Andrew - continuing his effort to end the Monarchy, part 2

[AnnunciataM]

I am not the OP of the previous thread but we are nearly at 1000 posts and there's been some very good discussion on there.

Previous thread https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/5473274-andrew-continuing-his-effort-to-end-the-monarchy

That’s a view probably shared by most of upper middle classes quite honestly. They are more comfortable with ‘PLU’ ‘people like us’.

It's been discussed elsewhere that B and E were less than welcoming to Catherine - disdainful even. There was, apparently, an incident at a fashion show where they were obviously extremely reluctant to move to allow Catherine to take a seat, and their facial expressions said it all.

(My memory is hazy on the detail.)

There was also the incident at a Christmas service where it looked liked Eugenie deliberately bumped into Catherine .

There’s footage of Beatrice barging past Catherine coming out of church and smirking whilst doing so, really quite nasty. They must be very envious of her.

@AnnunciataM
Was that to do with children being invited into the Royal Box at Wimbledon ?

Yep. Who, when their parents are having a terrible time ( self inflicted yes) if they really are still close to them, chooses to spend 2 Christmases with their uncle 100 miles away? Their entire grift in the ME depends on their closeness to the RF, and being seen to still have their ear. They are the only ones of the Yorks who can still go on the infamous 'walk to church'. Bea is parading another womans child into her grift too. Her stepson is the only one who is photographed.

I'm wondering if or how they interact with Meghan.

Harry twigged early on that he would be destined to end up decoratively useless like "uncle Andrew" which is why he started the moves that ended up ultimately with him breaking from The Firm, even before Markle. He says as much in Spare

Oh yes, I'd forgotten about the church incident. Eugenie in particular does strike me as the archetypal "mean girl", but I have a feeling neither of them embrace the notion of noblesse oblige.

Either way, these days they're probably feeling/being forced to be respectful around Catherine.

Probably not for this thread, but there's discussion elsewhere about a connection between Markle and Maxwell, and by extension Epstein and AMW.

I do recall a televised RF event where Markle was shown taking her seat next AMW whilst smirking at him in what can only described as a very knowing way. AMW didn't acknowledge her at all, almost physically recoiled, glowered, and stared straight ahead.

If prior association between Markle and AMW is ever unequivocally proved, Harry's status is reduced to that of a target to facilitate even more access to the RF for Epstein.

(Edited for spelling.)

Also now Norway's Prime Minister
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yqr8eggvwo

Police in discussion with government about which documents would be 'in scope' if they proceed with a full criminal investigation - AMW as well as Mandelson
Also, police protection officer making allegations re security issues
https://archive.ph/1XwOb

That takes you to the paywall.

Archive link to B&E story: https://archive.is/mEZ0i

Try this link:

https://archive.ph/mEZ0i

It should take you to the Mail’s Uncovered: Beatrice and Eugenie's role in sordid Andrew saga. Sources tell BARBARA DAVIES why 'optics aren’t good', REAL reason they go to Middle East, their very different approaches and the fight over Pizza Express alibi

I think they're on course to lose them regardless.

The way they're behaving now coupled with ongoing revelations about them means it may even be sooner rather than later.

Meanwhile Boris Johnson, in an interview with Swedish TV, has pointed out that 'all these powerful men' visited the island and no-one has given evidence, and only one woman is in jail.

Good that a (previously) powerful man actually says what many of us are thinking.

Edit to add link (it's the Sky rolling news page: https://archive.is/XF03M)

Yep, their ‘HRH victimhood’ has worn so very thin that it’s transparent.

‘The York girls, oh I feel sorry for them’ is dead in the water as a PR spin.

It’s being recognised that they are nearly middle-aged women who have money-making grifts in the Middle East through the venal exploitation of their royal titles.

I agree.

She's undoubtedly got some scores to settle and I think she'll take the opportunity to do it and laugh all the way to the bank.

Assuming she can get there without squandering the lot on the way 😁

Sorry, just seen this and was going to post a new archive link.
Thanks @bluegreygreen and @TheAutumnCrow

Yes, even if she did get seven figures, that’s ‘only’ a £million or so. Maybe five million.

She’d wazz that away in a year on First Class Flights, 6 star hotels, super-yacht hire, private fine dining and a private chefs, a full staff including ‘global communications’ people, agents, legal advice, compulsive shopping sprees … and still be ‘homeless’ at the end of it.

Wazz that away

Brilliant. And yes that’s no doubt what will happen.

I can’t imagine what Maxwell would see in Markle in terms of bankable benefits like power and influence.

Agree.

Nauseating stuff in the article about Bea being only too aware of her 'blue blood' while Euge is less interested.

If Euge is that unbothered maybe she could show her older sis the way by dropping the princess nonsense of her own accord.

I’m embarrassed to admit that I still don’t know which is which! 😳

My opinion of Beatrice was determined by her behaviour at H and M's wedding. I can't remember if it was the preacher or the gospel choir, but she was openly sniggering.

Not good breeding on display there.

I have to think quite hard about it before posting!

Why can other countries do this, yet our government gives jobs to the likes of Mandelson and seals envoy documents so the wrongdoings of the government and civil servants aren't revealed?