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The royal family

PR disasters thread 23

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BigWillyLittleTodger · 11/07/2026 23:05

Let the games continue…….

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DJPJ · 13/07/2026 06:09

DJPJ · 13/07/2026 05:53

They will definitely not get a reputation boost from their KC3 meeting given their nonsense shenanigans this week and PH appalling attack on British judiciary system. They may well seek WRF role - PH will be up for it MM will pretend ahe is but will have her eyes on the prize (using it temporarily for her lucrative divorce disclosures) and on her upcoming exit. PH is buoyant because he got his DC to meet his Pa and come to the UK - but that won’t last when the ANL finances kicks in next few weeks and Sentebale turns him inside out in the coming months. She will want his emotional collapse on UK soil for his family to mop up and she will dip in and out or live here for the last two year of her marriage to max out royal adjacency and collect dirt for her memoirs. That’s her payday if PH has bankrupt them with ANL and Sentebale.

PH May also believe he needs to be in UK to drum up sponsorship for IG in the next 12 months as it’s on its knees financially. It will give him something to do.

I suspect he will enrol Archie at Lambrook so he can hang out with his cousins Louis and Charlotte.

Lily could start there as well as can go from 4. That would be hilarious. I would imagine that their security demands were already in place

JSMill · 13/07/2026 06:57

Ohpleeeease · 12/07/2026 23:33

I’m not convinced they miss any of this though. I think they have everything they want in Montecito. The problem is they can’t afford the upkeep.

I think they miss the cheering crowds. Remember when they returned for the Platinum Jubilee and M lowered her darkened car window to wave at the crowds?

AlwaysRightISwear · 13/07/2026 07:54

They liked the glamorous bits.

Justdancevance · 13/07/2026 08:16

Their faces at the Bob Marley premiere when they were led to regular seats with popcorn strewn carpets with popcorn was funny.

That showed them their level without the RF

MrsFinkelstein · 13/07/2026 08:19

MargaretThursday · 12/07/2026 20:50

I don't think there will be much more from this - it's not operation thaw. They want a big arrival with security and to show everyone that they're meeting with The King.

What they got was a short meeting with the King and Queen at a place of the King's choosing, and with conditions like no photos that restrict them. I suspect the BP media report was to stop Harry from doing a bigger one. It's a warning shot across his bow to say "don't leak - we know it's you".

Yes, there were other big news items that day, but it wasn't a big media deal, and every time they meet like that it will be a smaller deal. There wasn't even a photo of them arriving/leaving that I saw.
"Harry takes children to see dad privately for the third time" is pretty small news, even if H&M try and spin it as something bigger.

I would suspect if W&C meet it will be with lots of other family so they are protected and no one has to talk to them for long.

Exactly. And just because HaM met Charles doesn't mean any other family members have to meet them.

They can go to Balmoral all they want - they don't need to meet anyone else. I'd imagine the Waleses, Edinburgh's, Tindall's etc would just find another week over the summer to stay - if they chose.

It's just like the last 2 visits all over again. "It's not the Treaty of Versailles".

DelectableMe · 13/07/2026 08:21

Justdancevance · 13/07/2026 08:16

Their faces at the Bob Marley premiere when they were led to regular seats with popcorn strewn carpets with popcorn was funny.

That showed them their level without the RF

Hilarious! Same at St Paul's at the Platinum Jubilee! It's all about their royal status.

Justdancevance · 13/07/2026 08:23

Meghan wants the Royal box at Wimbledon on final day with all the stars, where she can talk animatedly to herself so in photos it looks like she’s have a conversation with Tom Hiddleston. She doesn’t want a week in Balmoral

MrsFinkelstein · 13/07/2026 08:25

AlwaysRightISwear · 12/07/2026 23:24

And all because they didn't want to do the boring duties of royalty.

I think it was really because Meghan didn't want to be so obviously behind Catherine.

Strawberriesandcaviar · 13/07/2026 08:27

NFW will Lambrook admit the Hamlets, they won’t want to piss off W&C

sickofsixseven · 13/07/2026 08:40

MrsFinkelstein · 13/07/2026 08:25

I think it was really because Meghan didn't want to be so obviously behind Catherine.

Not just catherine, all of them. She literally thought she could walk in front of the queen, charles, camilla etc, and did just that more than once, and that she would be the real star of the family. She couldn't take being reprimanded and told that no, that's not actually how it works and that there are rules so she flounced off. somehow she thought she had the pull to bring down the institution of the RF and set up a parallel one with Harry and her being on a par if not more popular. Utter delusion.

DelectableMe · 13/07/2026 08:42

sickofsixseven · 13/07/2026 08:40

Not just catherine, all of them. She literally thought she could walk in front of the queen, charles, camilla etc, and did just that more than once, and that she would be the real star of the family. She couldn't take being reprimanded and told that no, that's not actually how it works and that there are rules so she flounced off. somehow she thought she had the pull to bring down the institution of the RF and set up a parallel one with Harry and her being on a par if not more popular. Utter delusion.

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Yes, that's exactly it. Well, now she's merching fruit spread, not even very successfully.

DJPJ · 13/07/2026 08:45

Strawberriesandcaviar · 13/07/2026 08:27

NFW will Lambrook admit the Hamlets, they won’t want to piss off W&C

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Maybe they can’t say ‘No’ if they have space because imagine the eruption that would cause in PH. I expect MM would be calling in Backgrid to pap all the cousins skipping in to school together. She would love it - nice investment / scouting expedition for her post divorce memoirs.

PH indicated that he wanted A&L to have a public role this week and previously he said he wante to ‘hand the IG gig on to A’ - so they are pushing open doors for their DCs to either have the option of being WTF or having enough royal adjacency that powers their PR efforts in other fields.

noonames · 13/07/2026 08:49

DJPJ · 13/07/2026 08:45

Maybe they can’t say ‘No’ if they have space because imagine the eruption that would cause in PH. I expect MM would be calling in Backgrid to pap all the cousins skipping in to school together. She would love it - nice investment / scouting expedition for her post divorce memoirs.

PH indicated that he wanted A&L to have a public role this week and previously he said he wante to ‘hand the IG gig on to A’ - so they are pushing open doors for their DCs to either have the option of being WTF or having enough royal adjacency that powers their PR efforts in other fields.

There’s no way they would admit Harry’s kids. I can’t imagine they struggle to fill it (and how would he know if there were places or not). I’m sure in any case that his ridiculous security demands would be excuse enough not to have A+L at the school.

Beesandhoney123 · 13/07/2026 09:06

Dont think the meeting with KC was anything except awkward for the grown ups. Harry was all smiles because everyone was watching out for his storming out in a rage. So he had to smile and look happy. I expect he knows his visa wont be renewed.

dont want a single penny of public money spent on this pair, or their dc. I dont want to see them with other royals as working royals or hangers on. Any charity they represent wont get a penny off me, the risk of the money being used badly is too high.

If KC wants them back in his life, that is his choice, but im not paying for it or pretending H&M are lovely. They are middle aged losers - expression arselick and old lace comes to mind.

Mylovelygreendress · 13/07/2026 09:07

I know lots of people talk about MM post divorce and her memoirs etc but the RF and their aides are not stupid . They will have sussed out Meghan at the beginning ( William certainly did) and am pretty sure they are prepared for a divorce .
Apart from money the one thing Meghan wants more than anything is her title . If she has a hope of keeping it then no book or interviews.

Aprilfountain · 13/07/2026 09:22

There's no way MM would ever allow the kids to live and be educated in the UK imho, she wants them with her at all times, they're her USP in America - the late Princess Diana's young grandchildren!

Gravelpit631loft8 · 13/07/2026 09:28

sickofsixseven · 13/07/2026 08:40

Not just catherine, all of them. She literally thought she could walk in front of the queen, charles, camilla etc, and did just that more than once, and that she would be the real star of the family. She couldn't take being reprimanded and told that no, that's not actually how it works and that there are rules so she flounced off. somehow she thought she had the pull to bring down the institution of the RF and set up a parallel one with Harry and her being on a par if not more popular. Utter delusion.

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It is a legitimate matter for debate however why any person should not walk in front, or behind, another. IMHO people have innate equal value in themselves no matter where, or to whom, they were born. All of this curtseying, doffing of caps, adorning themselves with jewels, is actually made up nonsense to “other” them in order protect their privilege! I can’t believe how many people support it so blindly!

MyDogClive · 13/07/2026 09:33

DJPJ · 12/07/2026 23:24

I don’t. I believe that MM will have assessed the damage to the H&M ‘brand’ and their potential revenue streams.

She will conclude that PH’s reputation is fuxked - from a legal disclosure standpoint with ANL, Sentebale, US visa - compounded with his actual reactive aggression in public - she will be totting up the irreversible damage to her own earning potential.

She knows he is toast. Toast of Tinseltown. What she will do now is play nice, keep quiet and spend the next two years crawling up the arses of RF - doubt shes deluded enough or even wants to be WRF - but she will spend 2 years maxing out her royal adjacency. It wouldn’t surprise me if she even went as far as moving back to the UK to achieve her aims. She will throw everything at it - and then divorce him. She might even move here with him under false pretences - playing nice and demure - get him settled with his old mates and bedded into UK culture and then just fuck right off back to Cali and divorce him ‘out of the blue’.

I wouldn’t even be surprised if she left her DCs in the UK to be ‘educated’ (bit like Doria) so that they were fully royal washed - and then she could exploit that down the line from Cali like some weirdo stage mom manager!!

Shes plotting her exit and how she can monetise and rinse PH, royal adjacency the most - for her sole benefit post divorce in May 2028 - less than 2 years away.

I suspect this is pretty much how it will play out.

As for H “handing on” Invictus to Archie, I very much doubt it will exist, other than as a name wrapped in to another event.

DelectableMe · 13/07/2026 09:34

Gravelpit631loft8 · 13/07/2026 09:28

It is a legitimate matter for debate however why any person should not walk in front, or behind, another. IMHO people have innate equal value in themselves no matter where, or to whom, they were born. All of this curtseying, doffing of caps, adorning themselves with jewels, is actually made up nonsense to “other” them in order protect their privilege! I can’t believe how many people support it so blindly!

Strange. Harry and Meghan expect - they still do - people to bow and curtsey, call them Sir and Ma',am, doff their caps and defer. Meghan has a coronet on her notepaper. A journalist was presented to her with an announcement by the housekeeper of her title. There was only them in the house.
Who does that?
If they expect people to walk behind them and defer to them, it works both ways. They enjoy the status and privilege, but it does have drawbacks.
They love it all. Just not when anyone is ahead of them in the hierarchy.

HurrahforHollywood · 13/07/2026 09:38

MyDogClive · 13/07/2026 09:33

I suspect this is pretty much how it will play out.

As for H “handing on” Invictus to Archie, I very much doubt it will exist, other than as a name wrapped in to another event.

I agree that this will be the scenario too. I can also see her leaving her kids in UK boarding schools whilst she concentrates on herself and living her best life. Once they leave school she'll be stuck to their sides being papped everywhere.

Cismyfatarse · 13/07/2026 09:50

What, I wonder, will his visa application show?

DJPJ · 13/07/2026 09:51

Aprilfountain · 13/07/2026 09:22

There's no way MM would ever allow the kids to live and be educated in the UK imho, she wants them with her at all times, they're her USP in America - the late Princess Diana's young grandchildren!

Does she want them with her at all times? She has form for leaving them on the otherside of the world repeated for extended periods when only a few months old.

Her USP in America is that she has royal children - a British Prince and Princess - a few years absorbing max royal adjacency and upper class Britishness including the accent is time and money well spent to boost her brand / USP in the US. Currently it’s not translating with the barefoot Cali kiddos - that market is saturated - she needs to differentiate - so she needs to reinvent them for a brand refresh. It would only be for a year or two then she would whip them back to Cali and leave their decomposing disheveled Dad to be cared for by his family and friends in the UK. Saves her the bother.

She left him high and dry this week in his desperate very public hour of need. Why didn’t she support him. Why did she hide? This is her MO - we’ve seen her do it to best friends, colleagues, close family - when the shit hits the fan she scarpers and looks after no 1. This is what she will
continue to do.

DelectableMe · 13/07/2026 09:52

Gravelpit631loft8 · 13/07/2026 09:28

It is a legitimate matter for debate however why any person should not walk in front, or behind, another. IMHO people have innate equal value in themselves no matter where, or to whom, they were born. All of this curtseying, doffing of caps, adorning themselves with jewels, is actually made up nonsense to “other” them in order protect their privilege! I can’t believe how many people support it so blindly!

Well all the supporters of Harry and Meghan do, for starters. They are proper hardline royalists!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/07/2026 10:01

Mylovelygreendress · 13/07/2026 09:07

I know lots of people talk about MM post divorce and her memoirs etc but the RF and their aides are not stupid . They will have sussed out Meghan at the beginning ( William certainly did) and am pretty sure they are prepared for a divorce .
Apart from money the one thing Meghan wants more than anything is her title . If she has a hope of keeping it then no book or interviews.

Definitely agree with the first part, Mylovelygreendress, but if it's mostly about the title for her, the one she's already using (Meghan Duchess of Sussex) is that of a divorced woman, so no change would be needed

Admittedly she'd no longer be able to bring on Harry for a cameo shot in her silly appearances, but since that's about the only use he appears to have would it really matter?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/07/2026 10:03

Cismyfatarse · 13/07/2026 09:50

What, I wonder, will his visa application show?

Very little, I suspect

It's already been said that the contents would be damaging to him, so I've no doubt the redactions will make it meaningless

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