So why is Harry safe but not Meghan and the kids?

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Sorry if this is obvious/already discussed.. I can’t find it.

Im just wondering why Harry can do these ‘engagements’ but his wife and kids can’t step in the country.

Can they not pay for their own security?

She will be forever associated with the Royals now so she may as well cash in I suppose. I don’t blame her. There are plenty of negatives with being associated with that family so take any positives you can, but I wouldn’t let them anywhere near my children if I was Meghan. So much has been covered up, I wouldn’t think my kids were safe.

They do. What they want and what has been well established is armed officers supporting them which can only the Met Office can provide. And I don't know about you, but I really don't want to live in a society where the rich and famous can just buy police officers for their own convenience.

I really don't know why people keep banging on about the cost issue. That's never been the issue.

Ah okay, I didn’t realise the ins and outs of it

Why would you choose not only to marry into a family, but to 'work' for that family, if you 'wouldn't let your children near' that same family? Of which her husband is a member? And why would you insist on using titles granted to you by that family, not only for yourself but your children?

That said, I doubt many of the royals give a toss if they ever see Meghan and her children again.

I would have thought it would be obvious why an ex solder with combat experience might be able to go into situations that you wouldn't want to take a chance and put children in.

They pay for armed security in the US.

In what 'situation' is he likely to be physically defending himself against attackers during his brief stay in his home country?

We're talking about a man happy to leave his children 14 time zones away while he and his wife go on a jolly, after all.

Pretty sure they are coming just not going public appearances.

I would have thought it would be obvious why an ex solder with combat experience might be able to go into situations that you wouldn't want to take a chance and put children in.

A hospital in Birmingham? Well you might not want to take young children to visit a hospital, but I'm not sure what combat experience has to do with it.

He isn't, but he has commitments he wants to fulfil. He doesn't want to risk his children's safety though. It makes perfect sense

People in public life do get attacked and the level of vitriol towards this family is astounding. Whether it's physical threat or people pressing in on them, chasing their cars to get pictures or simply booing and shouting, I wouldn't expose my kids to it either. And I don't have history of my mother dying as a result of such harassment. But people love to diss Harry and this is just grist to the mill.

I’m sure his combat experience would be invaluable against bombs, snipers, paint throwers, people shouting. 🙄

People are going to be 'pressing in on him' in Chatham House or a hospital in Birmingham? With police present? The dook is going to be fighting off attackers with his own bare hands? Why would his children be there anyway?

And nobody has told me why, if he's so terribly anxious about his children, he and his wife are providing regular updates to the press about their possible visit. It would be perfectly possible for the entire family to come and go without anyone being any the wiser. Why aren't they doing this, do you think?

When has there been any physical threat to Harry and his kids? Or have people pressed in on him? Or shouted and booed? And is the car chase the supposed one that happened in New York that was actually established to have been completely overblown.

From all accounts their children live a relatively normal and safe life in the US, a country that ranks much lower in the safety index than ours. And as mentioned above, we're talking about couple so "paranoid" about their children's safety that they've been quite happy to leave them, from young babies at home while they've travelled on multiple foreign trips on a different continent several times a year.

Well if there are going to be public engagemens, why would they not want to be in control of the narrative. And can you imagine the uproar if they came and went privately? They literally can't do anything right and people are positively unhinged when talking about them. I am not a fan either, but the way people talk about this family is bizarre.

I’m not Meghan so you would have to ask her. 🙃

But I suppose she had fallen in love with Harry before meeting the in-laws and realising what they were like and what life would be like.

The titles, as I said, to make money I suppose. And status. And maybe Harry believes the whole birthright stuff, so she does to, You can still want to keep your children away from certain individuals in that family though, or possibly even away from the press when they’ve been racist to you.

In their position I’d put 2 fingers up to Britain and his family and live a nice life in the US, but I’m not a ‘family is family regardless of what they do’ type.

Huh? If they came and went privately nobody would know! So no 'uproar'. You're saying they should potentially put their children's safety at risk to prevent an 'uproar'? Strange priorities.

The children aren't going to be doing 'public engagements' so why on earth would anyone need to know where they are? Indeed, why would anyone even need to know Harry's movements in advance? You say 'public engagements' but he's a private citizen doing his own thing. Nobody but those directly concerned need advance notice.

I honestly think people would be quite happy if they came and went privately. It's this sense of entitlement and importance that has most people riled up.

Anyway from what I gather anyway, the general public haven't really given a shit either. Crowds have been pretty thin on the ground if pictures are anything to go by.

Look at the vitriol on here for MM and her poor kids and then think of all the psychos out there. Thats why they need to consider this decision very carefully. Anyway, I hear they are coming but it won’t be a public visit which will serve all the haters right. Nothing to tear apart.

But I suppose she had fallen in love with Harry before meeting the in-laws and realising what they were like and what life would be like.

Yeah, she fell for Harry's deep intellect, devastating good looks and all round sophistication and would have done so had he been a bricklayer. Sure.

The titles, as I said, to make money I suppose. And status. And maybe Harry believes the whole birthright stuff, so she does to, You can still want to keep your children away from certain individuals in that family though, or possibly even away from the press when they’ve been racist to you.

They live in California. Who in the royal family is clamouring to see Meghan and her kids? Other than Charles I suspect the others are supremely indifferent.

In their position I’d put 2 fingers up to Britain and his family and live a nice life in the US, but I’m not a ‘family is family regardless of what they do’ type.

Well clearly Harry isn't either, as he's made a career out of slagging off his.

Britain gave these two everything that they have. As we've seen in the past few years, without royal allure they're really not much.

And can you imagine the uproar if they came and went privately?

Why would there be any uproar? If they came and went privately no-one would know they had been and gone, so where would this uproar be coming from?

Just seen Alison Hammond doing her 'hilarious' hugging of Harry, what a hoot she is, not
Harry is so irrelevant; Invictus Games was implemented by his PR team to keep occupied and to bolster his cheeky chappie persona

That doesn't suit the agenda.
They wanted a photographer with them to visit the late Queen. That was 100% about cashing in on connections.
Absolutely not about showing of the baby to Granny and having a few family snapshots.

KC is wise to them.

In all seriousness why would anyone want to harm them? Who are these bad people and what have Harry and Meghan actually done that’s so awful? Yes, Meghan can be a drama queen at times but she also seems very nice and caring. Neither of them deserve such vitriol. Harry comes across as a genuinely nice guy and has been through a lot of trauma in his life as well as being treated unfairly by his family which is well documented.

I wonder Will KC actually get to meet up with them all this time and have a proper get together with his grandchildren?