PR Disasters thread 16.

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Meghan and Harry the grift that keeps on grifting. Long may they continue. Better than any soap opera on the telly.

Yes, they were in charge of handling, shipping, customer service, website maintenance etc etc

She can outsource to another company to do this for her, just Shopify doesn’t offer this.

Harry well could be in charge of packing…..he needs the money and is probably all that he’s qualified for.

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as points out (credit to Paula Froelich), Canadian veteran, Scott Snow was severely injured in Düsseldorf because there was no restraint on the wheelchair, and neither the Canadian team nor Invictus had insurance cover. He’s had to pay a fortune for physical therapy himself, and Harry’s office hasn’t responded to him

I don't understand this, @MyAutumnCrow, and having run public events myself would have thought public liability insurance to be essential

Maybe the rules are different in Germany (?) but the non-response from Harry's office is no surprise. As with so much else, anything which fails to suit will be treated with princely disdain

They've probably got enough clickbait material with everything else, but I strongly suspect it's only a matter of time - especially with the event coming to the UK

I think she’s running down the stock she has. Using limited edition collabs to keep people returning to the website.

Her whole premise of the business has changed. It was supposed to be ‘small offerings’ that teens could save their pocket for and reuse jam jars for the pencils for their desk. But that’s when she thought she could shift millions of jars and get her products in stores. That’s the only way the business would be profitable. That and being able to go ‘global’ which she talked about.

However, they are over a year since launch and they aren’t in stores yet. For a company that’s been given worldwide press attention….thats a bad sign. It means she can’t shift the numbers she needs. So she has now rebranded into a gift company specialising in bundles and the price point is £££s instead of £. So completely alienating the exact customer she supposedly went into business for. She also doesn’t get that many hits from the US on her website. Most are from UK, AUS and India. But the reality is it’s too high a bar to sell consumables in the UK/ AUS to meet regulations. So that won’t happen.

So she’s stuck on an online platform because she can’t get into stores, and is restricted to the US who don’t that much interest in her. So in an attempt to try and make some money….the business model has changed.

She’s lost two of her original business partners. She’s lost the tv and podcast that accompanied her business. There's only one way this company is going. 12 months tops.

There is no way he has got what he demanded - possibly he has realised what is on offer (28 days notice, full security on Royal Estates) is enough, or perhaps it will just be him that comes over.

His visit next month isnt indicative of anything

It's the one year to IG event that has been planned since it was announced 2yrs ago.

Harry was always going to be in the UK for that.
After he saw his PR ratings tumble after his last whingeathon he's maybe realised moaning about his security isn't the best idea? If he'd got it - he'd (IMO) definitely announce it. If Meghan comes and brings the children that would be a better indication the decision went his way. Although RAVEC would provide higher level securing that circumstance anyway.

Edit - clarification and spelling
Edit - after the leaks in Jan that his security was "ironed on" to be upgraded and never materialised, it's pretty obvious Harry would be leaking to all and sundry if he'd gotten his way.

But RAVEC does not have the remit to give Harry what he wants which is to have IPP status. He is outwith the strict definition and always will be while he is not representing the Head of State nor living in the Head of State's household as a dependent family member (ie spouse, child), as per pp.

H knows this, really. He just doesn't agree with it and doesn't like it. He feels that it is 'unfair' and that he can't help being born who he was, if I've heard his whingeing correctly. (This is the same 'born who he was' situation that miraculously has also made him royal and an international thought leader and all that gubbins ... he helpfully said so himself recently in Ukraine so he must know deep down that his position is not down to talent.)

Meanwhile, he'll get what he gets in the UK.

the Ingriftus finances are not reported in MSM unfortunately

Yes - he'd have been shouting from the rooftops if he'd got an upgrade.

I think we are saying roughly the same thing - it’s a reciprocal arrangement - if the UK designated H&M&L&A IPP status - the US Government for example would have to pay their 24/7 security as would any other countries they visited signed up to this reciprocal international agreement. PH seems to think his Dad can call it when it is in fact a highly sensitive political, security and government issue. H&Ms biggest bill is security and his aim is for tax payers anywhere to pick this up.

Harry thinks that he deserves all sorts just because of who he is, a bit like William. Trouble is that only applies if you happen to be someone of constitutional significance, which Harry is not. He also thinks his 'life of service' began when he was born. Weren't we lucky to have baby Harry serving us in between his naps and nappy changes. They are both so divorced from reality, it's hard to fathom how they function really. Meghan with her female founder / entrepreneur-but-also-a-foodie shtick, and how she doesn't want to be 'the face of the royal family' again, Harry with his global statesmanship, his 'birthright' and his 'platform', their 'PTSD' when Charles didn't put their interests ahead of the UK's, the grief tourism masquerading as compassion, it's all so transparent and kind of toe-curling to watch.

I think we are saying roughly the same thing - it’s a reciprocal arrangement

No it's not a 'reciprocal arrangement'. It's a UN treaty, with the status of international law.

Individual countries don't just get to decide that someone has 'IPP status' and therefore all signatory countries (which is most countries in the world) are obliged to provide that individual, and their families too, with expensive police protection whenever that individual pops over to their country.

That would mean that country A could theoretically make any random businessman or mate of the President into an 'IPP' and therefore guarantee that person police protection all over the world. That would be unworkable. IPP status is contingent on having accredited diplomatic status. That's not something one country can decide on its own and impose on everyone else.

Thanks for this. This I believe is what he has been after throughout - and his delusional and grandiose mindset just can’t fathom that he doesn’t meet this criteria and he has to put his hand in his own pocket rather than have taxpayers on min wage sweating round the clock to scratch a living during a permanent COL crisis pay for him, his wife and two DCs to lounge around a 14 bed house.

Thanks for the further clarification - makes total sense that it’s agreed internationally. I think PH thinks his Dad can swing it hence the bitterness, resentment and contempt.

From Richard Eden DM today

‘The second thing I was told this week is that Harry will be given police protection for next month’s visit, but that may be only for the events connected to Invictus.

‘When Harry came last September, he was granted police protection at certain times, such as when he attended the WellChild Awards,’ a source told me. ‘That will be the same this time for his Invictus events.’

A spokesman for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex told me: ‘There is no change in the security situation as far as we are aware. We wouldn’t comment on meetings with the Duke’s family.’

A Buckingham Palace spokesman declines to comment.”

Looks like it is might be status quo on the security front then.

Rumours abound Harry’s ‘team’ are calling around various charities offering visits / speech from Harry during his UK visit next month.

more speeches? Please no. Where he can discuss his mental health, his poor trolled wife and his dead mom

I hope you're right. As a taxpayer I will be mightily fucked off if we pay extra for that whinger to have security.

There might be a few estate agents who will indulge him 🙂

It will be interesting to see whether anyone takes him up on the visits/speeches, and if so, who.

Personally, I see him as a tainted brand, and his presence at a charity event would give me a more negative vibe about that charity. But maybe others see it differently. And I guess it would gain publicity, if nothing else.

Yes he does generate publicity so someone will always up for using that by inviting him.

Yes, sounds like there's been no change.

With that relatively subdued message from the spokesman I wonder if it has sunk in that the arrangement might well have been downgraded?

Loving the snarky second sentence - since when?

But I assume pay very little. What on earth does he realistically have to offer?? Free publicity maybe

I thought maybe a speech at Shelter where he can talk about the fact that he is also homeless now that Frogmore is being returned to its previous state.

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