So why is Harry safe but not Meghan and the kids?

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Sorry if this is obvious/already discussed.. I can’t find it.

Im just wondering why Harry can do these ‘engagements’ but his wife and kids can’t step in the country.

Ive seen no vitirol or threatening comments on here about MMs kids or indeed any comments any comments anywhere indicating a threat towards MM.

The idea they need armed protection based on a few comments from a public parenting forum is laughable.

Can't tell if you deliberately misunderstood or not. Imo no choice they made would have been judged good enough. And with what is known about RF principals briefing against each other, thinking that they could visit in complete privacy is naive.

There is lots of news on lots of famous people that we don't need to know about and for the majority of us we can easily ignore it. Its a choice to go reading it or checking their Instagram accounts etc.

They can bring their own security from the US but they are not allowed to bear arms.
You cant, as a private citizen, pay for armed Scotland Yard protection.
Otherwise everyone with a few quid to their name would want to be hiring them

Again, your priority seems to be pleasing random folk on the internet.

If Britain is such a uniquely dangerous country for your children, then why on earth would you give potential attackers a heads up? This is daft. Surely you can see it.

And of course they could visit in complete privacy. The only people leaking to the press about their 'itinerary' is them. Because they value publicity far more than security.

That would be the best option but I don't think the level of hate for them is just to do with their attitude. They are whiny and annoying and I don't agree with all of their choices. But the tone of the comments about them is really different to most RF members. I think only AMW seems to get worse.

on give ever-who the heck am I trying to please? Thanks for a good laugh!

......as well as being treated unfairly by his family which is well documented.

How and when has Harry been unfairly treated by his family and where has this been 'well documented'? (Spare doesn't qualify as 'well documented').

The Royal family have absolutely nothing to do with this trip on Harry apart from offering the room at Buckingham palace which turned into an absolute spectacle from Harry's end. And who are these "RF principals" and what would they have to do with the organisation of this trip?

I think if Harry had just come to the UK, done whatever he needed to do and fucked off home again, people probably wouldn't have cared. And certainly any charities and events he was visiting would not have had all the external drama and distraction he's brought with him.

Any bad press around this trip has been entirely of Harry's own doing. Leaking of intinarys, security briefings and this constant will they/won't they of whether they are coming or not.

Not sure what 'on give ever' means, but I mean that you seem to think the Sussexes' priority should be to avoid an 'uproar' from randoms on the internet.

Who gives a toss what strangers think? Surely if you care about your children's safety above all else you don't announce their possible movements in advance? Nobody has given an adequate explanation as to why two people supposedly paranoid about security would do this.

How has he been badly treated? He grew up with privileges that very few people enjoy. He should be mightily relieved he is the "spare" and can live his life as he wishes, rather than whinge about how badly done to he is!!

Unless they're coming back on their hands and knees to apologise and beg forgiveness, I don't really care what they do.

I believe that he has been well looked after by the RF
The great PR machine covered up so much

about him, all negative and damaging
And the late Queen gave permission for him to marry MM, despite knowing about her interesting past

Yes, and the 'royal family' don't operate as a group. If there were to be a visit, the only people who'd need to know would be Charles' office and no reason they would 'leak'. Plenty of reason Harry and Meghan would, and have.

Does anyone know where Harry is staying for example? He seems to be able to keep that private.

The older M and H get the less relevant they become. They are not really royals anymore as much as Meghan wants to pretend that she is. Edward the 8th abdicated and then desperately wanted to be royal again. He plotted with Hitler that if Germany invaded the UK he would become the monarch again.
Sadly for the many many Sussex Supporters, H and M will become irrelevant with the passing of time. Once the younger royals start having families, their links will disappear quickly. William wants to modernise and slim down those claiming royal titles. Meghan can bang on to California about being a duchess but the USA is a republic and no one in America has plans to make her Duchess of Disney.
H and M are in their forties now. Younger folk won't really remember them or their situation a few years down the line. They have an idyllic life life in a super posh mansion in super posh Montecito. THey will be al right learning to be ordinary.

I know. "Unfairly" treated by his family with his £20 million inheritance, anything he wanted catered for, access to best education, health and housing anyone can ask for and round the clock security. And now licking his wounds in a 9 bedroom, 16 bathroom mansion in Montecito.

Woe betide indeed.

@HelenaWilson yes Spare does qualify as ‘well documented’ as a book can’t simply be published full of outright lies! Otherwise, anybody could write anything about anyone which would end in lawsuits. There can be white lies which aren’t seen as damaging or truths can be embellished for book purposes but outright lies are a big NO! The core purpose of each chapter of a biography has to be truth.

Did you not notice 2 or 3 other rather hefty male climbers in the background of the video's? I am absolutely saying she was right to have security but it was definitely there!

I agree! Mumsnet is one of the more moderate sites out there and yet many threads seem to exist simply to criticise Meghan & Harry repeatedly out of all proportion to what they have actually done. And this is despite everyone insisting that they are no longer relevant but then continue. to start threads about them!

Is it any wonder they are worried about a random nutter who had been influenced by all of the negative on-line noise about them. And of course you are going to be very protective of your wife and children if you grew up seeing your mother continually harrassed by paps etc.

The book Spare isn’t that bad if you actually read it and many people have disputes with their families, they are not unusual in that at all - some aspects of the royal family and the funding and the hierarchy sound pretty toxic tbh - and they are allowed to go and live in M’s home country.

I honestly think some very narrow insular obsessed people have taken offence at them preferring to live outside of the UK!

It's a massive leap to make from threads criticising someone to it being a direct threat on someone's life. People on here spout shit about all sorts of subjects because it's an anonymous forum where they can speak freely without consequence. I mean should we start supplying MILs arguably the most hated group on mumsnet with armed guards based on the wild threads you read on here?

I think most people don't really give a shiny shit where they live either!

Having seen the result of a court case where a number of people claimed things but there simply wasn't the evince to support the claims and so these people lost. It makes me cringe on here when posters claim that Harry has been poorly treated when there is no evidence to support it. There is evidence of Harry's horrible racism on video but he has apologised for that. I think if he hadn't been royal he would have been thrown out of the army for his racist language and behaviour.
Posters need to remember that legally there needs to be verifiable evidence for the wild claims on here.

Agree @WoodchipAnnie56 , continuous frothing and vitriol. Why not just let them be and save their vitriol, hate and spite for the real villain ie; AMW. What have their kids done to deserve this? Oh wait, let me guess …

Harry knew he could write any drivel in Spare without it being challenged. Even the way he wrote about his sons birth was absolute bollocks. In it he writes about how Meghan required an epidural but then gave birth and they were home in Frogmore two hours after giving birth. It's a part of the book I'm amazed no one has called him out on.

Nobody here has said a bad word about the children.

Stop accusing people of something they haven't done.

And as has been pointed out many times, armed police protection isn't assigned on the basis of 'frothing and vitriol'.

Total, total rubbish. I don’t even see her as a woman of colour, and if she was so proud of her roots she wouldn’t have spent so much money and effort to look the opposite, ie nose job, hair relaxing 😳