PR Disasters thread 20

[OctopusFriend]

More to chat about

I was simply pointing out that H's behavior is a consequence of a lifetime of being shielded from accountability.

To be clear, I hold KC3 responsible for not protecting his veterans today.

KC3 knows his son. He knows full well that H hasn't got the common sense God gave an amoeba. KC3 also knows that H has lost his Hollywood deals and needs the royal connection. KC3 has all the leverage, and, IMHO, KC3 should use said leverage to protect his veterans from H.

Indeed, Harry isn't protecting his children's privacy and is allowing them to be exploited. He's often absent in different countries to his children and he's a poor role model. God knows what will happen when those poor children read "Spare".

Not to mention happy to use them for social media clicks and to flog jam but delivers hypocritical lectures to others about keeping children off social media

Why? Why is it down to KC? He has to baby Harry, even though he himself is elderly, has a very demanding role and is undergoing treatment for cancer?
Meanwhile Harry has no job, plenty of money, fit and healthy and is responsible for his own actions.
Time he stepped up. Every other adult has to. So should Harry.

Oh no doubt that'll be KC's fault. Harry wasn't given enough jam as a child or something 😂!

Thanks for the thread.

Well I bring news which may or may not be significant. A friend was just driving from Cirencester back to her home in Bristol, a route which passes through Tetbury and on past Highgrove down to the M4
The road past Highgrove is closed. Apparently there was no road closed warning until she got just beyond Tetbury, there was a barrier up guarded by a single police car. She needed to take a diversion around which brought her back to the main road just before Westonbirt. The road was again closed with a barrier guarded by a single police car. There doesn’t appear to have been an accident and no sign of any roadworks. I just wonder if the approach to Highgrove has been shut off from prying eyes. 🤔
Would Charles have them to stay there? All weekend?
I can’t remember but is the one year to go event meant to be in Saturday or was that the visit to Birmingham Children’s Hospital? (Or both same day?)
Easy to pop up to Birmingham from Highgrove too.

As Maureen Callahan put it, we will be reading Archie's book in years to come

Sadly, I think that'll be true.

Interesting, Siri, but KC is currently at Holyrood. So who knows?

Also if anyone was flying in from Portugal a British Airways flight from Faro has just landed at Heathrow.

Skipping over the fact that KC3 is Commander-in-chief? Lord Allen is Chair. Rob Owen is CEO.

All three men have a duty to protect veterans from any and all individuals looking to prey on veterans be it for financial gain or reputational gain.

KC3 in his capacity as King has a far greater duty to all veterans than either Allen or Owen.

I'm skipping over nothing. Harry is skipping over adulthood.

True @OctopusFriend

Though I imagine Highgrove would classify as a Royal residence with suitable security though I’d have thought they’d need to put him (+/- Meghan and children) in the housekeeper’s cottage or somewhere, to avoid them having access to the main house with all the opportunities for photography that would present.

It must vex H&M that KC pays William £500k per year rent for Highgrove!

I see where you are going with this @My2cents1975 and I have to say , from memory , about 99% of your posts I agree with. And I agree with most of that post. However , I'm not sure what you would like KC3 to do. Ask H to step down from the IG. That's a bit tricky. I'm sure KC would love that to happen but apart from a father / son conversation , how could KC actually make that happen. Does there have to be a quid pro quo for that for H. If KC could do anything I would say he and W and other members of the WRF could say to the IG they will not interfere with H's charity and let IG draw their own conclusions. I may be being dim here so do say if I have missed your point. Genuinely this is in the spirit of discussion.

I don't know My2cents - I suspect it isn't quite as easy as all that all ways round. I am sure there are many who would love it and breathe a sigh of relief if H suddenly said - Thank you all but my IG days are over. However , IG don't appear to be doing anything about that.

Where I absolutely am on board with you is "H's behavior is a consequence of a lifetime of being shielded from accountability."
BTW I also agree with the amoeba bit 😊

Edit - I am slow at typing and had to let the dog out so my post has been superseded big time in the interim. 😂

I agree with you all. H is a terrible human being, and it’s a shame that he has had so many enablers for far too long.

Bit tired of it , but many, many, thanks for the thread @OctopusFriend ❤️

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@My2cents1975. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Now I have started posting I seem to not be able to stop! As for KC not reigning in Harry, his son is now mid-40s and has a few decades of the best advice and therapy money can buy. I have limited sympathy now for his narrative. Whilst the photos of him walking behind his mother's coffin are heartbreaking, his brother had the same experience and somehow is not afforded the same narrative/sympathy.

For context my DC lost a parent suddenly at aged 8, and whilst admittedly not in the media glare or having to walk publicly behind the coffin, they have not had the therapy and support available to ex-HRH. As a social worker, I was aware that the trauma would present itself some years later and we dealt with that when it arose, as much as we could with no access to services and also having to get on with our daily lives.

Whilst I do have a level of empathy that Harry lost his mother in a very public way at an early age, I really struggle with they way he insists it defines him and his ongoing behavior into his 5th decade. He has access to the best support and therapy that money can buy. Whilst I appreciate that this will always be difficult for him, I cannot help but think he does not actually want to move past this victim narrative and move on. For context I work with and know people who have have suffered significant early life trauma. Most want to somehow 'package' it in a way they can move in with their lives. Those who cannot wish they could

Excellent points, @Dameputtingonabraveface. 👍

I think that Harry would have been a lot better off if he had worked a minimum wage job as a teenager in the same way that Lady Louise did for £5 per hour. Harry seems to treat expenses and costs as though it is monopoly money and that being a prince means all expenses paid.

Welcome @Dameputtingonabraveface to the threads - appreciate your posts.

I can only imagine how difficult it was to support your child through that time

@My2cents1975 I am usually very much on your wavelength but in this case am with others in feeling that Harry, as an adult, is responsible for his own behaviour. Many people have much more difficult childhoods than he, and manage to come to this conclusion well before the age of 40.

With regard to KC3, I'm not entirely sure what he should be doing in relation to Invictus.
It wasn't a Royal patronage, hence why it wasn't taken from Harry at the time when he stepped back from being a working royal (those were detailed at the time).
He can't interfere in the working of the charity - I can imagine the complaints to the Charity Commission about that (not least from Republic, who would love the opportunity).

The people with responsibility for Invictus are the trustees.

Could it just be the King returning from Holyrood week?

If they are in Melides perhaps most likely to fly Lisbon to LHR?