PR Disasters thread 16.

[HoldMyWine]

Meghan and Harry the grift that keeps on grifting. Long may they continue. Better than any soap opera on the telly.

The security issue for PH is that he wants top tier so he is a designated IPP which means any where he travels in the world that country has to provide free security as an international reciprocal agreement. It’s not about insufficient security in the UK - it’s about PH getting free security 24/7 the world over - it’s about money.

That’s a great comment and I agree.
I do wish I had taken a screenshot of the statement they issued ( and deleted the next day) that as IPP , full time taxpayer funded security would continue.

Do you not think it is also about status ? William has it so H wants it .

Thanks for the thread @HoldMyWine 🙏

The thing that strikes me about Snow Commerce is the visibility of the whole thing.

I've used merching companies both in business and as an independent, and at the bottom line, it all comes down to volumes for price. They don't care or have a stake in your business except where you can negotiate on price on a volume basis. They have a finely tuned operation with hundreds of different suppliers and basically act as a broker. They have no vested stake in any of the companies they supply. You choose your price points, volumes, supply your artworks, or pay extra to use their in-house.

They're meant to be invisible. They might put who they supply on their website, but it's not intended to ever be visited by the public.

So this means three (not mutually exclusive) possibilities;

• she's giving up altogether.
• she's upgrading her supplier - unlikely, merch companies will supply anything for a price and they're usually very competitive.
• Snow wanted out because they or their other clients don't like the added scrutiny of their supply chains being made public.

Clearly I have missed something because I have no idea who/ what Snow Commerce is !

Not just him, M and the kids. So four separate teams 24/7

Harry has a very warped sense of who he is and what his value is to others. He thinks he is of equivalent status to William, the heir to the throne. When he is - by choice - not a working royal, not a UK resident and does nothing for the UK except damage its reputation and bleed the public purse through his ridiculous litigation. His delusion is such that he reportedly suggested that he might share the crown and the Duchy of Cornwall. He thought they were single-handedly modernising the monarchy, that Meghan (who demonstrably did not have what it takes) was better at being royal than the royals. He thought that he was so popular that he had to have security because the public would be devastated if something happened to him. He expected the RF to give them everything they wanted, apologise and beg them to return. He sees himself as an important global statesman with opinions that matter. None of this reflects reality. He is stupid, deeply unpopular, ridiculed by everyone from randoms on X to Putin and Trump, and has revealed so many character flaws and so much poor behaviour that imo he will never be a working royal again. The RF cannot afford entitled oafs, that much is clear, and its reputation right now is fragile enough. The idea that he is anywhere near William’s status is laughable, and everyone knows that except Harry. It’s quite pitiful really, must be very painful for Charles to watch him flailing around like this, with nobody looking after him. But all his choice and what can you do. Harry knows best 🤷‍♀️

@noonames- an excellent summary.
That's it, really.
I would just add that the RF gave him Invictus as a productive activity and playing to his strengths. KC supported this unequivocally.
Harry, of course, has never credited anyone for giving him such an incredible opportunity for a positive event on the world stage.

Will there be a public announcement of the RAVEC decision/review or will it come out when someone leaks their annoyance about it? I mean, I think we all know what it'll be - I can't see how under current political conditions any such committee could recommend a massive increase in costs to the taxpayer that benefits one wealthy expat - but I'm interested in when that becomes officially known and what the Sussex reaction will be.

Snow Commerce is the company Meghan uses to supply her As ever goods. They source the suppliers etc and use her branding.

I think they do a lot (if not all) of the NF stuff - Bridgerton, Stranger Things.

Edit to add: Snow Commerce https://share.google/qTBD1okrPyo0UBzoT

RAVEC will never comment publicly, so I think the only ones who could say would be Harry, possibly an MP if they were trying to score some kind of political points (but that would be very unlikely).

Basically it would have to come from Harry.

The thing is - he would get pretty much 24/7 armed security if he stayed at Buckingham Palace, or Sandringham or Balmoral, or most of the Royal residences, as he's been invited to whenever he's travelled to the UK. He chooses to stay in hotels.

No, that's not how it works.

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about what IPP status is or isn't. The system originated when there was a spate of kidnappings of diplomats back in the 1970s. So according to the treaty, signatory states are obliged to provide full protection to relevant individuals, and prosecute any attempted attacks against them. That's a big responsibility, so IPP status is only granted to those with accredited high level diplomatic status. Country A doesn't get to say that 'we consider this person to be a high value individual' and then countries X, Y and Z are obliged to dedicate considerable resources to protecting them. It's only for top level diplomatics. Harry does not and never has held that status.

I read somewhere that Snow commerce was an all through e commerce business and they handled everything inc fulfilment. Obviously, that costs.

Shopify doesn’t do fulfilment. So I’m guessing Megs thinks she can run things herself and not have to pay out so much?

This is going to be a disaster.

Thanks @MrsFinkelstein!

What I don't get is that Aserver don't really sell much, as in such a limited range of low quality stuff.
It's such a nothing burger.
I'm sure even Beyonce couldn't make a profit from selling jam and packet mix pancakes. It's just not a viable business.

When i watched that influencer having her cringe tea party for As Ever I thought it only made sense if M was selling the crockery shown, the linen, the cake stands, vases etc etc. A whole lifestyle vibe.

But she isn't she's just selling some jam and tea. Oh and candles I guess.

There's nothing to it.

Will she now have to find new suppliers?

Or do we think she's just going to run down old stock and quietly close?

Does fulfillment mean also sending out orders?

So she's going to source and send out orders herself now?
Sounds unlikely.

Maybe she'll turn a spare bedroom into a packing room and H can take the parcels to the post office?

But the intractable problem is that they need additional revenue streams.

Howling at that black and white photo taken from behind. It looks like Meghan is helping Harry to have a wank.

That's quite enough internet for today.

Some posts genuinely need a trigger warning, pass me the brain bleach.

I agree. Totally shit business idea.

Firstly, nobody associates Meghan with baking or cooking. It's obvious from her videos that she has no interest or aptitude.

Secondly, while there are celebrities such as Dolly Parton or Chrissy Teigen who sell pancake mixes, it's hardly their main revenue stream. Dolly is worth hundreds of millions, and Chrissy had her own modelling career and is married to an extremely wealthy man.

Thirdly, her products are so obviously white label mediocrity. She's not even trying to pretend there's any USP other than that they are associated her the Duchess herself. So beyond her dedicated but relatively small - she still only has a few million Insta followers - she's not going to get any new customers.

There's no way she's making serious money from As Ever. I'm kind of surprised she hasn't given up on it already, given her usual attention span.

Agree with this.

It was defined internationally by the UN Convention and then ratified by the UK (Internationally Protected Persons Act 1978), so not something that can just be requested.
By my reading of the definition, Harry would have qualified if representing the King or in his household on an official overseas tour, but not otherwise (section 5 of link).

It also could never have been decided by RAVEC, as it deals only with matters within the UK.

@Mylovelygreendress, I don't have the screenshot, but do have this link reporting the deletion <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/2020.01.15-033641/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7887795/Harry-Meghan-withdrew-line-website-claiming-internationally-protected-people.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Sussex IPP deletion

I think he might have got his way. He'd be giving whinging interviews if not and apparently he's coming to uk next month

Sorry, fixed link is here: Sussex IPP deletion from website

I just can’t see how they can justify spending public money on anything more than exactly the level of security needed, following an assessment. It would go down extremely badly right now imo. How can anything be better than that (in terms of safety obvs, which we know isn’t really the point from Harry’s POV).