nor do I think he will be filling the ‘Invictus gap’ in funding.
I would say there is little to no chance of the King ‘levelling up’ things for Harry. It would mean the dismantling of the Duchy of Lancaster which has been the main source of funding for the monarch since Henry lV brought it with him to the throne in 1399. No second son has ever been ‘levelled up’which is why the Lancaster inheritance is still intact. There would also be a huge potential IHT issue -40% of £500 million is £200 million. There’s no way.
Many second/third/fourth children have been the favourite of the monarch but not one ever contemplated splitting the Lancaster Estate. It’s an absolute non starter.
As for funding Harry - maybe a bit but we know the King was already peed off withnthe telephone calls wanting cash before the late Queen died. I don’t suppose his stance on that has changed much.
Also we have to think of the influence from The Queen and William.
No way will they be sitting back while HAM try to rinse the King.
Over the last 10 years or so my liking/admiration for Camilla has been steadily rising. It’s now going up pretty fast.
I don’t think she is scared of speaking her mind and unlike the Kimg she lived a more normal life than he has ever done which has given her common sense. Camilla was the line in the sand Harry was warned not to cross. He ignored that and I don’t think Charles or Camilla will be in any great rush to forgive that fatal error.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 12/07/2026 14:55

jeffgoldblum · 12/07/2026 14:23

Oh good! , atleast I’m not alone! 😁

I have been musing what type of embroidery would be made if it was channel it is too hot to do anything else

PR disasters thread 23
RecoIIectionsMayVary · 12/07/2026 14:58

MrsFinkelstein · 12/07/2026 14:47

I also saw Harry had been a guest on the Joe Marler podcast.

Definitely trying to one up William after he appeared on the Kelce's. They even tried to mimic the "look at all your names & titles!" But it was all a bit flat and forced IMO.

Sorry had to laugh at Marler being one up from TK- although he did play a much better sport.

RecoIIectionsMayVary · 12/07/2026 15:00

Great points @DaisyDooley plus there is Charlotte and Louis to think about.

The monarchy has survived because it keeps it's wealth.

MyDogClive · 12/07/2026 15:04

I think from the RF point of view, what happens next with Dr Sophie may be pivotal. Right now, to much of the wider public, Harry is the nice but dim bloke doing his wife’s bidding, who lost a court case with a newspaper last week. Not a relevant individual and not really of interest to most.

But if the sentebale and African Parks charity fiascos hit the public consciousness, the parallels with AMW and SF’s grasping greed will start to cut through. And perhaps Harry’s wierd groping too.

Charles might provide funds for them to live a quiet life, but I don’t see the firm risking the embarrassment of further integration and the damage that would do to the royal brand.

HoldMyWine · 12/07/2026 15:06

Yes I can’t see KC subbing their current lifestyle. If they are broke I can see him
offering them somewhere on the royal estate to live and support them privately, as long as they STFU.

MrsLeonFarrell · 12/07/2026 15:08

Charles isn't going to give Harry a substantial amount of money to live an extravagant life in a white elephant or to ball out a failing charity. That isn't really how the family has ever operated.

Likewise I suspect the late Queen's mistakes with the handling of AMW will feed into how they manage Harry and his never ending quasi political. comments. Private tea is probably his lot.

Neither William or Catherine come across as people who spend much, if any time, thinking about what the Sussexes are up to.

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