PR disasters Thread 17

[Mylovelygreendress]

Can’t see a new thread so thought I would start a new one to continue discussing the grifters

I agree. They’ve been very protective of her memory. And you make a good point. They’ve done a lovely job of keeping above it all and not appearing to take “sides”. I’m sure it has not been easy for them, either.

I wanted to say I appreciate your posts on the other thread @NotTalkinBoutTheLinen! Many thanks 🙏

i get the fatigue but for a lot of people, H&M are just doing what they said they wanted to do - be independent financially. Unfortunately, neither had the work ethic to make the early opportunities work and so now they are souped up influencers. Not my cup of tea but it is a well-trodden route for many celebrities.

If H&M do this on the back of appearances with the senior working royals or with any sanctioned role on the international stage, I think the royal family will lose the confidence of most of the public. Why should taxpayers pay for royal duties if they can subsidise it themselves by merching themselves? It undermines the core principles of charitable organisations if patrons or ambassadors profit personally from any appearances. I hope Charles is wise enough to reach some sort of personal rapprochement with his son whilst ring fencing the work of the monarch and household.

I see your point.

But I think, for the British public, the damage to the RF, if they let H&M take advantage of their RF adjacency, would be to the RF brand.

The British public won't be thinking "if the RF can earn from commercial merching, why don't they? I'm done with them!"

The British public will be thinking "this couple dragged our HoS, the RF and ghe British press and dissed them and us as racists. Why TF are they now back in? Has the RF lost its mind?"

Charles Spencer might ban a film crew, thenightsky, but an image taken on a phone could do the job and he can hardly ban Harry from visiting his mother's grave

And if Meghan does show up what's he supposed to do? I can't imagine "Harry and the kids can go but you have to stay here" would go down well, and anyway what's to say Harry isn't now disturbed enough to take the picture himself?

All in all it would probably be best if Meghan stays home, but whether she will remains to be seen

Yes and it’s not like they can frisk them.

A lot of people either have forgotten or were not paying attention! , ham didn’t just accuse the royal family of racism, they didn’t just accuse the U.K. media of racism, they didn’t just refer to the commonwealth as empire 2.0 , they didn’t just alter the queens coronation speech to align with their narrative or fabricate false magazine covers or press photographs!
no they actually accused all the people of the U.K. of racism!! Why are people ok with that? , why would we want to re embrace them after such lies?
I have not forgotten! , I’m not alone!

I think they will all come. I don't think Meghan wants to, but there will be enormous interest and coverage.

Any outfits worn will appear on the shopping page and she will get commission on clicks/sales.

I imagine Meghan might also use the opportunity to get some English countryside images of her products for As Ever.

Meghan will come and do the whole wide eyed tentative clutching at Harry thing.

Meghan will not come! And she will not bring the children! , she is not capable of dealing with the very real consequences of her actions! , the moderate booing they received put the wind up them , she is too thin skinned to face that again and this time it will be worse.

on here and sm the loud voices of the minority might have an affect, in reality the majority are very much against them!
it’s the republic protest in reverse.

Could we just plan to eat that hat either way?

Yeah ! Fuck it ! Let’s eat the hat!

I don't think Meghan or the kids will come either. If they do, no one will want to meet them.

The royalty effect only works if the clothes are High St and the wearer makes them look, well... less High St e.g. the Zara blazer.
Meghan sometimes wears very expensive clothes and makes them look High St because they don't fit her properly, which is the exact opposite of the desired effect.
She can look absolutely amazing though.

Only when KC was footing the bill for bespoke top designer gear.

The pennies might be dropping here because someone said A&L were dressed in Zara (with Shopify links) for the Fathers Day photo - so that might well be the way forward for all 4 of them. Catalogue family.

None of them look very inspirational or should I say aspirational though do they? They're reduced to selling the clothes off their backs as it were.

I think she will come as they are desperate for some marketing materials with royal adjacency - even if they are not allowed to film on any of the royal estate or with any of the RF - they will do a photo shoot in some corners at some old NT property that to Americans will pass as a royal castle - and some classic British sites ….. but she won’t do anything in public to avoid the booing. The IG event is ticketed at the NEC on Fri 10th July and the audience wouldn’t boo her - and probs aren’t allowed their phones or to share footage.

She has zero royal glitter currently, As Ever is circling the drain - shes brazen and tenacious and this is the only legit reason (IG) for her to be hear.

I do think that PH will want his DCs at this age to experience the UK - and who knows how long KC3 last left.

The children always look scruffy, hardly aspirational.

It's going to look rather silly bringing the children and a bit sad, since they won't be meeting anyone except maybe tea with Grandpa, won't be getting to see any of the Royal palaces etc except maybe one of the gloomy flats in Buck Pal if the offer of accommodation is accepted and a brief glimpse of whatever room they take tea in at Clarence House. What will they do and where will they go? Possibly M&H are vile and manipulative enough to use the children this way to shame their relatives for freezing them out but on the whole I think they won't be coming.

Earl Spencer has said there will be no filming, will there be no visit either? He's no/low contact with most of his kids isn't he - he doesn't strike me as being the sort to push the boat out to welcome the troublesome branch of the family for a day trip or whatever. I wonder if it is true he dropped in on them in Montecito 🤔 I think he is one person who would not hold back from making his views quite clear, he is far enough removed from close family but holds the legacy of Diana and her grave etc at his home so he has the power. We have no idea if William +/- children and Catherine ever visit him and visit Diana's grave. They probably have, William at least, but of course these things are private and we hear nothing about it. Yet of course when Harry took Meghan to see the grave we heard far too much about it in his book. I'd be making it quite clear the only person to view the grave would be Harry, alone, no photos, and absolutely NO MENTION of it in the press or else... if I were him. It would be churlish not to allow him to visit his mother's grave, ever, but I wouldn't be letting it become a regular social event, "Oh God, Harry wants to visit again ...I'll have to offer lunch and entertain him and the wife 😖😭". In fact, considering Althorp is open during July and August except for the weekend in July when it regularly closes, I'd be conveniently out of the country during July.

I'd be making it quite clear the only person to view the grave would be Harry, alone, no photos, and absolutely NO MENTION of it in the press or else

Or else what though, @ShamedBySiri?

Charles Spencer holds no power beyond perhaps telling Harry he could never visit again, and I can only imagine how Harry would respond to that.
I suppose he could also what H&M's behaviour had been like, and it might make for a few headlines, but would anyone be surprised any more?

As I've said before, once it's over it's over, and not just the once-glittering opportunities. They've alienated practically everyone with their trashy behaviour and the only thing left is a certain fascination in what horror they'll produce next

Typo

I remember being gobsmacked at the price of Meghan’s engagement dress. Diana, Kate, Sophie Wessex or Princess Anne didn’t spend big on their engagement outfits.
I also thought it most odd that Harry was in a day suit while Meghan was in a fancy ball gown.
We should have known………….
Very pretty girl though and I can understand why he fell for her.

Agree. They can’t even get this right. Everything they touch turns to (monte) shitshow. If I was Zara marketing team - I wouldn’t want my garments presented in such a shoddy way.

They wore basically day dresses or Zara's looked like regular outdoor gear. It just showed how grandiose she was.

“……It just showed how grandiose she was.”
It certainly did @OctopusFriend