PR disasters - thread 19

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Can’t see a new thread and am pretty sure there is still lots to discuss !

Here is the archived version of the report released to Chris Ship.

https://archive.ph/wrU2b

So Harry is under so much threat he has released details of his security provision ahead of his visit and told those his team thinks are threatening him that they don't know where they are.

The two biggest threats to Harry's security are Harry and his security team.

Absolutely.

Sometimes I think he actually wants to encourage some sort of attempt on his life so he can prove a point .

"But Harry's office says they received a letter at the end of last week saying they could have the phone number of a police liaison officer during the visit, but nothing more."

LOL. I am actually beginning to have some sympathy now. We all know how women who are victims of domestic violence or who are being stalked are so well protected by their police liaison officer telephone number (ie NOT).

But really, if he is at such risk it's better he stays away from the Royal family, rather than heap more risk upon them. And of course, the biggest risk is himself, broadcasting his plans, sending an invite to a member of the Sussex squad who posted it on X etc (and is probably one of the fixated stalkers anyway).

Just stay away Harry, keep a low profile and SHUT UP.

@Rainingcatsandog- that's what was obvious from the Netflix programme. They were desperate to identify paps and supposed threats.

Fucking hell, he’s absolutely desperate isn’t he. He really believes he can bully the government into giving him the security he demands.

This is really going to blow up I think. I’m not sure that the government can stand back and let this go uncontested.

What has his team actually done, just trawled Reddit, X and the DM comments looking for anything vaguely threatening? it’s absolute nonsense.

Totally agree. Would he go as far as to stage it? I’m not sure but I wouldn’t put it past him. But certainly I think he actively wants something to happen so he’ll get his way. But it also proves beyond a doubt that he has no genuine fear. Someone that concerned would never behave the way that he has, releasing his full itinerary and the details of this report to the media.

I think he is really mentally ill now. What can Charles do in this situation? It must keep him awake at night.

Plus identifiable images of the children and their locations.

Surely the obvious, logical, economic, best-for-Invictus solution to the report is “don’t go to the U.K., then”?

Setting aside his petulance and tantrumming, Harry is so, so stupid for putting out into the public that the FBI intercepted this or that Al-Qaeda Telegram message. He’s a threat of his own making. I’m going to guess that the “please the client who’s paying you” private security company’s report was marked private and confidential, not for publication. So that’s more trouble he’s got himself and others into.

Setting aside also that Harry himself put in Spare that he saw human targets as chess pieces rather than as actual people, he’s just provided proof that by his own actions he’s not just increased the threat against himself but against anyone who is around him, including Invictus participants and spectator.

Just WHAT does he think he’s doing? Isn’t it blindingly obvious he’s putting himself, his family and untold others at risk by his actions and that the best and safest option for everyone is to stay away? He’s putting himself in self-imposed exile. By his actions, making more and more things public, honing in on himself rather than even for a second thinking of others, he’s making it easier and easier for everyone concerned to tell him not to come to the U.K.

And even if he gets it, what does he think armed security will actually do? Does he actually want a shoot out on the streets of Birmingham??

When he bleats on about how he’s had a life of service, what exactly does he mean? How is he serving Invictus or the people of Birmingham or the police officers he wants around him, by putting all these demands and all this information out into the public domain? Who does he think is serving him?

It’s as though he’s done something off his own bat for the first time - initiated and paid for a security assessment, however reliable and lacking in discerning review it may be - and is brandishing it in the faces of anyone who looks as the gospel truth. It’s like my teenaged DD using her pocket money on a cellphone deal that the cellphone company told her is best for her, and trying to get me to reimburse her for what was an obvious marketing rip off she fell for and then telling the whole world I’m mean fir not reimbursing her and in so doing letting everyone know how gullible and financially illiterate she is.

Yes, GMB are totally biased towards HaM, they've shown it many times before.

Yes, the bias is very definitely pro H&M. However, they did say that it was from Harry's own security company and also they had a counter terror expert on for a bit of balance.

It was inevitable that PH was going to send his pathetic report to the media once Ravec told him to fuck off with it.

Read this latest blog post yesterday and thought then I'd need to share it here, but it's taken me till now to catch up! Below:

Prince Harry’s bitter defeat in his fight to restore taxpayer-funded security is fueling what friends increasingly fear has become a life dominated by paranoia.

Sources tell Naughty But Nice the Duke of Sussex has become consumed by security concerns since losing his court battle, with those closest to him saying the ruling only reinforced his belief that danger is lurking around every corner.

“Harry sees threats everywhere,” one insider tells Naughty But Nice. “The court decision didn’t just disappoint him—it confirmed what he already believed: that no one else is going to keep his family safe.”

Friends say his daily life has become governed by elaborate security rituals. Homes and hotel rooms are swept for listening devices before he settles in. He frequently changes phone numbers, limits who can contact him directly, and insists that his movements remain known to only a tiny circle of trusted aides.

Sources also claim Harry has pushed for decoy vehicles during some trips to make it harder to track his whereabouts.

“Security isn’t just a priority anymore—it’s an obsession,” says a second source. “Every plan starts with the worst-case scenario. He assumes someone is watching, someone is listening, or someone knows where he is.”

Those closest to the prince worry that years of family conflict, legal battles, and relentless media attention have left him trapped in a constant state of hypervigilance.

“Everyone wants Harry to find some peace,” another insider says. “Being careful is understandable, but living as though every day brings a new threat is emotionally exhausting. Friends hope he can eventually let his guard down before fear completely takes over.”

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OK, the paranoia described here totally fits. Other points that interested me: 'has pushed for decoy vehicles' makes it sound like that wasn't successful. Wonder which trip that was. And the 'movements only known to a tiny circle of trusted aides' - ok but it's odd alongside the regular leaking and announcing of his movements.

The other strange thing (or maybe not) is how it's focused on himself. The kids are who he says he needs security for. Yet this is all about the threat to him, and when he and M go off overseas visits he doesn't seem to worry that the kids are thousands of miles away from them - which I would.

I've been thinking that for a while now, in fact I believe the infamous fake "car chase" in New York was a lame attempt to do just that.

Most definitely.

It's simply not comparable with the position of a woman at risk of domestic violence. If he stays on Royal premises, he will be surrounded by 100% security all the time he is there, and you can bet that in practice the police (and probably security services) will be briefed to keep an eye on him when he is out and about. No-one is going to take any avoidable risks, and he knows that perfectly well.

Of course. He doesn't have to catch a bus, or go on the underground, he's not going to a random restaurant or bar. He will be well looked after.
Although he might want to avoid knocking on random doors in London. Just a thought.

I agree

Very true. Initially his fears seemed to be for Meghan. It seems they are for himself now. Classic paranoia and dare I say it, psychosis.

Especially of you note Doria and MMs disposition - indifferent, bored, looking like they were quietly exasperated with his nonsense behaviour.

As far as I can make out there has only ever been one deep dive into the figures and it's based on estimates of H's rumoured advance but reports still make for interesting reading:

archive.ph/jS93h

I think it's quite telling that the world is still waiting for three of the four books in the deal.

If you mean an actual visible attack, rather than a wholly invented thing like the "near catastrophic car chase", he'd presumably need someone to play along and I can't quite think where he'd get them?

I suppose he could approach some of his nuttier fans - isn't there one who's said to also be his alleged stalker? - but such folk could never be trusted to keep quiet about "what they'd done for him" and he'd end up (if this is possible) looking even more ridiculous than he does now

And it's a pity nobody's so far released the full report he's supposedly sent to Ravec from his own security people ... it would no doubt make interesting reading

Exactly, Haz looked as if he was going to cry, Megan looked like the cat that got the cream and Doreen, who knows what side her bread's buttered, seemed to be asleep, which seems unusual behaviour in a high speed car chase!