Royals attending high profile events - business as usual or tone deaf?

[lindabysteven]

Over the past week Charles has been at London Fashion Week, Kate at the rugby and her and William at the BAFTAS. They may have attended other things, I don't know.

These are all very high profile events. the sort of thing my late mum would've described as 'glitzy' so I suppose not the less glam outings, or charity events.
In light of the fact no official statement has gone out from the BP, do you think it's appropriate they're still attending this sort of thing, or it's a bit tone deaf considering the conversations happening about the future of the monarchy, how much Charles already knew about Andrew etc?

If AMW had sex with VG aged 17 and I believe he did in 2003 he wasn't breaking UK law.

Jimmy Saville was a sexual predator that was known for decades as a perv before he died but most of his crimes weren't revealed till after his death.

Sexual offences legislation and the knowledge of what is a sexual offence has developed hugely in the last 20 years.

But still difficult to prove in many instances.

That doesn't mean that society doesn't care or that there's been a cover-up, just that it's always difficult to prove and the laws made it more so in the past.

And victims are needed to make cases, and aren't always the best sources of evidence in court.

Jimmy Saville is known internationally as a monstrous sex offender.

AMW has been stripped of his roles, titles and homes and known as benefiting from sexual exploitation.

There are no cover-ups.

We all know.

Agree with this. I wish she would, she has a model like figure and I would love to see her tailors and dressmakers adding different touches to an already worn many times outfit.

Or she could auction off her dresses she no longer wears and give the money to her favourite charity.

Haven't read the whole thread
but I would assume the RF wouldn’t want to cancel events they are invited to long ago
Of course the hosts could cancel them if they wished

And you did.

Or Perhaps people would like a
Walk of Shame with no clothes

< queue Game of Thrones >

Of course they wouldn't but there is some middle ground.

Sometimes I wonder on these threads
but in this case
it was a joke

And also because they helped pay off one of the victims using tax payers money.

Yep.

Well , people can read your posts and read mine and draw their own conclusions. can’t they ?

Op, what do you want them to do? Hide away?

Well of course I do-on general principles🤣But not specifically because of this.

Of course.

But I think it's really important to note that we're just random anonymous posters on a social media site and i'm not saying anyone should think or believe what I think or think or believe what you think.

People should do their own research and look at multiple sources from all sides and look at actual laws and evidence.

You could say drinking piss has numerous health benefits. There are lots of people supporting piss-drinking on the urine-drinking SM forums and claiming all sorts of health benefits and saying the big pharma wants to tell the public piss-drinking does nothing because they want everyone to get vaccinations and be prescribed drugs.

But I would hope they would look at the actual evidence including scientific studies which say piss drinking has no benefits at all.

Where it goes wrong is where people automaticallly assume that because it's government/establishment/royal family saying there's no health benefits to drinking piss, then there must be some sort of cover-up.

Which then applies to anything the government/establishment/royal family says. Because of the piss-drinking culture online, theyre all treated with suspicion,

Absolutely. Also when ( as a medical professional) you’ve seen the horrific physical damage inflicted by Savile on an unprotected 10 year old girl ( from a care home ) and then no action has been taken by anyone to whom you’ve reported this ( including the BBC and police ) .
When you learn many , many ,other professionals (and survivors) have been reporting that horrific creature over 50 years it is completely impossible to believe there are ‘ no cover ups ‘ . Particularly when those who’ve turned a blind eye or actively shut down investigations have been rewarded by promotion to prominent positions .

You learn that you can do nothing about it but you will always know that too many powerful people are complicit in keeping the status quo at the expense of disposable children and vulnerable adults .

A lot of hand wringing will ensue over the Epstein horrors and one or two ‘lesser ‘prominent people will be thrown to the wolves and then it’ll be business as usual .

Agree completely. My knowledge is first hand sadly and I know I’m posting in good faith so you won’t be able to persuade me ‘there are no cover ups ‘ having spent 30 years fighting to expose Savile .
I would very much encourage anyone who would like to investigate this issue to perhaps start with the website of Dr Liz Davies ( OBE ) the brave and brilliant former Islington Social Worker .

The Princess Royal continued with her visit to a prison the day her brother got arrested. They really are just continuing as usual, not everything is ‘glitzy’ . But I don’t think they should get paid time off whilst the alleged nonce is investigated. This could go on for quite some time as the police will need to pass the usual charge thresholds before anything happens. What are they supposed to do - hide?
The Queen met with Gisèle Pelicot yesterday. Something that was no doubt a long time in the works. It’s very very clear whose ‘side’ she’s on.

I posted this on another thread and a poster asked if this visit is also tone deaf ??
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15590533/Harry-Meghan-Jordan-visit-people-forced-homes-war.html

The DG of WHO, who is leading their trip, is the one who tried to make Robert Mugabe a goodwill ambassador for the UN, (yes, Robert Mugabe 🤭) he had to backtrack after international outcry. He was also criticised for how he supported China during the COVID pandemic, praising their ‘transparency’. Suggestions are that his support of Mugabe and China were quid-pro-quo for supporting his appointment as DG.

The problem the Windsors have is that they protected Andrew for years . They abused their position as head of a state to issue a statement a few years ago blackening Virginia’s name and denying all wrong doing .
Yet Epstein was first convicted in 2008.

The Windsors are acting now ( and I believe they had advance notice ) because the information is now international and they can no longer control it
So carrying on as normal looks dismissive.
Which it is.
And in my opinion, they are .

Oh but they are " private citizens " waaah but just rely on his Dad for money and the rest of us for his 24 hour protection. They have nothing to do with the RF now 😉

Does anyone know what it would cost us for 24 hour security for him and family?

And where is their apology for blackening her name? Making her to be a liar when she was anything but...thats id why its abhorrent that they say its business as usual. That is what is tone deaf about it all. Makes what Camilla does in terms of supporting victims of abuse tone deaf...they owe at the very least her family a public apology but it wont be coming. Utterly disgusting

@Jbum
Totally agree.
In 2019 BP issued this statement
It is emphatically denied that The Duke of York had any form of sexual contact or relationship with Virginia Roberts,Any claim to the contrary is false and without foundation.
At the very least they could retract this statement.

Wow I forgot about that.