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As ever, WLM, PR disasters continued

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AtIusvue · 26/11/2025 08:20

Online, people are pointing out that a very expensive cashmere jumper that Meg wore on suits, also made its way to her wardrobe

It’s been nothing but PR disasters of late.

What I have noticed which is curious - is that the UK tabloids are not running with P6 story about the dress. Just like they avoided talking about the NY car chase. They only reported on the media frenzy. But, we know Harry sent out some sort of memo not to publish photos etc. None of the UK press did. Now Meg has acknowledged the stolen dress story and released an official refute ….and none of the UK press are even reporting on that?

That’s weird. They will literally print any old Meg story to get clicks…..but not this one???

The articles on this issue are mainly American.

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MrsLeonFarrell · 01/12/2025 18:18

Mylovelygreendress · 01/12/2025 18:14

It was the clap back that did it for me when he said “ other working Royals”. Does he still not realise he is not a WR ??

I don't think he does. After all this is someone who was 40 when he talked about his 35 years of service. He clearly believes he is still a working royal because he is "working" and is a son of the King. He doesn't seem to grasp that whilst you can put those words together he has lost the status of a Senior Working Royal because he no longer works for, or represents the monarchy.

Totally off piste, the Queen is highlighting some really great charities on Instagram this week as part of the 16 days of activism against domestic abuse. For those who don't follow the Royal Family account it's worth a look.

jeffgoldblum · 01/12/2025 18:26

Indianrollerbird · 01/12/2025 18:13

Same day as WLM drops! Wonder why they moved it from its original November slot?!

I predict more charity announcements perhaps a visit?
more Meghan pr fluff possibly from people mag , pap walk , pics of the children.

Not2identifying · 01/12/2025 18:55

Apparently Kate isn't going to be at the state banquet this week which is disappointing but Camilla is usually good for some bling.

Mylovelygreendress · 01/12/2025 19:01

Not2identifying · 01/12/2025 18:55

Apparently Kate isn't going to be at the state banquet this week which is disappointing but Camilla is usually good for some bling.

Is that definite ? Can’t say I have read that anywhere.

Not2identifying · 01/12/2025 19:09

I read it on an online forum somewhere. I'm on several so can't remember where I read it. Guess we'll know in 48 hours!

MrsLeonFarrell · 01/12/2025 20:49

Back to WLM, she had to do it this week. Next week Taylor Swift releases her Eras Tour documentary series.

Thedom · 02/12/2025 07:03

A very succinct analysis of where Harry is, a 30 min ‘chat’ at a 200 quid a ticket event.

"It is hard to think of a sadder symbol of Prince Harry’s slide from global changemaker to rent-a-prince than the news that he will on Monday take the stage at a Canadian real-estate conference, a pay-to-play gathering designed to hash over Ontario housing policy and zoning permissions."

MonteShitshow · 02/12/2025 07:45

Prince Harry can share his lived experience of being in inadequate accommodation. It’s a shame Duchess Meghan couldn’t be there too, to provide her unique perspective of their house moves over the years.

RedTagAlan · 02/12/2025 07:57

MonteShitshow · 02/12/2025 07:45

Prince Harry can share his lived experience of being in inadequate accommodation. It’s a shame Duchess Meghan couldn’t be there too, to provide her unique perspective of their house moves over the years.

Yeah. Can you imagine her talk to them.

" As an ultra successful business woman who empowers women to become industry leaders, all you estate agents need to listen to what I am about to say, for I will say this only once, unless you pay me to say it again. Listen now. Would anyone like to buy a jar of my runny jam spread ? This is a one time offer now, especially for you. And do you have a mansion I can borrow ? "

:-)

Thedom · 02/12/2025 08:29

Harry could have done an Oprah, one free gift box of jam and sprinkles for everyone in the audience, with the pre requisite standing ovation and orchestrated whoops of delight.

There is a segment on the most watched morning show in Canada titled ‘Rent-a-Prince’. Main comment is that he has basically leveled himself with this gig, and will be hard for him to command any of the ultra fees for speaking gigs in N. America, despite using the RF titles, I guess he needs to follow his uncle with ME and more China gigs now, I think he has only had the one China gig so far.

IcedPurple · 02/12/2025 08:49

Thedom · 02/12/2025 08:29

Harry could have done an Oprah, one free gift box of jam and sprinkles for everyone in the audience, with the pre requisite standing ovation and orchestrated whoops of delight.

There is a segment on the most watched morning show in Canada titled ‘Rent-a-Prince’. Main comment is that he has basically leveled himself with this gig, and will be hard for him to command any of the ultra fees for speaking gigs in N. America, despite using the RF titles, I guess he needs to follow his uncle with ME and more China gigs now, I think he has only had the one China gig so far.

Yes, once you've gone from Prince of the Realm and Captain General of the Royal Marines to pay per play 'speeches' for a few Canadian property dudes, then it's hard to see how you can recover.

And £200 a seat? Ouch!

Mylovelygreendress · 02/12/2025 09:03

Thedom · 02/12/2025 07:03

A very succinct analysis of where Harry is, a 30 min ‘chat’ at a 200 quid a ticket event.

"It is hard to think of a sadder symbol of Prince Harry’s slide from global changemaker to rent-a-prince than the news that he will on Monday take the stage at a Canadian real-estate conference, a pay-to-play gathering designed to hash over Ontario housing policy and zoning permissions."

What about security ?? Is he travelling by private jet then whisked away in a convoy ? Meanwhile sniffer dogs and armed guards will be on duty ?

RedTagAlan · 02/12/2025 09:15

Thedom · 02/12/2025 08:29

Harry could have done an Oprah, one free gift box of jam and sprinkles for everyone in the audience, with the pre requisite standing ovation and orchestrated whoops of delight.

There is a segment on the most watched morning show in Canada titled ‘Rent-a-Prince’. Main comment is that he has basically leveled himself with this gig, and will be hard for him to command any of the ultra fees for speaking gigs in N. America, despite using the RF titles, I guess he needs to follow his uncle with ME and more China gigs now, I think he has only had the one China gig so far.

China? Interesting. I have an interest in China, so your post sent me off to BING to have a look. (Google is banned in China).

Nothing in State media that I can find, and that says a lot, because only state media is allowed.

He was doing a speaking gig in SH for Trip dot com, and hosted a summit for " Travalyst", a non profit he funded to promote sustainable travel.

He has his fingers in a lot of pies.

The Party in China does not really like non profits not unless they are party controlled. Checking for the website of " travalyst", it's not blocked so it's not on "the list", however, checking the about page and partners, I see Google is listed.

With Google on there as a partner, I suspect this will have been a one off. And with it not being on State media, I reckon that means the Party has no interest.

I found this story about it though, a fluff thing, and as I read through it I was like WTF when I got to the bottom. A photo of M and child doing beekeeping. I thought... what why your kidding right ?

Prince Harry Makes Surprise Trip to Shanghai and Tells Crowd a Major Lesson He’s Learned in His Life (instyle.com)

A bit more light digging, and the above mag is owned by DotDash Merideth, People inc.

Is that the same "People" that does their other PR publication stuff ?

Prince Harry Makes Surprise Trip to Shanghai and Tells Crowd a Major Lesson He’s Learned in His Life

Prince Harry made an unexpected trip to Shanghai, China on May 26, where he spoke onstage about a major lesson he's learned over the course of his life.

https://www.instyle.com/prince-harry-surprise-trip-shanghai-11741730

IcedPurple · 02/12/2025 10:32

RedTagAlan · 02/12/2025 09:15

China? Interesting. I have an interest in China, so your post sent me off to BING to have a look. (Google is banned in China).

Nothing in State media that I can find, and that says a lot, because only state media is allowed.

He was doing a speaking gig in SH for Trip dot com, and hosted a summit for " Travalyst", a non profit he funded to promote sustainable travel.

He has his fingers in a lot of pies.

The Party in China does not really like non profits not unless they are party controlled. Checking for the website of " travalyst", it's not blocked so it's not on "the list", however, checking the about page and partners, I see Google is listed.

With Google on there as a partner, I suspect this will have been a one off. And with it not being on State media, I reckon that means the Party has no interest.

I found this story about it though, a fluff thing, and as I read through it I was like WTF when I got to the bottom. A photo of M and child doing beekeeping. I thought... what why your kidding right ?

Prince Harry Makes Surprise Trip to Shanghai and Tells Crowd a Major Lesson He’s Learned in His Life (instyle.com)

A bit more light digging, and the above mag is owned by DotDash Merideth, People inc.

Is that the same "People" that does their other PR publication stuff ?

China? Interesting. I have an interest in China, so your post sent me off to BING to have a look. (Google is banned in China).

The Chinese students I work with have very little interest in the royals, even though they're studying in Britain. British royals really aren't a 'thing' in China. They have more than enough celebrities of their own to keep them busy.

RedTagAlan · 02/12/2025 11:47

IcedPurple · 02/12/2025 10:32

China? Interesting. I have an interest in China, so your post sent me off to BING to have a look. (Google is banned in China).

The Chinese students I work with have very little interest in the royals, even though they're studying in Britain. British royals really aren't a 'thing' in China. They have more than enough celebrities of their own to keep them busy.

Yup. Agree with that.

My take is a bit different.

For H to get a visa, it would have to be approved at a high level. Because high profile, and always a risk of him mentioning something sensitive.

And, given that he was in PRC on a green issue, and that it was not propagandized in state media, it does rather indicate the Party are not interested.

So no long term gig.

See what I mean ?

Not like Andrew and the Arab states.

IcedPurple · 02/12/2025 12:27

RedTagAlan · 02/12/2025 11:47

Yup. Agree with that.

My take is a bit different.

For H to get a visa, it would have to be approved at a high level. Because high profile, and always a risk of him mentioning something sensitive.

And, given that he was in PRC on a green issue, and that it was not propagandized in state media, it does rather indicate the Party are not interested.

So no long term gig.

See what I mean ?

Not like Andrew and the Arab states.

I think the reason Andrew was cultivated by elites around the world is that he was perceived to have connections with the real power makers in Britain. While Harry does not. The Chinese government will have happily given him a visa and allowed him to speak because he is perceived as 'harmless'. Just another C list celeb. They're not going to risk alienating anyone in the business or political elites in Britain by indulging him in one of his little outings.

Thedom · 02/12/2025 12:34

You do wonder though, remember when Catherine was ill.

’China, Russia and Iran are fuelling disinformation about the Princess of Wales to destabilise the nation, Whitehall sources believe...’

Lunde · 02/12/2025 13:13

Didn't Andrew have an acquaintance who turned out to be a Chinese spy? Perhaps they are trying the same with Harry - he's not that bright and will probably be flattered by the attention if they treat him as a "Prince"

CurlewKate · 02/12/2025 13:27

Lunde · 02/12/2025 13:13

Didn't Andrew have an acquaintance who turned out to be a Chinese spy? Perhaps they are trying the same with Harry - he's not that bright and will probably be flattered by the attention if they treat him as a "Prince"

He hasn’t got anything they would want, surely? Andrew had contacts.

Thedom · 02/12/2025 13:47

Unless they are looking for a bit of crap inside info on the real estate situation in Toronto 😀.

Will be interesting to see how things unfold when Harry and his fam lose their Royal titles.

TheAutumnCrow · 02/12/2025 13:57

Lunde · 02/12/2025 13:13

Didn't Andrew have an acquaintance who turned out to be a Chinese spy? Perhaps they are trying the same with Harry - he's not that bright and will probably be flattered by the attention if they treat him as a "Prince"

Yep, it all emerged around the same time as the China spy trial collapsed, the collapse happening because someone in high places mysteriously forgot to confirm in the court paperwork that China is a state hostile the UK’s interests.

Andrew walked away whistling, but did at least get all his titles, styles and honours removed to turn him into a ‘commoner’ - and presumably to make him very publicly look less interesting to foreign states.

I think Beatrice is playing a very silly game, carrying on grifting using her HRH/Princess styles. The UK isn’t that friendly with the Saudis and their associates. Thus, she looks bent.

JSMill · 02/12/2025 17:52

Thedom · 02/12/2025 13:47

Unless they are looking for a bit of crap inside info on the real estate situation in Toronto 😀.

Will be interesting to see how things unfold when Harry and his fam lose their Royal titles.

Do you really think that will happen?H and M are a pair of scunners, as we say in Scotland, but they haven’t done anything like as bad as H so won’t W look a bit vindictive if he does it?

BigWillyLittleTodger · 02/12/2025 18:10

I imagine it will be part of the bigger picture for the monarchy going forward, I doubt he will target Harry and Meghan but I think there may be a huge restructure, my prediction going forward will be only working royals with any form of title, so, Beatrice, Eugenie, James, Louise, Harry, Meghan, Archie and Lily titles removed, only George will be Prince and Charlotte and Louis’s titles to be put in abeyance until/if they become working royals, also no more Dukedoms on marriage and no becoming a Princess on marriage unless marrying the heir, only George’s first born to be titled, no titles for Charlotte and Loui’s children.

Mylovelygreendress · 02/12/2025 18:14

JSMill · 02/12/2025 17:52

Do you really think that will happen?H and M are a pair of scunners, as we say in Scotland, but they haven’t done anything like as bad as H so won’t W look a bit vindictive if he does it?

Hmm well they ( especially M ) are sailing pretty close to the wind using their titles for financial gain .

BigWillyLittleTodger · 02/12/2025 18:15

JSMill · 02/12/2025 17:52

Do you really think that will happen?H and M are a pair of scunners, as we say in Scotland, but they haven’t done anything like as bad as H so won’t W look a bit vindictive if he does it?

Plus it’s not just things they have done (too many to list) but we have to remember Harry is acting as if he is a working royal, addressing things of which he has no business to, for example

The Duke of Sussex has held talks with a First Nations chief about the Crown’s historic commitment to Canada’s indigenous people

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/02/17/prince-harry-first-nations-vancouver-canada-invictus-games/

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