PR Disasters Chapter 15

[FenellaFeldman]

The saga continues

I think you have. RaSP (Royalty and Specialist Protection) officers are generally armed, and they're all licensed to carry arms, and that would be from where protection officers would be assigned to Harry when he's in the UK, provided he gives the correct amount of notice. RaSP is one of the Met Police's specialist commands.

Perhaps they all just thought, as the Queen did, that Meghan would be interested, even if she'd not done that kind of acting?
Done with the best of intentions, I am sure.

And that if he brings his own security people, they can’t bring their guns with them to the UK.

Yes, so that's what he's going to court to challenge? I remember reading that when he offered to pay the cost of armed security himself he was told that the Met police officers weren't available for hire. It will be interesting to see the outcome of this case.

He never offered to pay.

And we've already seen the outcome of the case. Harry lost. Both the initial case and the appeal. It's over.

Not even carrying a box marked "Glock"
That made me laugh 🤣

Definitely this.

His 'security people' are just private citizens who happen to work as bodyguards. They have no special rights or privileges, even in America. They have to abide by gun laws in whichever state they're in, and are subject to the same restrictions as any other private citizen.

Yes, that was in New York, I think? Just … delusional.

I also have the impression that when he does his quasi-royal tours, they actually aren't nearly as well-organised or as high profile as the WRF's tours, and elements of them are pretty much on the hoof, and not wanting to share that information with the police, even though you are relying on them to protect you, because it would highlight the real difference in status?

Yes, absolutely agree regarding his attitude to legal decisions, the problem is with him is that he's got too much money and not enough to do, apart from wallowing in his bitterness and resentment towards his brother!

Oh yes indeed, but to delusional H, it’s very important that his people have guns. He said as much about it in one of his many, many interviews. (Sometimes I lose track of them!)

I’ve said before that I presume he has access to loaded weapons at home in Montecito? It’s worrying when you consider he might be off his tits at times with the children around.

Yes, I do wonder if living in America for the last few years (where there are more weapons than people) has affected his judgement 🤷

Are H&M fully paid up members of the NRA then?

Am I right in saying that he still wants IPP status ? Remember he and M issued a statement ( later withdrawn) at the time of Megxit that he would still be entitled to IPP status.

Why on earth would he need armed security? Only ones I can think of are high profile politicians and King and Queen and maybe William and C as no assume these are targets

I don't believe they ever held IPP status.

Even in Britain, as the court documents revealed, the Sussexes were not in the category of individuals deemed important enough to be granted automatic security. So why would other countries be required to provide it?

Re security - I think he resents having to give notice but also the implication that there has to be a risk assessment each time - which means he will only get the full armed ‘convoy’ type of security presence if the intelligence warrants it.

So some trips be might get the shiny black car with several armed police and some trips he might get a one bloke with a brown people carrier.

And he’s not allowed access to the intelligence to challenge their decision.

He and Meghan like the status of visible protection.

The Australian grift and the Geneva roundabout plagiarised speech, was there full armed security there?

I agree that he and Meghan want 'security' in order to 'feel important'. Thing is, royal security, though highly effective, is usually extremely discreet. Big convoys are unusual, certainly for the mere 5th in line.

And there's no way a blabbermouth fool like Harry would ever be let near any intelligence assessment!

I think Harry has fixated on 'security' as a symbol of the old life he has lost. I suspect his wife may also be using it as an excuse not to allow him to bring the children to his home country, and fool that he is he is trying to appease her.

This is one of Harry’s most lunatic interviews about security, not knowing how long his father has left, being forever royal, his life of service, you name it. Bonkers and arrogant, mad and smug. Quite the combination.

It’s only a year old.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8x8knpgnd0o

‘The Duke of Sussex has spoken exclusively to the BBC about his prospects of returning to the UK, relationship with his family and anger at losing his right to automatic full security protection when visiting from the US.

‘He made the comments after losing his latest legal challenge against the government over his security - a decision which he says has left him vulnerable to threats on his life.

‘Here are six key moments from his interview with the BBC's Nada Tawfik in California.’

A mean bit of me would quite like to view it as TLQ calling her out, ‘Oh? So you say you’re an actress? Well in that case, why not take the patronage of the National Theatre? I’m sure you’ll fit right in with your actressing credentials. Or…are you really not that much of an actress, after all?’

But TLQ would never have been like that. It was a genuine gesture, trying to make Meghan feel at home amongst actorly folk. TLQ probably didn’t know that Meghan’s acting was mostly wearing a tight top and a push up bra and doing a bit of pouting. Dame Judy Dench #2 she was not.

Exactly this.

I think it’s less the notice period and more the risk assessment - I’m sure there was some reference to occasions that he didn’t get any on hand security at all, just a liaison officer and support via the phone.

His ego can’t cope with being deemed less important or less at risk.

the whole armed security piece really is just a figleaf. It’s not the fact that security is armed that makes the biggest difference to your safety, particularly in a country where the general public cannot carry firearms. I think that’s just the convenient excuse for why his private security aren’t “good enough” for him. When they are for lots of high profile and much wealthier celebrities.

he’s a dick. I’d be fuming if his security was upgraded again.

can his security be upgraded again? What security did he use when he was in court during his court case ?

Basically the deal is - every time Harry comes over, the risk will be assessed (at our expense) and the appropriate security will be provided (at our expense). But Harry doesn’t want the appropriate level of security. (This is how we know it’s not really about whether or not he would be safe.) He wants super duper security, whether it’s needed or not, because that’s what William gets. William gets it because he is the heir to the throne. Harry’s merely appropriate security is a marker of his relative unimportance, compared to his brother. And he can’t stomach that.

Plus security costs a lot and I think initially he had hopes that if the UK signalled that he needed extra special protection, other countries might be persuaded to follow suit. He’s got no chance of that while the UK risk assesses each visit and only gives him what he needs, which most of the time will be very low key I imagine.

I also think the whole shtick about not being able to bring the children over is absolute nonsense, because the risk would be assessed and appropriate security would be provided. I think he thought losing his security was just Charles / QE2 being petty and punishing him, and that they would capitulate if he threatened never to return or bring the children over. So now he’s talked himself into depriving his children of their extended family and the opportunity to grow up with proper connections to the RF. And still no super duper security on demand. What an absolute imbecile.