PR Disasters Chapter 15

[FenellaFeldman]

The saga continues

I found this from googling. ‘Yahoo News’ from the US.

Tabloid media like this from the US is much more brutal about H&M than the UK press has ever been. The language is blunt, excoriating and rude about them both.

‘Tyler Perry ‘Done’ With Meghan Markle and Prince Harry After They Didn’t Pay Back $14 Million Loan’

I did see Shauna Kay say on her YT channel that it was never the British press that was really winding Harry up so tight - it was his obsession with reading comments about themselves on Twitter (X). (But you can’t sue Twitter posters for ££millions.)

Some of the sub-forums on Reddit and Quora are pretty cutting, too. I’ve no doubt that journalists read them - but UK journalists are gentle as lambs really compared to US social media and online celeb gossip platforms.

I get the impression that anyone American/Canadian who helped them out, is hugely disappointed with them.

When did the term 'clap back' start being used?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1408803/prince-harry-prince-william-king-meghan-markle-royal-family-oprah-spt

Found this after our conversation on the other thread!

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-harry-told-william-youll-3221217

And this!

They took a huge amount from TP yet kept silent when he was accused of sexual assault.

So just doing some quick calculations here (all figures based on gossip and rumour!):

Harry supposedly inherited £10m from Diana and £8m from the QM. Plus who knows what from QEII. Let's say $25m in total.
He supposedly made $23m from Spare.
Their Netflix deal must have paid them, say $20m of the advertised $80-100m
Spotify? Maybe $2m? Original contract was rumoured to be $5m.
Plus a loan of $14m from TP, not repaid.

That's $84m in six years. Even if their burn rate is $3m/year as rumoured, that's still a lot of cash swilling around.

@FenellaFeldman Let me add my thanks for the thread. 💐

I don't believe, personally, TP paid for H&M's house. H had enough money from his mother to pay for it - I think he did say at the time he got a mortgage , but maybe it suited them at the time to have more liquidity. Whether TP gave them a loan, no idea. I am not privy , and actually nor should I be, to H&M's private finances.

The one off donation to the Archewell foundation is of more interest , although because Delaware who will ever know. It does look like the donations subsequently dried up a bit. It is obvious H&M and O wanted to make it clear they (H&M) had not been paid for the interview. At least it was a huge global introduction to the things they were paid for - Netflix docuseries , Spare down the line etc. There was a great deal in it for them.

The Archewell foundation or Philanthropies is one thing in my view. Different country ,different state , different rules - & they aren't the only ones making use of them , however "dodgy" they appear on the surface. I think IG , Sentebale etc are of more interest re H's charities because they will be subject to more scrutiny. ( Well one hopes properly in the case of IG , though hands up to the Pilot )

Money earned is taxable so large chunk gone, California tax is high, I doubt H even knows what a tax return is! Tax is due on any interest paid on assets if there are any.
Loan I hope they get dragged into court for it, it will be sitting in tp/ow big fecking favour owed box, money means nothing to them but scoops like divorce interview is.
iirc harry didn't get the inheritance as a lump sum it is in trust and over seen by princess Ann, he is paid an annual annuity. Although wouldn't be surprised if they threw the money at him to get rid of him, think it was due on turning 40. Aristos tie money up to prevent the capital being fritted away.
I suspect what liquid cash/assets they had are gone. The ANL case may end up costing him millions so he will be doing paid interviews moaning to offset that. M thought she was marrying someone rich! He only had financial security within the firm.

Edited to say: imagine the tax bill on guestimate 40 million earned plus the additional 1% wealth tax on everything over 1 million

I think $3M per year is the rumoured cost of security isn’t it? So on top of that will be the mortgage, staff salaries, school fees, other living expenses, Meghan’s wardrobe, Harry’s lawsuits (I dread to think what David Sherborne’s hourly rate is), As Ever, which surely can’t be making any money. Plus apparently the inheritances are to be kept for the children 🤷‍♀️

In reality we know very little about their finances, but we can consider questions like - after announcing their grandiose plans for philanthropy and service, why would Harry be speaking at a conference for Canadian estate agents, and why would Meghan be selling selfies to Australians?

Did anyone see the latest DM find on their PR disasters?! I don’t know how to link the archive, but they’ve uncovered a video of MM when she was writing the Tig, saying that $100 candles are “obnoxious” and she only ever wants to be known for marketing things people can attain.

Absolutely hilarious! Another one to add to the ever growing list of contradictions

Selling $100 candles is obnoxious
Here, buy my $190 candle named after my kids

Between inheritance and the initial post freedom flight deals , estimates seem to put H&M's net worth between about $40 to $60m. I can't believe they have burnt through all that. If they had invested wisely then that would give some income, I am sure their accountants are all over tax breaks etc. They do seem to get a lot of the "trappings" as freebies , flights , borrowing houses, M's wardrobe etc. That said I'll bet in the future Californian excellent / chi chi schools don't come cheap and they don't seem to have a big headline income stream at the moment.* I think more than one person has written they have another 5 years before money meaningfully runs out , but how anyone knows , I don't know.

*I speak of course of their world. $1m a year income from BetterUp if he is still getting it would be pretty fucking headline news in my house 😂

Thanks for the new thread @FenellaFeldman 🙏🏻

They keep silent on a lot of sexual assaults don’t they? Tyler Perry, Africa Parks, Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, most curious……

Yes, most puzzling. Given how vocal they are on other issues.

You could probably add about £10-15 million to that total

His inheritance from Diana was worth about £10 million in 1997 (when he was 12/13) and was likely held in a trust or invested by trustees. So it would have been worth around £15-20 million by the time he "found freedom" in 2020

Also IIRC Harry received 2 payments from the Queen Mother's family trust the first at age 21 - it was said that he and William split £6 million but the share is unknown

Plus Harry received an allowance of £2-2½ million from daddy for the 6 months after megxit

Archive link to DM candle story https://archive.is/M3MRD

Thanks for the thread, @FenellaFeldman.

I think $3M per year is the rumoured cost of security isn’t it? So on top of that will be the mortgage, staff salaries, school fees, other living expenses, Meghan’s wardrobe, Harry’s lawsuits (I dread to think what David Sherborne’s hourly rate is), As Ever, which surely can’t be making any money. Plus apparently the inheritances are to be kept for the children 🤷‍♀️

I wonder how many staff they have - there must be a number of cleaners, gardeners, several nannies, maintenance, housekeeper, as well security & PR etc (and probably lots of other that i have no idea about never having owned a large house). It must have been quite a leap for them both having to run a house like this Harry having had everything organised for him and Meghan never having had this lifestyle before.

I think it’s quite easy to burn through that amount of money if you are trying to live a billionaire lifestyle on a millionaire budget, it’s just the same as some folks on here who earn excellent salaries but live beyond their means, houses with massive mortgages, private school fees, ski holidays, nannies, cleaners, they struggle to keep all the financial balls in the air despite being “wealthy”, Mr and Mrs Dumbarton are exactly the same, they can’t keep up with the set they want to run with, the Hollywood, so called elite, it must eat away at the pair of them having the run down and dated 90’s house and having to cadge loads of favours and loans off people, what a shameful position to be in when you think what was handed to them on a bejewelled velvet cushion, all for free, no wonder Harry has a face like thunder and Meghan paints on another fake “I’m so happy” smile, life in Montecito must be hell, a hell of their own making.

Slight digression but this popped up on X.
An example of true philanthropy done well.

Of course H&M are paupers compared to this lady, heiress of the largest privately held company in the USA who gave away over $200million and then some.
It just highlights what small fry H&M are and really what charlatans they are with all their complex web of financial charitable activities.

https://x.com/mrpitbull07/status/2060893030148866336?s=46

Lovely photo of the lady too. She looks like someone happy with her life and who she is.

I think it’s quite easy to burn through that amount of money if you are trying to live a billionaire lifestyle on a millionaire budget

I agree but I don't think they live a 'billionaire lifestyle' at all. The house is in a very expensive area but it clearly hasn't been redecorated for decades. Meghan mostly wears mid-range clothes which she is likely getting for free. They don't go on extravagant holidays, attend glamorous events or have a luxury holiday home. In fact I would say their life is pretty dull, and not just by comparison with their super rich neighbours in Montecito.

what a shameful position to be in when you think what was handed to them on a bejewelled velvet cushion, all for free, no wonder Harry has a face like thunder and Meghan paints on another fake “I’m so happy” smile, life in Montecito must be hell, a hell of their own making.

Harry had absolutely no idea what an amazing deal he had as 'spare'. No idea at all.

As for Meghan, in a sense she's got what she always dreamed of. But comparison is the thief of joy and being the "poor" neighbour must rankle a tad.

Have we heard anything further about the acting offers which were - allegedly- flowing in ?

Wasn't she considering offers to be a Bond Girl at some point? (cough)

Actually, I went down an Oprah rabbit hole yesterday, and there’s the alternative possibility that the Sussexes were told they need to give her the interview or she’d blackball them in Hollywood. There are some very disturbing accounts of her allegedly doing just this to stars such as Mo’Nique and Toni Braxton. The Mo’Nique story is quite horrifying, if true, and Tyler Perry is a part of her story too.

@FenellaFeldman many thanks for the new thread! The crazy just keeps on coming….!