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The royal family

PR Disasters Chapter 15

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FenellaFeldman · 31/05/2026 22:26

The saga continues

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YouputthetwatinKathleen · 05/06/2026 18:33

My2cents1975 · 05/06/2026 13:57

IMHO, L simply presents a more lucrative brand opportunity for her "momager", and she is too young to do anything other than what she is told. Look here. Sit here. Kneel here. Hold pose. Click.

L is clearly being brand positioned as "America's Princess". Not the stuffy UK royals, this is "modern" royalty with "bare feet" and "earth mother" qualities. And of course, the Diana connection. Never forget L's "blue blue blue eyes" or her "strawberry-blond" hair. Always forget L has a living grandmother who has neither blue eyes nor blonde hair.

A&L already have to deal with todger-gate. Anyone who knows anything about middle school knows how cruel kids can be to each other and H&M have provided plenty of fodder. When you add in the obviously different treatment on social media...IMHO, it will all end in tears.

Always forget L has a living grandmother who has neither blue eyes nor blonde hair.

How is this anything other than colourism, and perpetuating the sad practice of "passing for white"? Why do the Sussex fans tolerate and celebrate this? Poor Doria is not allowed to be seen in either of her grandchildren, but I fear her racial heritage will be used and weaponised to fend off any criticism that might come their way, as learned from their parents.

IcedPurple · 05/06/2026 18:35

Thedom · 05/06/2026 18:30

I think I get what Jellybelly is saying, that possibly Archie has some neurodiversities which are becoming more obvious as he gets older, hence, rather than favouritism in excluding him, they are actually protecting him.

If so, then surely they would protect him better by not posting gratuitous family photos on a near weekly basis? To repeat yet again, there is absolutely no reason for us to see these photos. Ever.

Surely the very obvious difference in the way both children are 'presented' is giving rise to such speculation which may very well be completely off the mark? Why would people who claim to be the 'most bullied person ever in the history of the universe' want to encourage this sort of discussion about their own child?

tinyspiny · 05/06/2026 18:41

Thedom · 05/06/2026 18:30

I think I get what Jellybelly is saying, that possibly Archie has some neurodiversities which are becoming more obvious as he gets older, hence, rather than favouritism in excluding him, they are actually protecting him.

Then the fair / sensible thing would be to not have pictures of either child , particularly as they are unnecessary anyway ., by doing it the way M &H are if it does turn out that he is ND it will look like they were ashamed of him .

Jellybelly80 · 05/06/2026 18:43

IcedPurple · 05/06/2026 18:12

Spell it out for me and the rest of the slow learners at the back of the class then.

I’m sorry but you seem to be having a bad day and in the nicest possible sense I think it’s better to just leave you to it and wish you a better day tomorrow.

IAmATorturedPoet · 05/06/2026 18:54

Thedom · 05/06/2026 18:30

I think I get what Jellybelly is saying, that possibly Archie has some neurodiversities which are becoming more obvious as he gets older, hence, rather than favouritism in excluding him, they are actually protecting him.

Agree with your post @tinyspiny

If (and it's a big if for me) MM was protecting Archie (for whatever reason) she shouldn't have posted a picture of the poor lad hiding behind a pillar at Disney.

The far better approach would be to not post either of the children on SM at all. She is sending out the wrong (and potentially damaging) message by posting photos in the way she is currently doing.

KilkennyCats · 05/06/2026 18:59

Jellybelly80 · 05/06/2026 18:43

I’m sorry but you seem to be having a bad day and in the nicest possible sense I think it’s better to just leave you to it and wish you a better day tomorrow.

@IcedPurple ’s posts make perfect sense to me 🤷🏻‍♀️
If you have some different theory of your own why not just present it, rather than telling other posters they’ve got it wrong and / or have missed the point?

IcedPurple · 05/06/2026 19:05

Jellybelly80 · 05/06/2026 18:43

I’m sorry but you seem to be having a bad day and in the nicest possible sense I think it’s better to just leave you to it and wish you a better day tomorrow.

I don't think I've ever seen a passive aggressive retort which produced the desired affect.

The above is no exception to that rule.

BasiliskStare · 05/06/2026 19:33

I'm not sure that the more pictures of Lily aren't any more than M thinking of her as a mini me. I don't know. I did disagree with her talking about As Ever which she could pass on to her daughter - who was 4 FFS. When my DS was born DH idly hoped he might play for a premiership football team ( not seriously ) DS never will and never would have done & he's doing all right, and of course DH never really cared , just wanted DS to be happy in what he did. I think it is very wrong to put your aspirations on to your children. In our case it was a quick jokey 3 minute chat in private about DS. MM put that out to the wider world about Lily inheriting her business. I think these things are also damaging to have hanging around the internet forever for the child. Let them be what they will be. I think H also said he's like A to take the IG mantle . Who do these people think they are? IG and As Ever might not even exist when these children are adults and for all we know they want to be marine biologists or landscape gardeners or accountants or God forbid Harry , journalists. This is another thing which makes me uncomfortable , them throwing out hints of the children's personalities when the children are so very young.

JSMill · 05/06/2026 19:49

@BasiliskStareI was quite academic and BEFORE I had my first dc, I had dreams of him doing better than me and attending a university like Harvard. However, when he actually arrived, I realised all that mattered was that he was healthy and happy. Mind you, many parents impose their aspirations on their dcs. It’s not unusual but it’s not healthy.

Ohpleeeease · 05/06/2026 20:04

MyAutumnCrow · 05/06/2026 11:33

I was up late (couldn't sleep) and was flicking through YouTube and saw a Sidley Twins 'Live' starting, so watched the first part. (NB: the twins are Nancy and Stephanie Sidley.)

A few days ago Nancy had posted a 'video short' in tears and distress, saying that her 'boyfriend' of ten years had broken up with her and she wouldn't be back for a while. There was an outpouring of sympathy for her from their YouTube followers.

Apparently it was all a ruse to try to smoke out a fellow online commenter known as 'Meghan's Mole', who had been mean to her about her and her boyfriend. (Yeah, I know ... 🙄) and to see if M Mole would make a video about it. (Something to do with whether or not the boyf of ten years is/was married or not.) Apparently M Mole did make the video. And Nancy then said the boyf's name. (I'd never heard of him - he's a minor actor.)

So last night Nancy decided to somewhat chaotically come clean. It was a car crash of an 'explanation' and 'apology'. Apparently she fooled the fans, fooled Stephanie, fooled The Whole Online Space (as the kids say), was 'having a breakdown' ... and the comments started flying and I turned it off as the twins started arguing and it was becoming more and more cringeworthy.

All this follows on from a few weeks ago where Stephanie had appeared on air being very 'out of it' and argumentative (more so that usual), apparently on medication or simply drunk (or both). A lot of their followers defended her then, and were sympathetic, which was heartening to see as that actually did look like some sort of mental crisis waiting to happen.

But taken in the round, I think the Sidley Twins have got close to drinking the well of sympathy dry, and need to have a big old rethink about their engagement styles with their 'fans'. It's bizarre, frankly, and unnerving to watch. They're way too long in the tooth for this shit. It's not critique; it's juvenile.

I agree with everything you say. I’ve been concerned about the way the Sidleys have been posting for a while. I initially followed
them because they are genuinely committed to their work supporting animal shelters. They ask donors not to tip them or give through YouTube and instead donate directly to the shelters which is laudable.

However their content has become more and more fractious and it’s uncomfortable viewing. I also think they’re in danger of revealing too much personal stuff. I hope they can take a step back and find their earlier form.

Ohpleeeease · 05/06/2026 20:23

Monty36 · 05/06/2026 16:23

Being crude about it, money, influence.
America was besotted with Diana. They will fall over themselves at some point with Lili because of it. They will with Charlotte too.

Maybe if she resembled Diana at all, but she doesn’t. Every photo confirms she’s a Markle. With the best will in the world they are not a family blessed with exceptional beauty. Not that this matters at all, every child is beautiful in their parents’ eyes and no other opinion matters, but if they’re hoping to build a following based on any resemblance with Diana, they’re on to a loser.

Starryfifty · 05/06/2026 20:24

Not2identifying · 05/06/2026 15:23

I don't know much about the Kardashians but I'm aware that Kris has a son called Rob Kardashian who appears to have not been as marketable as his sisters growing up. I think H & M need to be careful to avoid a similar trajectory in that (again, just to remind you, I don't know much about any of that family) but it must be weird for him to be the odd one out, worth much less than every other member of his family, less good looking, less famous, less...everything (that the LA people value).

I vaguely remember reading something about Rob and he made it very clear he did not want to be part of the circus

CathyorClaire · 05/06/2026 20:43

Lunde · 05/06/2026 11:56

They are wanting media outlets to proclaim Lilibet "the new Diana"

... but so far nobody has taken the bait

Possibly because Diana's relevance diminishes with each passing year.

We took our then very young dc up to see the flowers outside BP the day after the funeral. I was much less of a republican then and wanted to steep them in a bit of history. I did expect the furore to have died down a bit but it hadn't.

There were still still international news awnings and breathless reporters in abundance.

None of the dc remember any of it let alone placing her in history...

YouputthetwatinKathleen · 05/06/2026 20:48

Look at any footage of the available footage of Meghan as a child. She looks sulky and unhappy. She's projecting onto Lily the childhood image she herself would have wanted to convey to the outside world had she had the opportunity - a happy, free-spirited, care-free, archetypically sun-bleached, Californian child, adored by her mother who has enough resources not to worry her child about money. One can only hope that's Lily's reality.

CathyorClaire · 05/06/2026 21:04

Who do these people think they are? IG and As Ever might not even exist when these children are adults and for all we know they want to be marine biologists or landscape gardeners or accountants or God forbid Harry , journalists.

I so agree.

I quite like living in interesting times 😂

Rhaidimiddim · 05/06/2026 21:54

BigWillyLittleTodger · 04/06/2026 22:37

MI5 yes for serious threats and of course KC would be informed about them but that’s not what I am alluding to, I’m talking about H&M’s online cronies who hide behind their screens doing their masters dirty work, the lower level online hate campaigns, I doubt Charles is aware that Meghan sends the most prolific posters “care packages” with handwritten notes for example, that type of thing would be completely alien to him, it’s a different world and one he doesn’t personally partake in or understand to any degree I suspect, I don’t think he grasps what his son and daughter in law are capable of and the depths they will sink to in their hatred and jealousy of the Wales family.

I'm pretty sure he has advisors who keep him apprised of threats to his family at a personal level and to Monarchy. And I'm sure he has the nous to understand the technologies used, even if he doesn't use them himself.

jeffgoldblum · 05/06/2026 21:58

Jellybelly80 · 05/06/2026 18:43

I’m sorry but you seem to be having a bad day and in the nicest possible sense I think it’s better to just leave you to it and wish you a better day tomorrow.

That was rather patronising! 🙄

Rhaidimiddim · 05/06/2026 22:01

Superhansrantowindsor · 05/06/2026 07:19

The straggled hair and bare feet is deliberate. It conveys the relaxed casual lifestyle that is free from constraints of royal life. It’s deliberately the opposite of the Wales children and I’m probably reading too much into it but it feels like the children are being used as a prop in their family feud.
Her hair is beautiful. I wish they’d brush it.

Bur Archie gets short bacl and sides? I'd agree with them attempting relaxed-casual if the boy-child also had long, unkempt hair.

Rhaidimiddim · 05/06/2026 22:27

Monty36 · 05/06/2026 16:23

Being crude about it, money, influence.
America was besotted with Diana. They will fall over themselves at some point with Lili because of it. They will with Charlotte too.

I'm not so sure.

America was besotted with Michael Jackson too. Leaving aside the child sex allegations, his legacy included music, videos, fashion and dance styles that are still influential in popular culture today.

When he died, his daughter was a red-hot property. But didn't seem to have a marketable talent, and so no longer sells magazines.

Diana's granddaughter? Why would the USA be interested in the grandchild of a woman who died in the 1990s? Are they interested now?

I hope Archie becomes a scientist and cures cancer.

My2cents1975 · 05/06/2026 22:34

YouputthetwatinKathleen · 05/06/2026 18:33

Always forget L has a living grandmother who has neither blue eyes nor blonde hair.

How is this anything other than colourism, and perpetuating the sad practice of "passing for white"? Why do the Sussex fans tolerate and celebrate this? Poor Doria is not allowed to be seen in either of her grandchildren, but I fear her racial heritage will be used and weaponised to fend off any criticism that might come their way, as learned from their parents.

H&M's superfans are a few sandwiches short of a picnic on a good day so seeking any logic in their behavior...is a challenge.

I also think that the parasocial Sussex Squad's desire to laud L as the new Diana has the potential to be extremely damaging to L's development. It is highly irresponsible of H&M to expose their daughter to these rabid online fans in a cash grab from these crazed fans.

IMHO, A&L's parents need to step back from social media and place the emotional health and well-being of their children over their one-sided competition with William and Catherine.

Starryfifty · 05/06/2026 22:49

H&M always seem so behind what is popular etc. The twerking video was a popular craze years ago, for example. They genuinely believe that Diana will be a huge USP for them. He drops her name into every daft speech he gives. That's intentional

tengreencats · 05/06/2026 23:38

IcedPurple · 05/06/2026 14:47

Yes, there are other potential explanations I agree. Though I do think favouritism is the most likely.

But my point is why are we being invited to speculate? You say 'we'll know why one day'. But why should we know? Why are Archie's parents publicly sharing photos and information about their children in a way which encourages discussion about their personalities and family life? Surely that contradicts their 'stance' on the dangers social media poses to children?

There is absolutely no need for us to see photos of the Sussex children. Until a few years ago Meghan didn't even have social media. So why all these faceless photos and disembodied voices?

You are right. People will speculate. Why post that pic of Archie hiding ? It was suggested on here before that Archie has some special needs and this has been raised again.

Starryfifty · 05/06/2026 23:57

tengreencats · 05/06/2026 23:38

You are right. People will speculate. Why post that pic of Archie hiding ? It was suggested on here before that Archie has some special needs and this has been raised again.

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I really hope the poor boy doesn't have special needs because his parents are woefully ill equipped to manage it

DryTerryandJUNE · 06/06/2026 06:25

LOL

PR Disasters Chapter 15
ShamedBySiri · 06/06/2026 06:32

Hilarious. Do the newspapers just completely make this up or has someone “let it be known”??