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Recklessismymiddlename · 22/07/2026 16:00

I’ve said before and will say it again, if people think it’s only AMW and PM I’d be very very surprised. Why have successive governments turned the other way??? I bet other profile men are involved.

I wouldn’t know who and I don’t know why but it’s an educated guess or conspiracy theory or whatever but I’d make a bet on it. Just not my house, because I bet it would be covered up. AMW & PM have been handed up to shut people up I think. Or is that a step too far?

Ferrycrossingmakingwaves9 · 22/07/2026 18:32

simpsonthecat · 22/07/2026 15:21

Good points. Totally agree. If it were the Met, it would be a no hoper.

I do think the Palace and successive governments work very hard keeping us in the dark about what goes on and doing everything to avoid public scrutiny

Yes I would love to be a fly on the wall and party to how these decisions are made with regard to what is, and what isn’t, being covered up? And on what basis? And how? And what cover-ups qualify as “for the good of the country” or “the little people” and are therefore considered justifiable? 😬

Edited: and if they are ever recorded in some archive or other only to be released one hundred years from now?

Ferrycrossingmakingwaves9 · 22/07/2026 18:39

Recklessismymiddlename · 22/07/2026 16:00

I’ve said before and will say it again, if people think it’s only AMW and PM I’d be very very surprised. Why have successive governments turned the other way??? I bet other profile men are involved.

I wouldn’t know who and I don’t know why but it’s an educated guess or conspiracy theory or whatever but I’d make a bet on it. Just not my house, because I bet it would be covered up. AMW & PM have been handed up to shut people up I think. Or is that a step too far?

I wholly agree that AMW and PM are obviously not the only perpetrators but my thoughts on this are that in the UK we should bring our own to justice and let other countries deal with their felons too.

And if the UK do have the balls to prosecute AMW or PM it can only help to shine more light on other perps elsewhere, for example, interesting previously hidden details tend to pop up in trials about associates etc and who did or didn’t appear in certain travel logs… .

CathyorClaire · 22/07/2026 20:02

Ferrycrossingmakingwaves9 · 22/07/2026 12:31

I saw a clip of Andrew Lownie on sm yesterday saying that he doubts AMW will be charged and he thinks he will be shipped off to the Middle East like the old King of Spain (who has now ended up in Portugal).

Lownie says AMW knows too much, isn’t remotely remorseful and isn’t cooperating, and that KC won’t finally cut him off which is an ongoing point of contention between him and William.

Edited

I think this is exactly right and I have no doubt C3 is underwriting MW as he has and does so many others.

MW is supposed to shortly be appearing in court as a witness in the alleged 'attack' case against him earlier this year. The reports had him accompanied by 'bodyguards'.

I don't suppose he's dipping into his own dodgily acquired funds to pay them.

And thanks BrandiedAromatics for the link.

Yet anther 'modelling agent' indeed.

Recklessismymiddlename · 22/07/2026 21:41

I should have been clearer @Ferrycrossingmakingwaves9 i dont think they are the only two in the uk. But yes let’s see them prosecuted. But I reckon that unfortunately it’s not very likely. One can but hope. Maybe not for the Epstein stuff but at least get them for misconduct in public office.

HoldMyWine · 23/07/2026 07:13

It’s a deadly business being associated with Epstein.

HoldMyWine · 23/07/2026 09:47

Blind gossip on X seems to be alluding to EMM or JB. This rumour seems to keep popping up which makes me think there may be something in it.

AMW continuing his effort to end the Monarchy part 5
Ferrycrossingmakingwaves9 · 23/07/2026 11:29

Recklessismymiddlename · 22/07/2026 21:41

I should have been clearer @Ferrycrossingmakingwaves9 i dont think they are the only two in the uk. But yes let’s see them prosecuted. But I reckon that unfortunately it’s not very likely. One can but hope. Maybe not for the Epstein stuff but at least get them for misconduct in public office.

Sorry I think I misinterpreted
Recklessismymiddlename!

Totally agree! 👍👍

wheresthesnowgone · 23/07/2026 12:09

simpsonthecat · 08/07/2026 10:14

Whilst I am not a fan of any of them, both Camilla and Sophie do support good causes, but it is rather contradictory isn't it, given AMW's actions. Eugenie had to walk away from her anti slavery trafficking charity, quite rightly.

I don't believe the charity raised much money for victims. It was mostly used to pay her expenses.

palorina · 23/07/2026 12:20

Where's Sarah F and who is funding her now?

KC will not do any more about AMW unless forced by the scruff of his neck. Things have receded into the background for most people now. Look - over there, George is a teenager, he's going to Eton, perfect distraction.

If this was in any other so called "ordinary family", what would happen I wonder?

simpsonthecat · 23/07/2026 13:23

wheresthesnowgone · 23/07/2026 12:09

I don't believe the charity raised much money for victims. It was mostly used to pay her expenses.

And hold a very lavish Gala

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Ferrycrossingmakingwaves9 · 23/07/2026 13:47

simpsonthecat · 08/07/2026 09:53

We know Anne and Edward support him. I honestly think they all possibly think this is no biggie as far as AMW but something that had to be done because of the worldwide publicity about the Epstein files.

Nothing would've happened without those.
I think they brushed off the VG stuff with a whip round to hush it all up.

To me, it's the Trade Envoy stuff that blew it for him. He was forwarding government invest documents, official visit reports and confidential govt reports to JE and others. That cannot be ignored

It is strange about Edward and Anne supporting him isn’t it? I mean to the degree that it is known about publicly? I can understand loyalty to a brother who has gone down the wrong path but you would offer that in private surely?

It does make you wonder about their values and look at them slightly differently?

It also makes you wonder if they have actually read Entitled? Or do they just exist in a bubble of obligation and loyalty bc they are all dependent on the system for money?

CathyorClaire · 23/07/2026 20:43

HoldMyWine · 23/07/2026 09:47

Blind gossip on X seems to be alluding to EMM or JB. This rumour seems to keep popping up which makes me think there may be something in it.

Interesting one.

Another that hasn't gone away.

Lalgarh · 24/07/2026 12:02

Im still trying to work out who those initials are

Oh hang on it took a while, panic over

AnnunciataM · 25/07/2026 18:15

Apparently Sarah had been staying with her ex Paddy McNally at his Swiss chalet and now that he's died, she could potentially be in line for a slice of his fortune! That woman has more lives than a cat...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/07/24/f1-tycoon-death-could-solve-sarah-ferguson-money-problems/

CathyorClaire · 25/07/2026 20:57

More fool him if he's left her a brass farthing but even if he has she'll have spunked it before he can turn in his grave.

BrandiedAromatics · 25/07/2026 21:23

I wonder why she didn't keep sponging off McNally instead of grovelling to Epstein. But, I suppose it needn't be either or .....

AnnunciataM · 25/07/2026 22:57

She always manages to find someone who'll foot her bills but lessons are never learned. How many times has she been in serious debt?

simpsonthecat · 26/07/2026 07:05

QE2 bailed her out from near bankruptcy two or three times. The Royals make a habit of paying people off rather than scandal or media coverage

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nottinghall · 26/07/2026 10:41

who are PM, EBB and JB? any hints?

HoldMyWine · 26/07/2026 10:44

nottinghall · 26/07/2026 10:41

who are PM, EBB and JB? any hints?

Peter Mandelson
Eduardo Mappi Mozelli(sp?)
Jack Brooksbank

nottinghall · 26/07/2026 13:28

aha. thanks

AnAutumnCrow · 27/07/2026 12:58

BrandiedAromatics · 26/07/2026 13:47

I expect most of you know all this but it may be an update:

I’ve been exposing the royals for decades. Andrew has pushed them to the brink

Thanks for this.

Almost 25 years ago, I introduced a debate in Parliament on royal finances. Other than two sparsely attended government statements, it was the only occasion royal matters were discussed in my 18 years as an MP.
My debate was attended by just three people – the government minister replying (Baroness Primarolo), a government whip, and me. MPs simply weren’t interested in royal finances, doubtless to the Palace’s satisfaction.

So that was in, say, autumn/winter 2002? And Norman Baker couldn't get a single other MP to sit in the debate about his? That's really strange. Normally he'd should have been able to count on a few Lib Dem colleagues or some of the nationalist MPs from the other nations. (The Lib Dems had 52 MPs in the 2001-2005 parliament. Yes, I had to look that up.)

I'm assuming this was an Adjournment Debate - the parliamentary equivalent of a chat in a broom cupboard after everyone else has gone home - which is all the Speaker would permit?