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The royal family

So why is Harry safe but not Meghan and the kids?

219 replies

canthavetoomanylights · 10/07/2026 07:58

Sorry if this is obvious/already discussed.. I can’t find it.

Im just wondering why Harry can do these ‘engagements’ but his wife and kids can’t step in the country.

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OutInTheWild · 10/07/2026 13:35

Northernladdette · 10/07/2026 13:27

Total, total rubbish. I don’t even see her as a woman of colour, and if she was so proud of her roots she wouldn’t have spent so much money and effort to look the opposite, ie nose job, hair relaxing 😳

You don’t see as as a woman of colour? that’s it then, she can’t be one, the northern laddette has spoken everyone.

Who do you think you are? 😂😂😂🫠

Vintlet · 10/07/2026 13:36

@Firetreev. How do you feel about Harry's racist behaviour and racist language?He claims that using an Asian slur (P*) to a fellow cadet was because he thought it was like calling someone a Yankee. There is a video of this. In fact I think there was a Panorama about it at the time. Are you ok with Harry behaving in a racist fashion ?

Northernladdette · 10/07/2026 13:41

OutInTheWild · 10/07/2026 13:35

You don’t see as as a woman of colour? that’s it then, she can’t be one, the northern laddette has spoken everyone.

Who do you think you are? 😂😂😂🫠

I’m the person that is entitled to my opinion, the same as the next person 🤷‍♀️

Batcats · 10/07/2026 13:45

I always find it laughable, Harry being some sort of crusader for race relations. The same Prince Harry that wore a Nazi uniform to a party a few weeks before Holocaust memorial day and the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auchstwiz.

One thing in his book he didn't take much personal responsibility for himself blaming it of course on William and Kate who said it would be "funny" to wear and on his youth when even your average 20 year old would have known the offence it would have caused.

OutInTheWild · 10/07/2026 13:53

Northernladdette · 10/07/2026 13:41

I’m the person that is entitled to my opinion, the same as the next person 🤷‍♀️

Yes, but an opinion of not seeing her as a person of colour doesn’t mean she isn’t a person of colour. She is. That is fact. You can’t have an opinion that denies a fact and expect to be taken seriously.

Ignoring or pretending you don’t see race is very dismissive and causes more issues. It’s hard to stop racism if people deny race. It dismisses people’s experiences. Some people do it thinking they are being kind but they’re not and it’s also a common tactic used by racist people ime.

Northernladdette · 10/07/2026 13:59

OutInTheWild · 10/07/2026 13:53

Yes, but an opinion of not seeing her as a person of colour doesn’t mean she isn’t a person of colour. She is. That is fact. You can’t have an opinion that denies a fact and expect to be taken seriously.

Ignoring or pretending you don’t see race is very dismissive and causes more issues. It’s hard to stop racism if people deny race. It dismisses people’s experiences. Some people do it thinking they are being kind but they’re not and it’s also a common tactic used by racist people ime.

Groan 😫

OutInTheWild · 10/07/2026 14:00

Batcats · 10/07/2026 13:45

I always find it laughable, Harry being some sort of crusader for race relations. The same Prince Harry that wore a Nazi uniform to a party a few weeks before Holocaust memorial day and the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auchstwiz.

One thing in his book he didn't take much personal responsibility for himself blaming it of course on William and Kate who said it would be "funny" to wear and on his youth when even your average 20 year old would have known the offence it would have caused.

I think it just shows how racism is a part of their whole family. Philip was racist, it was just accepted. When he said things like he did in public, no doubt the same or worse was common at family gatherings for the kids to hear and it became normal. Harry should have apologised instead of brushing over that incident and other comments he made. None of them take any responsibility for their actions. Look at Andrew. Family of entitled people, racists and wrong ‘uns.

OutInTheWild · 10/07/2026 14:01

Northernladdette · 10/07/2026 13:59

Groan 😫

That’s what my racist in laws would do.

Vintlet · 10/07/2026 14:21

Exactly @OutInTheWild . Sadly, everyone has racist members of the family. The Royal family has verifiable evidence that Prince Harry was racist on a number of occasions, just like you claim your in laws to be. Prince Philip was born was born in 1921, 105 years ago. Yet Prince Harry managed to outdo even Prince Philip. At least Prince Philip didn't minimise it in the way that Prince Harry has done. Fortunately the younger generation of Royals , not including Prince Harry, are working hard to overturn systematic racism. I was pleased to see that Prince Charles is protective of Palace staff and does not allow their working conditions to be messed around by Prince Harry.
If Prince Harry was to remain in the UK it is to be hoped that some kind of inclusivity training would be arranged for him.

OutInTheWild · 10/07/2026 14:42

Vintlet · 10/07/2026 14:21

Exactly @OutInTheWild . Sadly, everyone has racist members of the family. The Royal family has verifiable evidence that Prince Harry was racist on a number of occasions, just like you claim your in laws to be. Prince Philip was born was born in 1921, 105 years ago. Yet Prince Harry managed to outdo even Prince Philip. At least Prince Philip didn't minimise it in the way that Prince Harry has done. Fortunately the younger generation of Royals , not including Prince Harry, are working hard to overturn systematic racism. I was pleased to see that Prince Charles is protective of Palace staff and does not allow their working conditions to be messed around by Prince Harry.
If Prince Harry was to remain in the UK it is to be hoped that some kind of inclusivity training would be arranged for him.

I think Prince Philip was as bad. There are many, many documented cases of his racism. No it wasn’t minimised because it was just largely ignored. I think there was a statement about one incident where he was racist about Indian people but it wasn’t an apology. The rest of the incidents weren’t even commented on by the family, it was just normal for them. Awful. The family never take responsibility. Harry breezed over his incidents of racism by talking about unconscious bias but no apology, no real remorse. They are just a terrible family.

WoodchipAnnie56 · 10/07/2026 14:49

OutInTheWild · 10/07/2026 13:53

Yes, but an opinion of not seeing her as a person of colour doesn’t mean she isn’t a person of colour. She is. That is fact. You can’t have an opinion that denies a fact and expect to be taken seriously.

Ignoring or pretending you don’t see race is very dismissive and causes more issues. It’s hard to stop racism if people deny race. It dismisses people’s experiences. Some people do it thinking they are being kind but they’re not and it’s also a common tactic used by racist people ime.

Absolutely this!

Vintlet · 10/07/2026 14:52

They are not a terrible family. I don't know them well enough to make a sweeping statement and neither do you. You accuse your in laws of being racist. No one on here can possibly make a fair comparison, we don't know your in laws. It is an unsubstantiated allegation and minimises any unsubstantiated view you hold of the royal family. I hold opinions but when I express them I check that they are verifiable and not simply malicious. Why include a reference to your your in laws? Are you confusing them with the royal family? it comes across as malicious.
Please give verifiable evidence to support your sweeping statements.

WoodchipAnnie56 · 10/07/2026 14:54

IcedPurple · 10/07/2026 13:15

Nobody here has said a bad word about the children.

Stop accusing people of something they haven't done.

And as has been pointed out many times, armed police protection isn't assigned on the basis of 'frothing and vitriol'.

There have been things said about the children actually. Someone kept saying that Lilibet’s hair needed a good brush and someone else commented on her clothing.

And are you just ignoring all of the comments about Meghan’s supposed phantom pregnancies?

All really uncalled for remarks.

Vintlet · 10/07/2026 14:54

Prince Philip was born 105 years ago. Huge difference with Prince Harry's racism twenty years ago ( if that )

Vintlet · 10/07/2026 14:56

Woodchip Annie please include references to the newspapers that said these things. I don't think an anonymous forum counts. See also a poster randomly accusing her in laws of racism.

OutInTheWild · 10/07/2026 14:59

Prince Philip was still making racist remarks well into 2000s, not that long ago. I haven’t degended Harry, he’s racist too. They should have apologised…..and changed. Prince Philip didn’t. Has Harry, who knows. A sincere apology would be a start.

IcedPurple · 10/07/2026 15:01

WoodchipAnnie56 · 10/07/2026 14:54

There have been things said about the children actually. Someone kept saying that Lilibet’s hair needed a good brush and someone else commented on her clothing.

And are you just ignoring all of the comments about Meghan’s supposed phantom pregnancies?

All really uncalled for remarks.

There have been things said about the children actually. Someone kept saying that Lilibet’s hair needed a good brush and someone else commented on her clothing.

That's more a comment on her parents than on the child herself.

And are you just ignoring all of the comments about Meghan’s supposed phantom pregnancies?

What comments? On this thread?

All really uncalled for remarks.

They may be, but 'uncalled for' remarks on a parenting forum are not a good enough reason for armed police protection.

thisisyoursign · 10/07/2026 15:02

FabStick · 10/07/2026 08:30

I suppose he can choose the level of risk he's happy to take but doesn't want to put his children into that situation.

Not the biggest Harry fan but he's not wrong to be concerned about this.

Agree with this. Of course there are circumstances that you’d be fine in but wouldn’t want your children to be in.

OutInTheWild · 10/07/2026 15:02

WoodchipAnnie56 · 10/07/2026 14:54

There have been things said about the children actually. Someone kept saying that Lilibet’s hair needed a good brush and someone else commented on her clothing.

And are you just ignoring all of the comments about Meghan’s supposed phantom pregnancies?

All really uncalled for remarks.

All the comments on mumsnet and other SM about Lilis hair are very strange. It’s very likely she has inherited curl from her mum, (maybe her dad too), but people go on about her hair not looking brushed. 🤔 People of colour have dealt with these sorts of comments about their hair for years. It’s racism. Lili is mixed race. People know that.

Dollymylove · 10/07/2026 15:03

Batcats · 10/07/2026 12:50

I know. "Unfairly" treated by his family with his £20 million inheritance, anything he wanted catered for, access to best education, health and housing anyone can ask for and round the clock security. And now licking his wounds in a 9 bedroom, 16 bathroom mansion in Montecito.

Woe betide indeed.

Who the hell needs 16 bathrooms?

Newname26 · 10/07/2026 15:15

godmum56 · 10/07/2026 12:58

Did you not notice 2 or 3 other rather hefty male climbers in the background of the video's? I am absolutely saying she was right to have security but it was definitely there!

Have you ever seen the video of the mountain bikers passing a couple of range rovers then a bit further along the track meeting the King?

But it's also different when it's things that are planned verses going for a wander around the Balmoral estate.

HurrahforHollywood · 10/07/2026 15:19

TheGoddessFrigg · 10/07/2026 08:18

Because there are so many poisonous pockets across the Internet which absolutely hate on MM and post some really unhinged rants.

And because like any father he wants to protect his children as much as possible. This country is racist as the 70s at the moment

It's not racism it's contempt for the way she behaves as a person.

Newname26 · 10/07/2026 15:36

IcedPurple · 10/07/2026 12:48

Yes, and the 'royal family' don't operate as a group. If there were to be a visit, the only people who'd need to know would be Charles' office and no reason they would 'leak'. Plenty of reason Harry and Meghan would, and have.

Does anyone know where Harry is staying for example? He seems to be able to keep that private.

Rumour has it hes at Althrop (his Uncles estate where Di is buried).
They also suggested on the news Meg & kids are here with plans to meet Charles at Highgrove.

Scorchio84 · 10/07/2026 15:53

Overtheatlantic · 10/07/2026 09:16

It’s the daily mail that follow them around, not normal citizens. The gutter rag journalists shout disgusting comments and obscenities to get reactions from their targets; they’re gross. I’m sorry prince Harry and the others lost their case against the mail because it now thinks it’s a legitimate news outlet.

time to get back in your 1990's time machine & come back to the present

Batcats · 10/07/2026 16:08

WoodchipAnnie56 · 10/07/2026 14:54

There have been things said about the children actually. Someone kept saying that Lilibet’s hair needed a good brush and someone else commented on her clothing.

And are you just ignoring all of the comments about Meghan’s supposed phantom pregnancies?

All really uncalled for remarks.

It's hardly "vitirol" though is it? I am struggling to see though the link between saying someone needs their hair brushed and comment about clothing and how this would equal being so fearful for your family's safety that you wouldn't take them out and you require 24 hour security.

Which was what people were saying on here, that some of the comments on here could you make see why Meghan and Harry would be so scared for their kids safety.

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