PR disasters - thread 19

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Can’t see a new thread and am pretty sure there is still lots to discuss !

Poor Catherine. I wouldn't have stuck with him , she's far better than he deserves.

So Harry has now been exposed as trying to put pressure on the UK government to give him what he believes he should have, It seems Harry’s team did their own risk assessment and submitted it to the Home Office and based on that assessment they announced Harry and his family would have the required security.

“He believed he would be given the protection after his personal security team submitted a Threat Risk Assessment to the Home Office, leading him to put out a public statement that he was travelling to the UK with wife Meghan and their two children, Archie and Lilibet, for the first time in four years.’
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’‘’But he was left stunned after releasing the quasi-royal operational note last friday when Ravec sent him a letter 24 hours later stating their situation had not changed. Home Office sources accused the Prince of an “attempt to pressure the government", when the British government had given no indication its position would change.
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A source said: “The position has not changed and the Duke of Sussex has been duly notified. Any decision by the Duke to travel to the United Kingdom is entirely one for him alone and will not be swayed by any external attempt to pressure the government.”

What an absolute arrogant manipulative bastard, and we can all imagine how embellished and untrue that report is. He really is despicable.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/king-charles-prince-harry-dinner-37372559

He thinks if he just carries on bleating he'll get his way. Obviously something he learned in childhood.

I always think of Meghan as a Becky Sharpe figure.

Which probably didn't always work. Now his wife enables this attitude and behaviour.

I wonder if there is another factor at play here as well. Many Americans I've known are wonderful people, I'll say that to start, but several of them and many others you can see on social media, really have bought into American exceptionalism and often have a lack of knowledge about how other places work.

Harry, who isn't the brightest bulb and didn't have the best grasp on how his culture works to start with, is now advised by people who probably have no idea how the establishment works. I can quite see his security making a grandiose threat assessment, without any official intelligence, and expecting RAVEC to fall into line. Harry would then of course assume it was happening.

I'm pretty sure this was part of the problem with Meghan and him initially. She retained all her American advisors and they are probably being given terrible advice on navigating an institution that they completely failed to understand.

I don't think Meghan is a delicate flower and she has agency in all this. My point was that I can quite see Harry painting a far rosier picture of life in the Royal family because he so wanted to settle down. Meghan, who chose to lean on her American team rather than listen to those the Queen offered to help her, had no way of getting a full picture of what her life would be like on the inside.

They are both culpable of course, a real folie a deux.

It will be about age now - look at Jerry Hall … had to marry Rupert Murdoch in his 90s and Jackie Kennedy - ugly old man Onassis - however each of these women had good personal reps

Exactly, basically Harry thinks the Yanks are better at assessing his security needs in the UK than any of the government security experts we have here. I bet he paid $$$$ for them to indulge him in his efforts at coercing the Home Office.

Anyone else seen the itv news headlines? Apparently they have seen a "security document" which says that threats against Harry are be serious and he needs high level protection.
A Met representative says that his security provision has been assessed and is appropriate.
I wonder where this "security document" came from? I wonder how these people know more than RAVEC?
Most peculiar.

We know PH only needs / wants the blue light security cavalcade for the photo opps - why didn’t he just get a filming permit and hire cars and actors to film some footage in London or him and his family screeching around - they could have thrown in some fake paps on motorbikes - no one would have known any different.

Good advice!

Oh here we go - they've confirmed that the document comes from Harry. Yes, I'm convinced!

It’s probably the same assessment done by PH’a US security team - who have zero access to international intelligence - they are probs a couple of ex bouncers from The Viper Room.

if Reddit is to be believed, Harry’s ‘team’ submitted a 40 page document to the Home office outlining some threats and the potential security risk to ‘the public’ IF Harry was targeted by terrorists.

If that is the case he needs to cancel all his public engagements and why the fuck is he exposing wife and children to such ‘risk’ .

i saw a funny comment on Reddit. ‘If that’s the case, why is he not moving all public engagements to a safer country, like Ukraine, Nigeria or Colombia.”

Invictus cannot go ahead with any of this if Harry really believes there is a risk to Harry, his family and the general public, purely for a bit of PR for their games.

Yes. I never watch GMB but it happened to be on when I switched on the tv. It was first thing on the news, ahead of the England match. I don’t think they mentioned it was H’s own private report. Nor did they add any context as to how many potential terror threats are faced by senior royals every year.

Ah, just came on to discuss the Chris Ship “exclusive” that’s been spoon fed to him from Montecito. A report written by Prince Harry’s camp is NOT proof of threats! I could write a report saying I’m being threatened - doesn’t mean it’s true.

Absolutely. The former head of Counter Terrorism says that the report contains "background threats" which are not necessarily current.
The CT officer says MI5 and MI6 will be tracking any threats.
Harry wants an armed Close Protection Team. That's deemed not necessary by the objective assessors.

God, this is such a fiasco.

and for all those who claim Harry is not costing the UK taxpayer anything, currently there is a whole Home office communications department of tax payer funded employees, spending all month responding to Harry’s unnecessary media campaign against them and a whole other security department wasting tax payer money going through, what is likely to be, a nonsensical security report.

What a waste of resources.

Fuck off Harry.

Chris Ship is as ignorant as Harry. He says it's from "His Majesty's Government" and HM is Harry's dad.
Doesn't he know that KC isn't the Head of Government?

Omg the arrogance of the man, thinking his paid for security lackeys are better informed than the intelligence services. What a complete prat. I hope he paid good money for that report , serves him right.

He is absolutely paranoid. He's effectively drawing as much attention to himself as possible.

Also, why would the Taliban or whoever only target him within the UK? Why not do it in Australia or Portugal or on the school run in Montecito where it would be far easier? I’m glad RAVEC has seen it for the nonsense it is.

That’s is it, he is desperately trying to manufacture a security threat !

So this 40 pager was submitted when do we know - at least a week ago?
Has this been amplified to Chris S as a) last gasp effort to get the security or b) to lay the groundwork for cancelling trip so not to be in the UK on7th which is apparently ANL judgement day? Obviously we don’t know outcome of judgement but presumably H does now?