PR Disasters Chapter 15

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The saga continues

Reminds me, oddly, of OJ Simpson and Nicole’s kids.

After what happened to their mother and the trial, their family kept their lives completely private and we had no idea what they looked like or had updates to how they are. Now there would have been huge interest in these kids- but their family protected them.

A few years ago, there were pics of the, now adult, daughter. A private citizen, you would have no idea who she was.

Intense media interest, is no reason why you cannot give your child a private life.

While we may not know what their faces look like, their image constantly put on SM means that there is interest in their lives and are public figures and means when they turn 18, the cameras will be there ready and waiting.

And yet Harry said he worried about the Wales DC being Spares !

Well, he's said a lot of stuff!

So Kate is also only a princess because she married William. Doesn’t that also mean she is a knock-off cheap princess by this reasoning? It seems a rather negative way to view these people.

How hard would it be to take a nice photo of Archie with his mum and dad? Didn't he get to do something he enjoyed at Disney?

I don't know much about the Kardashians but I'm aware that Kris has a son called Rob Kardashian who appears to have not been as marketable as his sisters growing up. I think H & M need to be careful to avoid a similar trajectory in that (again, just to remind you, I don't know much about any of that family) but it must be weird for him to be the odd one out, worth much less than every other member of his family, less good looking, less famous, less...everything (that the LA people value).

Another thing that strikes me as odd is that Meghan and Lilibet are in sharper focus than Harry - edges are much shaper. Is it a sign that Meghan/Lilibet's images have been "improved" but Harry's was not? - or is it a sign that Harry's image was altered or photoshopped into the photo later?

The orange under Meghan’s chin is a lot sharper than the orange on the wall so maybe M was tidying up her neck and chin?
Lilis fingers at the back of Harold’s neck look a bit photoshopped as well

I totally agree - poor Diana ended up repeating her mother's sad life

Oh, I think she enjoyed herself, too. Lots of attention, prestige, power, wealth, travel, gentlemen friends.. she was hardly locked up in a tower.

There could be 100’s of pictures in the family albums. One of Archie for every one taken of Lili. We’re just not shown them.

And what if he didn’t enjoy Disney? Not everyone who goes does, it can in fact be a very difficult/not enjoyable experience for some visitors. Perhaps he happily stayed in the room with the Nanny or Doria most of the time whilst the rest of the family got on with it.

For me they have vested a great deal in Lili to be compared to Diana.

Why would she be, though?
Diana’s other son has a daughter too. Who arrived first 🤷🏻‍♀️

I think you're missing the point.

There's no reason for us to speculate about these children at all. We shouldn't be wondering about Archie's personality or his preferences. However, his parents have invited this by the obviously different way they 'share' about him as opposed to his sister.

Surely you can see this?

Being crude about it, money, influence.
America was besotted with Diana. They will fall over themselves at some point with Lili because of it. They will with Charlotte too.

Oh, I get why H & M would want to push it. Just don’t see it really having much traction elsewhere.
It’s just another notion from this pair of utter fools.

Was besotted. 40 years ago.

As I said in a previous post, even in Britain young people barely know who Diana was. People who cared about her are all middle aged and above. Even for them, that interest doesn't extend to a granddaughter who never met her and has no connection to royal life or even to Britain.

And why wasn't he given a name beginning with K? Singled out from birth.

@DryTerryandJUNEI know practically nothing about the Kardashians but I do know their late father was a lawyer called Robert Kardashian so I guess the son was named after him.

I agree with you @IcedPurple . Diana was a bit of a one off . And yes she had loyal fans. But she was of her time. And I do think that time has gone. We've had the revisionist version. She wasn't a saint. , To be fair I do think she played a part in breaking down scaremongering about AIDS - it's hard to imagine unless you are of a generation to remember the public broadcasts on the TV with the gravestones.

I was in London at the time when people were laying flowers outside Kensington Palace. & I was nearby, I didn't live there - happened to be in the environs for other reasons , but although there were people there who clearly felt emotional , if I'm honest , there were a great deal of people who saw it as a tourist attraction. Which may sound a bit ghoulish , but that was my impression. Even then I don't think the outpouring of grief was quite as universal as it was portrayed.

It seems notable that H with his Halo vest and mask on gets much less coverage than M's jam. Unless M starts replicating Diana's favourite frocks on Lily - sparkly Elvis evening outfit ? I'm not sure most people will connect either Charlotte or Lily with Diana. M's been trying her best to cos play Diana and she's got no-where 😂

I think you’re missing my point.

Spell it out for me and the rest of the slow learners at the back of the class then.

I think Harry and Meghan seem to be obsessed with Diana - she is constantly mentioned in their speeches and at events. It's like they are trying to harness the Saint Diana bandwagon from almost 30 years ago which has long passed by.

However I think you have hit the nail on the head that there is some sort of competition (going on in the Sussexes' heads) where Meghan, in particular, is jealous of Charlotte, for some reason, which dates back to the wedding and is desperate to promote her own "Princess".

I don't really think Meghan understands that there is not going to be the same interest in UK "royalty" who never visit the UK. Their children are destined to be be the new Beatrice and Eugenie who were 5th and 6th in line when they were born.

So are you saying that they have a lot of lovely pictures of Archie but choose not to show any of them?

It seems a bit strange. Why would they want to give the impression that Archie is less favoured given the grievances of his father about sausages and bedrooms?

I think I get what Jellybelly is saying, that possibly Archie has some neurodiversities which are becoming more obvious as he gets older, hence, rather than favouritism in excluding him, they are actually protecting him.