Andrew - continuing his effort to end the Monarchy, part 2

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I am not the OP of the previous thread but we are nearly at 1000 posts and there's been some very good discussion on there.

Previous thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5473274-andrew-continuing-his-effort-to-end-the-monarchy

That is embarrassing since they look completely different.

Bea looks like Queen Victoria but with red hair and Eug is the spit of Andy

I notice that E and B are often infantilised . —oh they were only 21 when visiting a convicted pedophile / oh they didn’t notice the hundreds of thousand appearing in their bank account etc

While Epstein and Andrews victims are ‘young women’
The figure in the photo with Andrew leering over her looked young to me and Epstein’s victims were often teens.

We are still being propagandised .

Do we really think there will be no public backlash as a result of her deep involvement with Epstein?

She already had her Mills and Boone deal cancelled when the early revelations came out. Will any publisher touch her?

Will any publisher touch her?

She was reported to be weighing up significant offers for a tell-all interview fairly recently.
I think publishers will be be tripping over themselves to sign her.

It would take a very principled publisher to turn down SF and her memoirs if there's money to be made.

She was reported to be weighing up significant offers for a tell-all interview fairly recently.

Oprah?

She's done two Oprah interviews already

Yes I don't think any publisher will care what she writes, as long as she writes it. She could flap her gums about all of them, what they think of each other etc. The newspapers will be falling over themselves to serialise it too. It would make headlines for months, and she could go to town on the rest of them. Harry wrote 'spare and the kids still have titles.

Excellent point. 19/20/21 is not too young to know that sex trafficking is not something to be associated with. They have been given a pass for their own reprehensible acts.

The tide is changing though.

It's the if, though.

She's as cozy with JE as any of the other people we know about. And there is wide-scale side-eye and revulsion for them among the general public.

It will be interesting to see if she gets a tell-all deal, how it sells, and how they publicise it. I can't see any big names being keen to do the sofa-chat publicity interviews, and any book signing tours would be a security nightmare.

ETA but I'm not in publishing, so what do I know.

Mine was determined when she helped herself to someone else's fiance/father of their child, and yes, I know that was his choice too

The only thing that amazes me is that he's still around ...

Did KC and W not offer an aide to ensure that any of B and E’s financial dealings were above board?
They refused .

I think publishers will be be tripping over themselves to sign her

Very likely, @CathyorClaire, but then I guess the payout would depend on what she's prepared to disclose

For all the attention on Andrew/Epstein there's also the rest of them, and just as Andrew's been around for a very long time, so has she

Edited to add that, whatever a publisher was willing to pay her, it may well cost the RF even more to make sure she doesn't speak up

Maybe if there was such a person, they should have tasked them to look into all their financial affairs to make sure they were 'above board' ( Including Charles' own!)

It's true that was reported, Mylovelygreendress, but how accurately we don't know

Then again, if it was true maybe they should have accepted - given how skilled they are in covering things up they may well have been useful to the sisters

Exactly !

I think they should just rip the plaster off instead of paying even more money to shut people up and keep their secrets for them. They should just let everything come out and start again. But they would need to have an outsider come in and completely drive out all the sycophants, cut the operation to the bone and change their own behaviour so it doesn't happen again.

I was wondering the same @Puzzledandpissedoff

Nothing much to be gained and all to be lost really, being associated with those formerly known as York.

I suppose I’d be interested in hearing from Sarah how she, Eugenie and Beatrice actually met Meghan and when, and how Andrew fits into the picture; and what advice the York family members gave to H&M about leaving the UK and making money in the US.

I’d like to know how close they were, and are, how often they visit each other in the UK, the US, Portugal and other countries, and what the grifts are.

The Edo has always looked a bit too self-satisfied IMO.

I thought that was Kate and Zara who were sniggering?

And now would be the perfect opportunity.

The old order died with QE2, so any mistakes they cop to can be laid on her.

W&K can declare lessons learned, a new chapter, streamlining of titles and access in order to avoid AMW2.

Those who are left can then bugger off to their school runs and country weekends, come out for the opening of Parliament and state occasions, but otherwise leave the rest of us alone.

I think they should just rip the plaster off instead of paying even more money to shut people up and keep their secrets for them

Nice idea, @RainbowBagels, except wouldn't that depend on what the secrets were and who they concerned?

Just what we already know is bad enough, but what if there's worse to come and it involved other senior family members?

Edited to add, and speaking of Kate, @Rhaidimiddim, I'd give a lot to know what she really thinks of all this
However hideous the Windsors are, she at least gew up among what appear to be decent and relatively normal people, and I can't imagine she ever expected anything quite like this

I'm also utterly amazed that he is, too. It really seemed like he was into her for the kudos and connections. Then he'd dump her like he did his fiancée.