PR disasters thread 22

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The ongoing saga of Sussex PR

That should be briefings from friends of BP.

Wow she looks stunning, 🤩

Catching up so late to add this but I agree with you @Indianrollerbird. if it’s any consolation, Shauna Kay has just put out a video outlining a similar position. She’s thoroughly brassed off with what she sees as a reward for H and MM’s appalling behaviour, and the gaslighting from BP.

I’be been defending Charles for a while but I cannot see any defence for this. It is so clearly (to me) an engineered plan, leaked to the media to see how the public responds to H and MM being brought back into service, on their terms.

There is no way this was a “private” family occasion. No way on earth.

It’s all a bit Timmy Mallet isn’t it?

A mother was reading Harry Potter to her child and doing the voices really well.
Repeated back to JKR who gave the mother a shout out.

I don't mean to cause anyone to feel defensive because they don't have a huge family! Lots of people have small families these days. My children don't have much contact with their cousins due to them all being 10-20 years older. But our children (and yours surely) aren't locked away in a mansion, not going out to public events, I don't think they even go to Church or carol services. A lonely trip to Disney land, with all public cleared out of the way? That's just creepy frankly.

Last night Catherine took George and Charlotte to a performance by the Royal Ballet School, sitting in the public seating area. (Actually I think it must be Charlotte and Louis from the photo or maybe all three. The person posting hasn't been overly intrusive with photos of the children).

Charles went to a performance of The Tempest at the RSC in Stratford, sitting in the stalls, recently.

A lack of extended family doesn't mean a child misses out on the normal social events of life with friends and public activities.

https://x.com/jgremise/status/2075917511686607066?s=20

I had to google to remind myself of Timmy Mallet to check I knew who you were talking about. Apparently he is now a somewhat accomplished artist and sells paintings and does long distance cycling to raise money for charity , in memory of his brother and other causes .

So I agree but I would venture more- H isn't even Timmy Mallet. (No disrespect to TM intended there, he sounds like he is doing very very worthwhile things. ) 😊

I do feel the events of this show ‘Megxit’ to have been a failure. They lost so much and gained little. M insisted her time in the UK and the RF left her close to suicide and H insisted on an apology for her from her family. Yet headlines this week indicate H was desperate for the children to come to the UK and meet his awful family. M’s non appearance at Invictus is either from concern that she will be booed or them finally listening to those who question why she is involved at all. Meanwhile, nothing they have launched has been a success. God knows what the future holds for them. M has gone from posting random crap on Instagram to radio silence.
I never thought M would allow her dcs back in the UK but now I am wondering if they would send them to schools in the UK to gaij access to rich and/or aristocratic social circles.

He has clearly evolved from the Wide Awake Club, I don’t think Harry is capable of that so he will stay stuck in his Timmy Mallet era for ever more, arrested development indeed.

I've just read about the Disney visit. Absolutely bonkers. You do worry about these children as they grow up. Growing up with this level of paranoia and hysteria can't be healthy.

I’m with @Indianrollerbird and @BigWillyLittleTodger on this. I’ve long had a soft spot for Charles but right now I feel frustrated that, apparently, H is not suffering the consequences of his behaviour, and Charles is letting him away with not-quite murder.

I say “apparently” because of course none of us know what went on in that meeting, but the optics are not good. It looks like H can behave like the loose cannon he is, and suffer no sanctions.

If I was W & C, no matter what I said in public, in private I would be hurt and angry. And evidently Camilla agreed to meet with the Sussexes but I don’t imagine for a second it was something she actively wanted to do. How they (the Sussexes) had the nerve to face her after all that’s been said I don’t know.

And as a total aside, years ago I used to go to weight watchers with Timmy Mallet’s wife. If ever there was a couple who personified the saying “opposites attract”, they were it!

Oh that's lovely!

Here's my take on this week. (and it's just my take ) BP 1 Sussex 0

H lost his ANL case and the media won't let him forget this
H & M threw out a lot of sound and fury about KC not giving H a bed for the night at BP - which some understand the reasons behind - I think by and large BP have put their case better
The "will they won't they" turn up , or unless H gets what he wants has been shown to be ludicrous and tedious
H has been able to traverse the UK quietly and without incident despite his Ravec waaaaaagh
H&M and A&L have been able to meet his father quietly ( and my goodness shouldn't they be grateful for his - KC's - and Camilla's calm grace in doing this)
It looks like W wants no part of all this reconciliation

I do understand the argument that H should have a very public slap down and that meeting KC and C was a "give". But It is clear - (and reported ) that this was a private family meeting. No further details , no photographs. I don't think that implies KC is going to pay H's ANL costs, is trying to get H&M back into the WRF , none of that. (Clearly I was not there and don't know what was said) Less than two hours with tea and a turn around the garden doesn't mean H will be welcomed back into the WRF.

That said - I would have liked to see that little goat at the Scotty's Little soldiers event butt H in the gentlemanly parts. What an end to the week that would have been. (this does not reflect well on me , I know )

ETA - I think no photographs is a sanction. I think KC has the measure of them.

Lol are you serious? You only see a handful of pictures of the children and where they were and what they are doing, this does not equate to them not going out and doing lots of things, you just haven't heard about them all.

We only see the Wales children a handful of times should we therefore equate that to them having no friends not going to birthday parties or doing other activities and therefore are being locked up only to be let out for a few ballet/sports and public events with their parents.

I do agree though that families are smaller as its unaffordable to have lots of children for one thing, some families aren't close due to toxic behaviour, some drift apart living far away that its hard to maintain close relationships and so yes it doesn't mean children miss out. You create your own family even if they are not blood related.

The warrior prince? Wanting his children to attend engagements? Delusional isn't he.

From that article I think Harry is reading far more into a brief visit with his Father than the palace are. It reminds me of the previous statement that he mistook tea and scones for the Treaty of Versailles. Nice for Grandad to meet his grandkids.

Thank you, I will have a look at SK’s video. I can imagine her disappointment. She’s extremely thorough and encyclopaedic on how the Meghan/Sussex saga has been spun through the media over these last 12 years (even pre the official Harry years).

I can’t wait to see her reaction to the Times article posted above. Harry saw KC yesterday, and already by today his friends have briefed the Times on his state of mind. They didn’t even wait to go back to Montecito to start blabbing. Meanwhile I have seen a lot of anger today on SM towards Charles, and I think your observation that it’s been a testing of the public’s response is an accurate one, because we have a “friend” of Charles and a royal aide already talking to the Times about how he is doing his very best as a grandfather and head of state - diddums! Don’t be mean to Charles!

For the record, I have always supported Charles, never liked Diana, never thought he should carry the can for his idiot son and brother. But he’s lost me now.

OMG!!!!

According to the Times - HAM wanted securidee so he could get the flatpacks involved in "public events" - no doubt trying to pitch them as working royals like the Waleslings to built a bigger brand

I’m afraid this thread now has gone a bit claypole @Indianrollerbird!

I really do agree with this. He’s a horrible, sinister, overgrown child. I feel so uncomfortable seeing him around other people’s kids. Especially after this week’s revelations. I don’t know why these orgs stay loyal to him.

Wash your mouth out!

@Indianrollerbird I hope we were just having a difference of opinion, but @BigWillyLittleTodger this is a step too far! 😆

Oh I have no doubt Harry has his minions out there making much more of this than it was. But, for me, that’s the problem. Charles should have known this would happen if he met him. And now what? The palace have to say, no it wasn’t anything like that, through a “friend” or “source close to”. Tiresome rival briefings until the next time? Or will he finally do something to shut them up and show them he isn’t playing anymore?

Claypole as in Rentaghost? You’re going to have to explain that to me, Jeff! 👻

Indeed! , rentaghost!! 😉

We were 💐

And now I have an earworm 👙😱🤣

Yeh, that makes no sense.

He has armed security in the US, yet the kids don’t get involved in any public events…at all.

So there’s no way they would be involved in events here. Just more rubbish they are putting out.